Some Of The Biggest Lies Being Spread About The Jan. 6 Insurrection

[BackAgain]

But you are ok with Trump denying the cheaters (all Democrats) the fruits of their efforts because that was the plan. The Trump plan was to disenfranchise all Biden voters,



There was no effort at cheating sufficient to overturn the election for Trump
by the Democrats in 2020 in Arizona Nevada Michigan Pennsylvania Georgia Wisconsin and New Mexico because Trump did not present any evidence on or before December 14 which is hiw you put it.

But you are retarddd. And a liar.

Gfy.

 

[BackAgain]

No you said Trump lost because he didn’t have evidence of massive voter fraud that could convince you that his BIG LIE was true.

Liar. That’s not what I said. Why do you lie all the time? Is it that you are too brainless to confront what was actually said. Or is it simply that you’re a pushy?

Beyond that I don’t respond to wall o’ words. So again, gfy.

 

[NotfooledbyW]

I have repeatedly said that I cannot form the conclusion that there was proof of sufficient voting fraud to say that the electoral votes of any state were stolen.

No you said Trump lost because he didn’t have evidence of massive voter fraud that could convince you that his BIG LIE was true.

Liar. That’s not what I said.

You said it. See our quotes above.

Did you repeatedly say that You cannot form the conclusion that there was proof of sufficient voting fraud to say that the electoral votes of any state were stolen?

Have you also said Trump lost?

If you know there was not sufficient proof of voter fraud to overturn the results then you have to know that Trump’s BIG LIE is not true.

 

[BackAgain]

You said it. See our quotes above.

Did you repeatedly say that You cannot form the conclusion that there was proof of sufficient voting fraud to say that the electoral votes of any state were stolen?

Have you also said Trump lost?

If you know there was not sufficient proof of voter fraud to overturn the results then you have to know that Trump’s BIG LIE is not true.

Not what I said. You see the quotes. This time try to comprehend the meaning of words. Or just stop lying. Either way, go fuck yourself.

 

[surada]

The events from last Jan. 6 in Washington unfolded on live television but they've since been up for debate.

Millions of Americans watched the events in Washington last Jan. 6 unfold on live television. Police officers testified to the violence and mayhem. Criminal proceedings in open court detailed what happened.

Yet the hoaxes, conspiracy theories and attempts to rewrite history persist, muddying the public’s understanding of what actually occurred during the most sustained attack on the seat of American democracy since the War of 1812.W
By excusing former President Donald Trump of responsibility, minimizing the mob’s violence and casting the rioters as martyrs, falsehoods about the insurrection aim to deflect blame for Jan. 6 while sustaining Trump’s unfounded claims about the free and fair election in 2020 that he lost.

Spread by politicians, broadcast by cable news pundits and amplified by social media, the falsehoods are a stark reminder of how many Americans may no longer trust their own institutions or their own eyes.

Several different conspiracy theories have emerged in the year since the insurrection, according to an analysis of online content by media intelligence firm Zignal Labs on behalf of The Associated Press. Unfounded claims that the rioters were members of antifa went viral first, only to be overtaken by a baseless claim blaming FBI operatives. Other theories say the rioters were peaceful and were framed for crimes that never happened.

Claim: The Rioters Weren’t Trump Supporters​

In fact, many of those who came to the Capitol on Jan. 6 have said — proudly, publicly, repeatedly — that they did so to help the then-president.

Claim: The Rioters Weren’t Violent​

Dozens of police officers were severely injured. One Capitol Police officer who was attacked and assaulted with bear spray suffered a stroke and died a day later of natural causes.

Claim: Trump Did Not Encourage The Rioters​

Trump may now want to minimize his involvement, but he spent months sounding a steadydrumbeat of conspiracy theory and grievance, urging his followers to fight to somehow return him to power.

Claim: Ashli Babbitt Was Killed By An Officer Working For Democrats​

Babbitt died after being shot in the shoulder by a lieutenant in the Capitol Police force as she and others pressed to enter the Speaker’s Lobby outside the House chamber.
Trump falsely claimed the officer was the head of security “for a certain high official, a Democrat,” and was being shielded from accountability. He also misstated where Babbitt was shot.

Claim: The Jan. 6 Suspects Are Political Prisoners And Are Being Mistreated​

No, they are not, despite some assertions from members of Congress.

While it’s true some of the suspects have complained about their time in jail, it’s wrong to argue they’re being held as political prisoners. Authorities have said the suspects in custody are being given the same access to food and medical care as any other inmate.

One of the most notorious rioters, Jacob Chansley, known as the QAnon Shaman, was given organic food in his jail cell after he complained about the food options.

Much more at the link below...

Some Of The Biggest Lies Being Spread About The Jan. 6 Insurrection

The events from last Jan. 6 in Washington unfolded on live television but they've since been up for debate.

www.huffpost.com

We all know what really happened on January 6 - so why do some people keep lying about it and spreading false conspiracy theories?

Watch NBC tonight at 8 PM.

 

[Pellinore]

It was a pretty powerful session. A good bit of video we haven't seen before, showing among other things the police very graphically being beaten senseless, and testimony from one of them, plus some of the rioters and a documentary journalist. They also showed some footage of the Oath Keepers and Proud Boys and outlined their tactics.

They didn't get very deep into Trump's role beyond some testimony from rioters that they were at the Capitol at his request, and how his "Stand back and stand by" statement ballooned extremist group recruitment numbers. I guess they're saving the bulk of that for the later sessions.

 

[miketx]

The events from last Jan. 6 in Washington unfolded on live television but they've since been up for debate.

Millions of Americans watched the events in Washington last Jan. 6 unfold on live television. Police officers testified to the violence and mayhem. Criminal proceedings in open court detailed what happened.

Yet the hoaxes, conspiracy theories and attempts to rewrite history persist, muddying the public’s understanding of what actually occurred during the most sustained attack on the seat of American democracy since the War of 1812.

By excusing former President Donald Trump of responsibility, minimizing the mob’s violence and casting the rioters as martyrs, falsehoods about the insurrection aim to deflect blame for Jan. 6 while sustaining Trump’s unfounded claims about the free and fair election in 2020 that he lost.

Spread by politicians, broadcast by cable news pundits and amplified by social media, the falsehoods are a stark reminder of how many Americans may no longer trust their own institutions or their own eyes.

Several different conspiracy theories have emerged in the year since the insurrection, according to an analysis of online content by media intelligence firm Zignal Labs on behalf of The Associated Press. Unfounded claims that the rioters were members of antifa went viral first, only to be overtaken by a baseless claim blaming FBI operatives. Other theories say the rioters were peaceful and were framed for crimes that never happened.

Claim: The Rioters Weren’t Trump Supporters​

In fact, many of those who came to the Capitol on Jan. 6 have said — proudly, publicly, repeatedly — that they did so to help the then-president.

Claim: The Rioters Weren’t Violent​

Dozens of police officers were severely injured. One Capitol Police officer who was attacked and assaulted with bear spray suffered a stroke and died a day later of natural causes.

Claim: Trump Did Not Encourage The Rioters​

Trump may now want to minimize his involvement, but he spent months sounding a steadydrumbeat of conspiracy theory and grievance, urging his followers to fight to somehow return him to power.

Claim: Ashli Babbitt Was Killed By An Officer Working For Democrats​

Babbitt died after being shot in the shoulder by a lieutenant in the Capitol Police force as she and others pressed to enter the Speaker’s Lobby outside the House chamber.
Trump falsely claimed the officer was the head of security “for a certain high official, a Democrat,” and was being shielded from accountability. He also misstated where Babbitt was shot.

Claim: The Jan. 6 Suspects Are Political Prisoners And Are Being Mistreated​

No, they are not, despite some assertions from members of Congress.

While it’s true some of the suspects have complained about their time in jail, it’s wrong to argue they’re being held as political prisoners. Authorities have said the suspects in custody are being given the same access to food and medical care as any other inmate.

One of the most notorious rioters, Jacob Chansley, known as the QAnon Shaman, was given organic food in his jail cell after he complained about the food options.

Much more at the link below...

Some Of The Biggest Lies Being Spread About The Jan. 6 Insurrection

The events from last Jan. 6 in Washington unfolded on live television but they've since been up for debate.

www.huffpost.com

We all know what really happened on January 6 - so why do some people keep lying about it and spreading false conspiracy theories?

The biggest lies are being spread by America haters like you.

 

[miketx]

Watch NBC tonight at 8 PM.

What, you gonna torch a grocery store?

 

[sealybobo]

There's video evidence.

That's not what Rudy said. He said they had lots of theories but no evidence.

 

[mudwhistle]

That's not what Rudy said. He said they had lots of theories but no evidence.

No.....he had sworn statements from a bunch of witnesses.

 

[Lesh]

No.....he had sworn statements from a bunch of witnesses.

Arizona House Speaker Rusty Bowers (R) on Tuesday said he repeatedly pressed Rudy Giuliani for proof of his claims of election fraud after the 2020 election, but added that Giuliani failed to produce any.

“My recollection, he said, ‘We’ve got lots of theories, we just don’t have the evidence,’” Bowers told the House select committee investigating the Jan. 6, 2021, Capitol attack at Tuesday’s hearing.

 

[sealybobo]

No.....he had sworn statements from a bunch of witnesses.

Those bullshit affidavits? They claimed foul play even though there was none. Perhaps the RNC planted them to fill out those sworn affidavits?

And they were BULLSHIT! I'll give you one example. One right wing poll watcher thought it was odd that Biden was getting so many of the oversea/military votes. Is that evidence of wrong doing?

Just because you dumb Republicans think the military votes Republican, doesn't make it a fact. I always knew the grunts/privates were probably Democrats. And there are a lot more of them than generals.

Hell, even the Generals wanted trump out. They didn't go along with his coup.

 

[Lesh]

I'll give you one example. One right wing poll watcher thought it was odd that Biden was getting so many of the oversea/military votes. Is that evidence of wrong doing?

And he put that in a sworn affidavit

 

[mudwhistle]

Arizona House Speaker Rusty Bowers (R) on Tuesday said he repeatedly pressed Rudy Giuliani for proof of his claims of election fraud after the 2020 election, but added that Giuliani failed to produce any.

“My recollection, he said, ‘We’ve got lots of theories, we just don’t have the evidence,’” Bowers told the House select committee investigating the Jan. 6, 2021, Capitol attack at Tuesday’s hearing.

Rusty lost....because he's a back-stabbing traitor.
He lost his re-election bid.

Jan. 6 witness Rusty Bowers loses to Trump-backed challenger in Arizona

Arizona House Speaker Rusty Bowers (R), who offered dramatic public testimony to the House Jan. 6 select committee about his resistance to the pressure campaign on state officials waged by former P…

thehill.com

 

[sealybobo]

And he put that in a sworn affidavit

While no hard evidence has been discovered to support widespread voter fraud claims in the 2020 election, plenty of people have signed their name to sworn testimony.

Since the November election was called for Joe Biden, President Trump and his legal team have been filing countless lawsuits alleging wild scenarios of voter fraud and corruption -- basically using sworn affidavits as their main source of evidence. Trump’s lawyer Rudy Giuliani has targeted Detroit in recent weeks, despite there being no evidence of fraud in the city.

In most cases, including here in Michigan, lawsuits built around these affidavits have been roundly dismissed. In November, Wayne County Judge Timothy Kenny said plaintiffs’ interpretation of events at TCF Center in Detroit were “incorrect and not credible,” in response to a lawsuit aimed at delaying certification.

An earlier lawsuit was dismissed by Michigan Court of Claims Judge Cynthia Stephens who said the claims presented were hearsay. Countless other lawsuits around the country have been dismissed for similar reasons.

So what does it all mean? Are sworn affidavits strong evidence in this case? Are people at risk of being charged with a crime, if caught lying? How does a judge decide if a person’s sworn testimony is credible or not? We asked a lawyer.

What’s the deal with these affidavits?​

By definition, an affidavit is “a sworn statement in writing made under oath or on affirmation before a person authorized to do so under the law.” But as Detroit attorney David Ayyash says -- that doesn’t mean they are accurate.

Ayyash says a judge or jury may decide based on any corroborating evidence or the credibility of the witnesses. If there is none, which has been the case in Trump election lawsuits, the “finder of fact” could rule that there’s insufficient evidence to prove the plaintiffs’ claims.

One reason an affidavit may be inadmissible is due to the inclusion of hearsay. Many of the affiants in Trump lawsuits submitted affidavits alleging they heard someone say there was fraud, but didn’t have a first-hand account. In most cases, with some exceptions of course, hearsay is not admissible in court.

What happens if a person lies in an affidavit?​

Lying in an affidavit is a violation of law and a person who is caught lying could face perjury charges. But it’s a bit more complicated.

Affidavits that contain vague or second-hand accounts may be hard to prove as false. There are also many scenarios where a witness just misunderstands the situation or is mistaken in what they believe they heard or saw.

For instance, in the Trump vs. Wayne County case cited above, Judge Kenny wrote in his ruling, “Plaintiffs’ affiants did not have full understanding of TCF absent ballot tabulation.” He said if plaintiffs’ affiants would have participated in pre-election training sessions, they would have had a better understanding of the process. Many claims could be easily explained by election officials.

So technically - yes - if a person signs an affidavit with false information, they could be charged with perjury. But proving the person willfully lied can prove to be quite difficult in many cases.

And they can believe they saw something but they saw NOTHING.

 

[sealybobo]

Rusty lost....because he's a back-stabbing traitor.
He lost his re-election bid.

Jan. 6 witness Rusty Bowers loses to Trump-backed challenger in Arizona

Arizona House Speaker Rusty Bowers (R), who offered dramatic public testimony to the House Jan. 6 select committee about his resistance to the pressure campaign on state officials waged by former P…

thehill.com

Democrats have been helping Trump Republicans win their primaries because we believe they will be easier to beat.

Meijer warns Democrats that boosting Trump-backed candidates could backfire

Meijer was one of the 10 House Republicans who voted to impeach former President Donald Trump last year.

www.cbsnews.com

 

[mudwhistle]

Those bullshit affidavits? They claimed foul play even though there was none. Perhaps the RNC planted them to fill out those sworn affidavits?

And they were BULLSHIT! I'll give you one example. One right wing poll watcher thought it was odd that Biden was getting so many of the oversea/military votes. Is that evidence of wrong doing?

Just because you dumb Republicans think the military votes Republican, doesn't make it a fact. I always knew the grunts/privates were probably Democrats. And there are a lot more of them than generals.

Hell, even the Generals wanted trump out. They didn't go along with his coup.

Yep......they were bullshit because you think that there was no funny stuff going on in that election
Well, this is the first time in US History that there was zero election fraud.....and anyone who dared to mention it was threatened with lawsuits and arrest.

Sure sounds to me like something went on. Why are they trying to keep election fraud so quiet?

Democrats have protested every single election they lost in the last 30 +years in the same manner...yet this time is the only time they used the FBI to kick down protester's doors over it.

 

[Faun]

No.....he had sworn statements from a bunch of witnesses.

Like from her, right?

 

[Stann]

No.....he had sworn statements from a bunch of witnesses.

If he had that and if they were truthful;, it would only further incriminate him and trump

 

[bripat9643]

If he had that and if they were truthful;, it would only further incriminate him and trump

"incriminate" him for doing what?