South Carolina Gov. Henry McMaster will sign a bill that allows medical providers to deny care based on religious beliefs

[Harpy Eagle]

It will be unconstitutional!!

When has that ever stopped either party from trying to force their will upon others?

 

[mikegriffith1]

MYRTLE BEACH, S.C. (WBTW) — South Carolina Gov. Henry McMaster will sign a bill that allows medical providers to deny care based on religious beliefs, according to a spokesperson with the governor’s office.
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House Bill 4776, also known as the "Medical Ethics and Diversity Act," states “A medical practitioner, health care institutions, and health care payers have the right not to participate in or pay for any health care service which violates the practitioner’s or entity’s conscience.”
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"It impacts people who are trying to access a whole host and range of medications at a pharmacy, whether it is birth control pills, medications to prevent HIV, anything that a pharmacist could object to," Warbelow said in April.

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Now you see where this is going, religious beliefs are a token of heatlh ins. Without religious beliefs you don't get care if the phyician or pharmacist agrees.

Your OP title is misleading. You make it sound like the bill allows doctors to deny patients care because of the patients' religious beliefs.

Instead, all the bill does is prohibit hospitals, clinics, and local officials from forcing doctors to perform procedures that violate their religious beliefs, such as abortion and sex-change operations.

I take it you believe that doctors should be forced to do so. As usual, liberalism comes down on the side of coercion and compulsion and against liberty and freedom of choice.

What about the doctors' First Amendment rights? I guess your view is that they give up their basic constitutional rights when they become doctors. That's a rather "queer" view of the Constitution (pun intended).

 

[scruffy]

Your OP title is misleading. You make it sound like the bill allows doctors to deny patients care because of the patients' religious beliefs.

Instead, all the bill does is prohibit hospitals, clinics, and local officials from forcing doctors to perform procedures that violate their religious beliefs, such as abortion and sex-change operations.

I take it you believe that doctors should be forced to do so. As usual, liberalism comes down on the side of coercion and compulsion and against liberty and freedom of choice.

What about the doctors' First Amendment rights? I guess your view is that they give up their basic constitutional rights when they become doctors. That's a rather "queer" view of the Constitution (pun intended).

Medicine is complicated. There are elective procedures, and there are life saving procedures. As far as I know it's actually illegal for any ER in this country to turn away a patient who needs care. On the other hand there is no law preventing a doctor from opting out of plastic surgery or any other specialty.

But this is a slippery slope. You could have a bleeding patient who actually medically requires an abortion to save her life, and some doctor could refuse to perform it, which means refuse to save her life.

I don't think this is a good idea. IMO.

 

[Polishprince]

Muslim ER doc can now refuse to treat a Christian since that would be helping an infidel.

Where did you get the idea that it was against the Muslim Religion to provide medical care to non-muslims?

 

[pknopp]

Are you really this fucking stupid? Not just any doctor could do a sex change procedure, it is a highly specialized and requires training and equipment 99.9% of doctors do not have.



Hospitals do not have religious beliefs, only people do. Should a hospital or doctor be able to turn away a pregnant woman because she is not married?

Turn her away? Stone her.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Instead, all the bill does is prohibit hospitals, clinics, and local officials from forcing doctors to perform procedures that violate their religious beliefs, such as abortion and sex-change operations.

Which has never happened, ever.

Sex change operations are a very specialized procedure that 99% of doctors are not trained to do even if they wanted to. And no doctor has ever been forced to preform an abortion.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Where did you get the idea that it was against the Muslim Religion to provide medical care to non-muslims?

If Christians can somehow claim that birth control is against the Christian religion then is anything really off the table?

 

[miketx]

No , they wont and pharmacist doesn't need to give contraception or HIV meds, if they don't feel it their moral right.

You got aids?

 

[struth]

MYRTLE BEACH, S.C. (WBTW) — South Carolina Gov. Henry McMaster will sign a bill that allows medical providers to deny care based on religious beliefs, according to a spokesperson with the governor’s office.
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House Bill 4776, also known as the "Medical Ethics and Diversity Act," states “A medical practitioner, health care institutions, and health care payers have the right not to participate in or pay for any health care service which violates the practitioner’s or entity’s conscience.”
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"It impacts people who are trying to access a whole host and range of medications at a pharmacy, whether it is birth control pills, medications to prevent HIV, anything that a pharmacist could object to," Warbelow said in April.

MSN

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Now you see where this is going, religious beliefs are a token of heatlh ins. Without religious beliefs you don't get care if the phyician or pharmacist agrees.

this has nothing to do with the patients religious beliefs, but the medial providers

not sure what it is with your demafasict that make you think you can enslave people to do whatever you want them to do

 

[initforme]

No religious person is against birth control.

 

[surada]

this has nothing to do with the patients religious beliefs, but the medial providers

not sure what it is with your demafasict that make you think you can enslave people to do whatever you want them to do

The whole thing is political tripe.

 

[struth]

The whole thing is political tripe.

Actually it has been a real issue...remember when folks tried to force a baker to violate his religous beliefs? The case went all the way to the SCOTUS.....and the baker won.

Masterpiece Cakeshop v. Colorado Civil Rights Commission - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Demafasicst have a real tendency to think they can enslave people, and force them to do what they want

 

[Wild Bill Kelsoe]

it does more than that:
(1) 'Conscience' means the religious, moral, ethical, or philosophical beliefs or principles held by any medical practitioner, health care institution, or health care payer. Conscience with respect to institutional entities or corporate bodies, as opposed to individual persons, is determined by reference to that entity or body's governing documents including, but not limited to, any published religious, moral, ethical, or philosophical guidelines or directives; mission statements; constitutions; articles of incorporation; bylaws; policies; or regulations.
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it denies ins.

You people would like about water being wet...lol

 

[badger2]

Your OP title is misleading. You make it sound like the bill allows doctors to deny patients care because of the patients' religious beliefs.

Instead, all the bill does is prohibit hospitals, clinics, and local officials from forcing doctors to perform procedures that violate their religious beliefs, such as abortion and sex-change operations.

I take it you believe that doctors should be forced to do so. As usual, liberalism comes down on the side of coercion and compulsion and against liberty and freedom of choice.

What about the doctors' First Amendment rights? I guess your view is that they give up their basic constitutional rights when they become doctors. That's a rather "queer" view of the Constitution (pun intended).

The "queer" thing about it is that faith is being replaced by science worldwide, so faith has to try harder to keep its roster. Because religion itself secretes atheism and Christianity is the world's #1 religion for secreting it, the only intelligent thing to say to these protection rackets is "In Science We Trust."

The religion of homosexuality has forced monkeypox to reify the human anus as an environment. That religious practice will also not end well for heterosexuals and their children. The bill is just another "Look at Me" attempt at copulations twixt church and state, and the contradictions that Jefferson saw still hold: the scientific and medical implications of performing or not performing the required service, Cake Breath.