SOTU: Obama and Dems should be proud, despite GOP Gloom and doom bs- Best econ, UE, of any...ACA AE

[francoHFW]

Unfortunately, that's what happens, and supply siders don't seem to mind, dupe. They cut fed aid aid to states etc, and then states etc raise taxes and those hit the nonrich. Where ya been?

Where and when has this happened? Effective tax rates for the nonrich (and for everyone for that matter) have dropped. Especially in recent years.

Look up state and local rates. HIGHER for nonrich. Then think FEES.

Marginal federal tax rates are higher at the federal level than the local level. On net, people still pay a negative effective rate for individual taxes, so I'm not sure why you think state and local rates make a difference.

Poor Families Pay Double The State And Local Tax Rate As The Rich: Study

Middle- and low-income Americans are facing far higher state and local taxes than the wealthy, according to a new report assessing tax data from all 50 states. In all, the analysis by the nonpartisan Institute on Taxation and Economic Policy (ITEP) finds that the poorest 20 percent of households pay on average more than twice the effective state and local tax rate (10.9 percent) as the richest 1 percent of taxpayers (5.4 percent).
ITEP researchers say the incongruity derives from state and local governments’ reliance on sales, excise and property taxes rather than on more progressively structured income taxes that increase rates on higher earnings. They argue that the tax disconnect is helping create the largest wealth gap between the rich and middle class that has ever been recorded in American history.
“In recent years, multiple studies have revealed the growing chasm between the wealthy and everyone else,” Matt Gardner, executive director of ITEP, said. “Upside-down state tax systems didn’t cause the growing income divide, but they certainly exacerbate the problem. State policymakers shouldn’t wring their hands or ignore the problem. They should thoroughly explore and enact tax reform policies that will make their tax systems fairer.”

*Note: Look at the portion I've highlighted in bold, for your own good…

You've probably missed the point when I mentioned individual taxes. Your source points out everything, except individual taxes. Again, the poor, as well as everyone, paid lower effective individual income taxes. I don't see how you were able to confuse these simple things…

EVERYONE pays between 20-30% in all taxes and fees, a flat tax in all but name. Screws the hell out of the nonrich and leads to the 1% getting basically all the new wealth, dupe.

 

[francoHFW]

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Thanks for the GOP propaganda spam, dupe. Trump/Cruz 2016-43% for lying greedy hypocrite a-holes.

I showed you a meme about the biggest liar, biggest hypocrite asshole the world has ever seen. Trump and Cruz couldn't dream of aspiring to the corruption and assholiness of Barack Hussein Obama.

Everyone in the world but you brainwashed morons know our biggest liars are bought off GOPers and Fox Rush, Savage, Sean, Heritage, all bought and paid for by a few greedy idiot a-hole billionaires and the dupes who can't find the bs anywhere else in the world, hater dupe.

Total Pub Propaganda BS: Obama had 2 years of control, this is his policies fault lol, ACORN, Kenyan Muslim Marxist,Tides, Mosque, Death Panel, lose your doctor, huge costs, DEBT CRISIS, Obama Recession, stimulus failed, Barney Frank, Nazi Soros, Nazi socialists, Volt suqs, Iran making bomb etc etc.

 

[francoHFW]

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Thanks for the GOP propaganda spam, dupe. Trump/Cruz 2016-43% for lying greedy hypocrite a-holes.

The PDF is from the CBO; it says as such on the bottom.

At least now I know that I can't take you seriously…

Fed income taxes are now no more than payroll taxes, which hit the nonrich, just like state, local taxes and fees. Your bs about fed income taxes is the same propaganda that you dupes are strangely obsessed about. You have to look at ALL taxes and fees to make any sense, dupe.

 

[PredFan]

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Thanks for the GOP propaganda spam, dupe. Trump/Cruz 2016-43% for lying greedy hypocrite a-holes.

I showed you a meme about the biggest liar, biggest hypocrite asshole the world has ever seen. Trump and Cruz couldn't dream of aspiring to the corruption and assholiness of Barack Hussein Obama.

Everyone in the world but you brainwashed morons know our biggest liars are bought off GOPers and Fox Rush, Savage, Sean, Heritage, all bought and paid for by a few greedy idiot a-hole billionaires and the dupes who can't find the bs anywhere else in the world, hater dupe.

Total Pub Propaganda BS: Obama had 2 years of control, this is his policies fault lol, ACORN, Kenyan Muslim Marxist,Tides, Mosque, Death Panel, lose your doctor, huge costs, DEBT CRISIS, Obama Recession, stimulus failed, Barney Frank, Nazi Soros, Nazi socialists, Volt suqs, Iran making bomb etc etc.

No moron, that only exists in your alleged mind.

 

[Blackrook]

If the State of the Union is so wonderful, why did Republicans win big victories in 2012?

 

[Hedgology]

Where and when has this happened? Effective tax rates for the nonrich (and for everyone for that matter) have dropped. Especially in recent years.

Look up state and local rates. HIGHER for nonrich. Then think FEES.

Marginal federal tax rates are higher at the federal level than the local level. On net, people still pay a negative effective rate for individual taxes, so I'm not sure why you think state and local rates make a difference.

Poor Families Pay Double The State And Local Tax Rate As The Rich: Study

Middle- and low-income Americans are facing far higher state and local taxes than the wealthy, according to a new report assessing tax data from all 50 states. In all, the analysis by the nonpartisan Institute on Taxation and Economic Policy (ITEP) finds that the poorest 20 percent of households pay on average more than twice the effective state and local tax rate (10.9 percent) as the richest 1 percent of taxpayers (5.4 percent).
ITEP researchers say the incongruity derives from state and local governments’ reliance on sales, excise and property taxes rather than on more progressively structured income taxes that increase rates on higher earnings. They argue that the tax disconnect is helping create the largest wealth gap between the rich and middle class that has ever been recorded in American history.
“In recent years, multiple studies have revealed the growing chasm between the wealthy and everyone else,” Matt Gardner, executive director of ITEP, said. “Upside-down state tax systems didn’t cause the growing income divide, but they certainly exacerbate the problem. State policymakers shouldn’t wring their hands or ignore the problem. They should thoroughly explore and enact tax reform policies that will make their tax systems fairer.”

*Note: Look at the portion I've highlighted in bold, for your own good…

You've probably missed the point when I mentioned individual taxes. Your source points out everything, except individual taxes. Again, the poor, as well as everyone, paid lower effective individual income taxes. I don't see how you were able to confuse these simple things…

EVERYONE pays between 20-30% in all taxes and fees, a flat tax in all but name. Screws the hell out of the nonrich and leads to the 1% getting basically all the new wealth, dupe.

People are not levied an excise tax according to your income, (again, these are regressive taxes) so I really don't know what you expected to be different or what you expect to be done about it. Again, it's irrelevant to the point I already made: the poor pays a negative effective rate in both income taxes. Considering all the taxes the poor pays at the local level benefits themselves more than anyone else (school, transfer payments, security) makes everything we equal.

Again, I really don't understand what your point is. Are we taxing the poor so we can pay for social programs for the poor? Sure. That is what nations have always done.

 

[Deleted member 53821]

Look out ! Charts and graphs!

You forgot to mention. $1.80 gas , saving the auto industry , stopping bird flu .

That just offsets the cost of everything else....

 

[Deleted member 53821]

What Gloom and doom BS? The fact that certain groups such as blacks and hispanics still face significantly higher unemployment shows that this country is not at its maximum employment. Whenever we reach full employment the unemployment numbers for these groups usually begin to equal everyone else yet it still remains much higher. What is the explanation for that?

 

[francoHFW]

View attachment 59832

Thanks for the GOP propaganda spam, dupe. Trump/Cruz 2016-43% for lying greedy hypocrite a-holes.

I showed you a meme about the biggest liar, biggest hypocrite asshole the world has ever seen. Trump and Cruz couldn't dream of aspiring to the corruption and assholiness of Barack Hussein Obama.

Everyone in the world but you brainwashed morons know our biggest liars are bought off GOPers and Fox Rush, Savage, Sean, Heritage, all bought and paid for by a few greedy idiot a-hole billionaires and the dupes who can't find the bs anywhere else in the world, hater dupe.

Total Pub Propaganda BS: Obama had 2 years of control, this is his policies fault lol, ACORN, Kenyan Muslim Marxist,Tides, Mosque, Death Panel, lose your doctor, huge costs, DEBT CRISIS, Obama Recession, stimulus failed, Barney Frank, Nazi Soros, Nazi socialists, Volt suqs, Iran making bomb etc etc.

No moron, that only exists in your alleged mind.

ALL ridiculous lies that you believe, hater dupe.

 

[francoHFW]

Look up state and local rates. HIGHER for nonrich. Then think FEES.

Marginal federal tax rates are higher at the federal level than the local level. On net, people still pay a negative effective rate for individual taxes, so I'm not sure why you think state and local rates make a difference.

Poor Families Pay Double The State And Local Tax Rate As The Rich: Study

Middle- and low-income Americans are facing far higher state and local taxes than the wealthy, according to a new report assessing tax data from all 50 states. In all, the analysis by the nonpartisan Institute on Taxation and Economic Policy (ITEP) finds that the poorest 20 percent of households pay on average more than twice the effective state and local tax rate (10.9 percent) as the richest 1 percent of taxpayers (5.4 percent).
ITEP researchers say the incongruity derives from state and local governments’ reliance on sales, excise and property taxes rather than on more progressively structured income taxes that increase rates on higher earnings. They argue that the tax disconnect is helping create the largest wealth gap between the rich and middle class that has ever been recorded in American history.
“In recent years, multiple studies have revealed the growing chasm between the wealthy and everyone else,” Matt Gardner, executive director of ITEP, said. “Upside-down state tax systems didn’t cause the growing income divide, but they certainly exacerbate the problem. State policymakers shouldn’t wring their hands or ignore the problem. They should thoroughly explore and enact tax reform policies that will make their tax systems fairer.”

*Note: Look at the portion I've highlighted in bold, for your own good…

You've probably missed the point when I mentioned individual taxes. Your source points out everything, except individual taxes. Again, the poor, as well as everyone, paid lower effective individual income taxes. I don't see how you were able to confuse these simple things…

EVERYONE pays between 20-30% in all taxes and fees, a flat tax in all but name. Screws the hell out of the nonrich and leads to the 1% getting basically all the new wealth, dupe.

People are not levied an excise tax according to your income, (again, these are regressive taxes) so I really don't know what you expected to be different or what you expect to be done about it. Again, it's irrelevant to the point I already made: the poor pays a negative effective rate in both income taxes. Considering all the taxes the poor pays at the local level benefits themselves more than anyone else (school, transfer payments, security) makes everything we equal.

Again, I really don't understand what your point is. Are we taxing the poor so we can pay for social programs for the poor? Sure. That is what nations have always done.

Never like in our unfair Reaganist country, dupe. Only we have a flat tax system- Everyone paying 20-30% in all taxes and fees, with the 1% and giant corps making out like bandits. Duh. And thanks for the corrupt GOP world depression...

The Demise of the American Middle Class In Numbers.
Over the past 30 years the American dream has gradually disappeared. The process was slow, so most people didn’t notice. They just worked a few more hours, borrowed a little more and cut back on non-essentials. But looking at the numbers and comparing them over long time periods, it is obvious that things have changed drastically. Here are the details:
1. WORKERS PRODUCE MORE BUT THE GAINS GO TO BUSINESS.
Over the past 63 years worker productivity has grown by 2.0% per year.
But after 1980, workers received a smaller share every year. Labor’s share of income (1992 = 100%):
1950 = 101%
1960 = 105%
1970 = 105%
1980 = 105% – Reagan
1990 = 100%
2000 = 96%
2007 = 92%
A 13% drop since 1980
2. THE TOP 10% GET A LARGER SHARE.
Share of National Income going to Top 10%:
1950 = 35%
1960 = 34%
1970 = 34%
1980 = 34% – Reagan
1990 = 40%
2000 = 47%
2007 = 50%
An increase of 16% since Reagan.
3. WORKERS COMPENSATED FOR THE LOSS OF INCOME BY SPENDING THEIR SAVINGS.
The savings Rose up to Reagan and fell during and after.
1950 = 6.0%
1960 = 7.0%
1970 = 8.5%
1980 = 10.0% – Reagan
1982 = 11.2% – Peak
1990 = 7.0%
2000 = 2.0%
2006 = -1.1% (Negative = withdrawing from savings)
A 12.3% drop after Reagan.
4. WORKERS ALSO BORROWED TO MAKE UP FOR THE LOSS.
Household Debt as percentage of GDP:
1965 = 46%
1970 = 45%
1980 = 50% – Reagan
1990 = 61%
2000 = 69%
2007 = 95%
A 45% increase after 1980.
5. SO THE GAP BETWEEN THE RICHEST AND THE POOREST HAS GROWN.
Gap Between the Share of Capital Income earned by the top 1%
and the bottom 80%:
1980 = 10%
2003 = 56%
A 5.6 times increase.
6. AND THE AMERICAN DREAM IS GONE.
The Probably of Moving Up from the Bottom 40% to the Top 40%:
1945 = 12%
1958 = 6%
1990 = 3%
2000 = 2%
A 10% Decrease.
Links:
1 = ftp://ftp.bls.gov/pub/special.requests/pf/totalf1.txt
1 = https://www.clevelandfed.org/Research/PolicyDis/No7Nov04.pdf
1 = http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Zh1bveXc8rA/SuddUhLWUaI/AAAAAAAAA7M/iU2gefk317M/s1600-h/Clipboard01.jpg
2 – http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/blog/09/04/27/CongratulationstoEmmanuelSaez/
3 = http://www.demos.org/inequality/images/charts/uspersonalsaving_thumb.gif
3 = http://www.bea.gov/national/nipaweb/TableView.asp?SelectedTable=58&Freq=Qtr&FirstYear=2008&LastYear=2010
4 = http://www.prudentbear.com/index.php/household-sector-debt-of-gdp
4 = http://www.federalreserve.gov/releases/z1/current/
5/6 = http://www.businessinsider.com/15-charts-about-wealth-and-inequality-in-america-2010-4?slop=1#slideshow-start
Overview = http://www.ourfuture.org/blog-entry/2010062415/reagan-revolution-home-roost-charts

 

[Hedgology]

Never like in our unfair Reaganist country, dupe. Only we have a flat tax system- Everyone paying 20-30% in all taxes and fees, with the 1% and giant corps making out like bandits. Duh. And thanks for the corrupt GOP world depression...

We don't have a flat tax system. Studies have shown that we have the most progressive tax system in the industrialized world.

This data is from the mid-2000s, but not much has changed since then. The average OECD ratio between the share of taxes levied on the richest income earners and their share of market income is 1.11. In the United States, that ratio is as high as 1.35. No country in the industrialized world has a tax structure more progressive than the United States, despite your nonsensical claims about our system having a "flat tax,"

1. WORKERS PRODUCE MORE BUT THE GAINS GO TO BUSINESS.
Over the past 63 years worker productivity has grown by 2.0% per year.
But after 1980, workers received a smaller share every year. Labor’s share of income (1992 = 100%):
1950 = 101%
1960 = 105%
1970 = 105%
1980 = 105% – Reagan
1990 = 100%
2000 = 96%
2007 = 92%

Unit Labor Cost increased 8% since 2009. That means wages are outpacing productivity.

2. THE TOP 10% GET A LARGER SHARE.
Share of National Income going to Top 10%:
1950 = 35%
1960 = 34%
1970 = 34%
1980 = 34% – Reagan
1990 = 40%
2000 = 47%
2007 = 50%
An increase of 16% since Reagan.

Of course. Since their productivity is higher, they will naturally receive a greater share of income.

3. WORKERS COMPENSATED FOR THE LOSS OF INCOME BY SPENDING THEIR SAVINGS.
The savings Rose up to Reagan and fell during and after.
1950 = 6.0%
1960 = 7.0%
1970 = 8.5%
1980 = 10.0% – Reagan
1982 = 11.2% – Peak
1990 = 7.0%
2000 = 2.0%
2006 = -1.1% (Negative = withdrawing from savings)

If interest rates rise, people tend to save more. When they fall, they tend to save less.

That's basic economics. Notice how the savings rate coincides with interest rates…

5. SO THE GAP BETWEEN THE RICHEST AND THE POOREST HAS GROWN.
Gap Between the Share of Capital Income earned by the top 1%
and the bottom 80%:
1980 = 10%
2003 = 56%

The 1% are the most capable of reinvesting their income. Since the rich have always (historically) owned majority of stocks and bonds, it only make sense that their share of capital income.

5. SO THE GAP BETWEEN THE RICHEST AND THE POOREST HAS GROWN.
Gap Between the Share of Capital Income earned by the top 1%
and the bottom 80%:
1980 = 10%
2003 = 56%
A 5.6 times increase.

And? That doesn't tell you anything about the absolute conditions about the poor. The poor today are vastly wealthier than any point in time in our nation's history. We have so much wealth, it boggles my mind.

This is pretty much why I don't worry about income inequality.

6. AND THE AMERICAN DREAM IS GONE.
The Probably of Moving Up from the Bottom 40% to the Top 40%:
1945 = 12%
1958 = 6%
1990 = 3%
2000 = 2%
A 10% Decrease.

Unlikely. More Americans are actually moving up the income ladder. This graphic from the Financial Times illustrates this phenomenon perfectly. More middle income adults move into higher quartile distribution pools.

There are far more wealthy people today than there were 44 years ago.

Overview = http://www.ourfuture.org/blog-entry/2010062415/reagan-revolution-home-roost-charts

So this is where you get all your rhetoric from. Any more fallacies you need me to correct you on? Also, your like doesn't work, by the way. If you're going to post blatant inaccuracies, you can at least post the sources correctly.

 

[Faun]

What Gloom and doom BS? The fact that certain groups such as blacks and hispanics still face significantly higher unemployment shows that this country is not at its maximum employment. Whenever we reach full employment the unemployment numbers for these groups usually begin to equal everyone else yet it still remains much higher. What is the explanation for that?

That is simply not true. The unemployment rate among Hispanics runs about 25% higher than the overall unemployment rate; and
the unemployment rate among Blacks is no less than about 60% higher than the overall unemployment rate.

Even when the economy is booming. When overall unemployment dropped to 4.4% under Bush at the end of 2006, unemployment for Hispanics was still 14% (5.0%) higher for Hispanics and 89% (8.3%) higher for Blacks.

When overall unemployment dropped to 3.9% under Clinton in 2000, unemployment for Hispanics was still 41% (5.5%) higher for Hispanics and 80% (8.0) higher for Blacks.

When overall unemployment dropped to 5.4% at the very end of Reagan's presidency, unemployment for Hispanics was still 59% (8.6%) higher for Hispanics and 119% (11.8%) higher for Blacks.

Unemployment Rate - overall

Unemployment Rate - Hispanics

Unemployment Rate - Blacks

 

[francoHFW]

Never like in our unfair Reaganist country, dupe. Only we have a flat tax system- Everyone paying 20-30% in all taxes and fees, with the 1% and giant corps making out like bandits. Duh. And thanks for the corrupt GOP world depression...

We don't have a flat tax system. Studies have shown that we have the most progressive tax system in the industrialized world.

This data is from the mid-2000s, but not much has changed since then. The average OECD ratio between the share of taxes levied on the richest income earners and their share of market income is 1.11. In the United States, that ratio is as high as 1.35. No country in the industrialized world has a tax structure more progressive than the United States, despite your nonsensical claims about our system having a "flat tax,"

1. WORKERS PRODUCE MORE BUT THE GAINS GO TO BUSINESS.
Over the past 63 years worker productivity has grown by 2.0% per year.
But after 1980, workers received a smaller share every year. Labor’s share of income (1992 = 100%):
1950 = 101%
1960 = 105%
1970 = 105%
1980 = 105% – Reagan
1990 = 100%
2000 = 96%
2007 = 92%

Unit Labor Cost increased 8% since 2009. That means wages are outpacing productivity.

2. THE TOP 10% GET A LARGER SHARE.
Share of National Income going to Top 10%:
1950 = 35%
1960 = 34%
1970 = 34%
1980 = 34% – Reagan
1990 = 40%
2000 = 47%
2007 = 50%
An increase of 16% since Reagan.

Of course. Since their productivity is higher, they will naturally receive a greater share of income.

3. WORKERS COMPENSATED FOR THE LOSS OF INCOME BY SPENDING THEIR SAVINGS.
The savings Rose up to Reagan and fell during and after.
1950 = 6.0%
1960 = 7.0%
1970 = 8.5%
1980 = 10.0% – Reagan
1982 = 11.2% – Peak
1990 = 7.0%
2000 = 2.0%
2006 = -1.1% (Negative = withdrawing from savings)

If interest rates rise, people tend to save more. When they fall, they tend to save less.

That's basic economics. Notice how the savings rate coincides with interest rates…

5. SO THE GAP BETWEEN THE RICHEST AND THE POOREST HAS GROWN.
Gap Between the Share of Capital Income earned by the top 1%
and the bottom 80%:
1980 = 10%
2003 = 56%

The 1% are the most capable of reinvesting their income. Since the rich have always (historically) owned majority of stocks and bonds, it only make sense that their share of capital income.

5. SO THE GAP BETWEEN THE RICHEST AND THE POOREST HAS GROWN.
Gap Between the Share of Capital Income earned by the top 1%
and the bottom 80%:
1980 = 10%
2003 = 56%
A 5.6 times increase.

And? That doesn't tell you anything about the absolute conditions about the poor. The poor today are vastly wealthier than any point in time in our nation's history. We have so much wealth, it boggles my mind.

This is pretty much why I don't worry about income inequality.

6. AND THE AMERICAN DREAM IS GONE.
The Probably of Moving Up from the Bottom 40% to the Top 40%:
1945 = 12%
1958 = 6%
1990 = 3%
2000 = 2%
A 10% Decrease.

Unlikely. More Americans are actually moving up the income ladder. This graphic from the Financial Times illustrates this phenomenon perfectly. More middle income adults move into higher quartile distribution pools.

There are far more wealthy people today than there were 44 years ago.

Overview = http://www.ourfuture.org/blog-entry/2010062415/reagan-revolution-home-roost-charts

So this is where you get all your rhetoric from. Any more fallacies you need me to correct you on? Also, your like doesn't work, by the way. If you're going to post blatant inaccuracies, you can at least post the sources correctly.

When every quintile pays between 20-30% in all taxes and fees, that's FLAT, stupid.

Yup a lot more rich, and a helluva lot more poor, the biggest rich/poor gap in our history. Great job, Pubs.



"We don't have a flat tax system. Studies have shown that we have the most progressive tax system in the industrialized world."
In THEORY lol. Effective rates are what matter, not pie in the sky Pub bs, dupe.

 

[Hedgology]

When every quintile pays between 20-30% in all taxes and fees, that's FLAT, stupid.

But that isn't what's happening; not even in the slightest. I'm sorry reality and economic data doesn't agree with your distorted view of reality, but U.S. tax structure is the most progressive in the industrialized world. What that means is that statutory and marginal tax rates are levied according to income distribution.

As mentioned previous, a vast majority of poorer Americans, on net, pay no income taxes and very little indirect taxes. Wealthier Americans pay considerably more than poorer Americans. As such, our tax structure is more progressive in nature than other industrialized nations, such as France, Italy, Sweden, Denmark, etc…

Yup a lot more rich, and a helluva lot more poor, the biggest rich/poor gap in our history. Great job, Pubs.

Actually, the percentage of poor Americans have stayed relatively the same. Middle-income earners shank and higher income earners have increased. This is because middle-income Americans have moved up into higher income quintiles.

Again, the wealth gap doesn't tell you about the overall conditions of the rich and the poor.

 

[francoHFW]

Who Pays Taxes in America? | CTJReports
Reality strikes, dupe. Add fees and you've basically got a flat tax. Also notice the middle class pays more than the richest. A disgrace, dupe.

 

[Hedgology]

Who Pays Taxes in America? | CTJReports
Reality strikes, dupe. Add fees and you've basically got a flat tax. Also notice the middle class pays more than the richest. A disgrace, dupe.

You're very confused about the data you are representing…

All you're doing is adding progressive taxes with regressive taxes and stating that our tax structure is flat. That's not how it works.

 

[francoHFW]

Who Pays Taxes in America? | CTJReports
Reality strikes, dupe. Add fees and you've basically got a flat tax. Also notice the middle class pays more than the richest. A disgrace, dupe.

You're very confused about the data you are representing…

All you're doing is adding progressive taxes with regressive taxes and stating that our tax structure is flat. That's not how it works.

Idiot. Keep on fed income taxes then, dupe. You appear to be unable to think.

 

[Rustic]

Despite almost criminal obstruction and fear mongering. Solar power is up 2000%, Pot legal, Gay Marriage, much cheaper college loans, low health cost rise,. Better than 9/11 thru sheer incompetence, the stupidest wars ever, and a corrupt world depression.

 

[Hedgology]

Idiot. Keep on fed income taxes then, dupe. You appear to be unable to think.

Speak for yourself…

You're arguing that regressive taxes are unfair because they're flat and disproportionately target low-income earners when they're specially designed to be flat and target low-income earners. Does that make any sense to you?

You don't measure tax progressivity by looking at regressive taxes. They don't change when your income changes, so it doesn't make sense to consider them progressive taxes. I don't think I can find any easier ways of explaining it so you can understand.

 

[PredFan]

View attachment 59832

Thanks for the GOP propaganda spam, dupe. Trump/Cruz 2016-43% for lying greedy hypocrite a-holes.

I showed you a meme about the biggest liar, biggest hypocrite asshole the world has ever seen. Trump and Cruz couldn't dream of aspiring to the corruption and assholiness of Barack Hussein Obama.

Everyone in the world but you brainwashed morons know our biggest liars are bought off GOPers and Fox Rush, Savage, Sean, Heritage, all bought and paid for by a few greedy idiot a-hole billionaires and the dupes who can't find the bs anywhere else in the world, hater dupe.

Total Pub Propaganda BS: Obama had 2 years of control, this is his policies fault lol, ACORN, Kenyan Muslim Marxist,Tides, Mosque, Death Panel, lose your doctor, huge costs, DEBT CRISIS, Obama Recession, stimulus failed, Barney Frank, Nazi Soros, Nazi socialists, Volt suqs, Iran making bomb etc etc.

No moron, that only exists in your alleged mind.

ALL ridiculous lies that you believe, hater dupe.

That exists only in your alleged mind.