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Down to quoting yourself, and then answering your quote of yourself PF?
Rather pitiful don't you think? Or are you so deluded that you don't see how desperate this shows you?
It is hard to quote marc. These is no substance.
I put forward that by the very nature of your ability to quote your own blather and respond to your quotes takes you out of any sphere you could attempt to deflect onto Marc.
All of my cousins have served in the Israeli army. I lost one at 19. One of my cousins accidentally drove a tank into an Arab woman's home, and she and her baby were terrified. Anyway, they were all leaders of men. My uncles served in the wars. Their solution for the problem is a demilitarized Palestine on the West Bank. (There was never a U.S.A. before 1776.)
Marc, what is your solution to the problem? We know who the Arabs are, and we know Mohammed was a pedophile. But what is your solution? Annexation? Should the Arabs on the West Bank be made citizens of Israel? Pretend you are Netanyahu and give an intelligent answer. Not a "shit-for-brains" type of thing. BTW, Ropey, who served in the wars, said Jerusalem should be negogiated. I would not go that far. What do you think? About the future, not the past.
". . . accidentally drove a tank into an Arab woman's home"
And you wonder why there's hatred.
It is hard to quote marc. These is no substance.
I put forward that by the very nature of your ability to quote your own blather and respond to your quotes takes you out of any sphere you could attempt to deflect onto Marc.
marc only throws stone, calls names, and posts the same propaganda over, and over, and over again. His job is to bury all issues in a cloud of smoke.
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zjxm3OSy4EE[/ame]Allah, oh our Lord, vanquish Your enemies, enemies of the religion [Islam] in all places.
Allah, strike the Jews and their sympathizers,
the Christians and their supporters,
the Communists and their adherents.
Allah, count them and kill them to the last one, and don't leave even one
The only solution is by sending the Zionists back where they came from, and keeping the jews that were living side by side with Arabs for thousands of years without any trouble.
That would be a workable solution. However, there are a lot of good Jews in Israel. Many did not go to Palestine to take it over, they were just looking for a better life and got caught up in the Zionists criminal scheme.
And, of course, the indigenous Jews (who were opposed to the takeover) have every right to live in their homeland as you say.
A solution implies that the people involved will buy into it.
Ergo I can only conclude that there is no solution at present.
This squabbling battle between two semetic tribes is really not my business EXCEPT that my government keeps insinuating itself into their family squabble.
When enough Jews and Palestinians have had it with their respective asshat governments THEN possibly (assuming the rest of the world butts the fuck out) there may be peace in that land.
Not until then.
The only solution is by sending the Zionists back where they came from, and keeping the jews that were living side by side with Arabs for thousands of years without any trouble.
That would be a workable solution. However, there are a lot of good Jews in Israel. Many did not go to Palestine to take it over, they were just looking for a better life and got caught up in the Zionists criminal scheme.
And, of course, the indigenous Jews (who were opposed to the takeover) have every right to live in their homeland as you say.
"Better life" usually means economic opportunities. My mother's family went to Israel after WW2, because they were literally driven out of Europe and had nowhere else to go. They applied for immigration visas to the United States, but were denied entry. How I ended up being born in America is too long a story to get into right now.
The only solution is by sending the Zionists back where they came from, and keeping the jews that were living side by side with Arabs for thousands of years without any trouble.
That would be a workable solution. However, there are a lot of good Jews in Israel. Many did not go to Palestine to take it over, they were just looking for a better life and got caught up in the Zionists criminal scheme.
And, of course, the indigenous Jews (who were opposed to the takeover) have every right to live in their homeland as you say.
"Better life" usually means economic opportunities. My mother's family went to Israel after WW2, because they were literally driven out of Europe and had nowhere else to go. They applied for immigration visas to the United States, but were denied entry. How I ended up being born in America is too long a story to get into right now.
That would be a workable solution. However, there are a lot of good Jews in Israel. Many did not go to Palestine to take it over, they were just looking for a better life and got caught up in the Zionists criminal scheme.
And, of course, the indigenous Jews (who were opposed to the takeover) have every right to live in their homeland as you say.
"Better life" usually means economic opportunities. My mother's family went to Israel after WW2, because they were literally driven out of Europe and had nowhere else to go. They applied for immigration visas to the United States, but were denied entry. How I ended up being born in America is too long a story to get into right now.
I used the term "better life" in a generic sense. I do not mean to diminish the plight of the Jews.
It seems that all of a sudden, Jews were being kicked out of Europe, Jews were being kicked out of Arab countries, the US had very limited immigration...
At the same time the Zionists were importing all the Jews they could find to create their Jewish state.
Is this merely a coincidence?
The Arab population shows a remarkable increase since 1920, and it has had some share in the increased prosperity of Palestine. Many Arab landowners have benefited from the sale of land and the profitable investment of the purchase money. The fellaheen are better off on the whole than they were in 1920. This Arab progress has been partly due to the import of Jewish capital into Palestine and other factors associated with the growth of the National Home. In particular, the Arabs have benefited from social services which could not have been provided on the existing scale without the revenue obtained from the Jews.
The shortage of land is due less to purchase by Jews than to the increase in the Arab population. The Arab claims that the Jews have obtained too large a proportion of good land cannot be maintained. Much of the land now carrying orange groves was sand dunes or swamps and uncultivated when it was bought [by Jews].
[ame=http://www.amazon.com/Israel-History-Martin-Gilbert/dp/0688123635/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1293491489&sr=1-1]Amazon.com: Israel: A History (9780688123635): Martin Gilbert: Books[/ame]So far from being persecuted, the Arabs have crowded into the country and multiplied till their population has increased more than even all world Jewry could lift up the Jewish population.
Jews are the indigenous population of "Palestine" dating back 4000 years.
Jews are the indigenous population of "Palestine" dating back 4000 years.
I never said they weren't.
Because, you learned it from me, dunce.
Because, you learned it from me, dunce.
That has been my position since before you raised your empty little head.
You only position is flat on your bed, polishing your knob.
That would be a workable solution. However, there are a lot of good Jews in Israel. Many did not go to Palestine to take it over, they were just looking for a better life and got caught up in the Zionists criminal scheme.
And, of course, the indigenous Jews (who were opposed to the takeover) have every right to live in their homeland as you say.
"Better life" usually means economic opportunities. My mother's family went to Israel after WW2, because they were literally driven out of Europe and had nowhere else to go. They applied for immigration visas to the United States, but were denied entry. How I ended up being born in America is too long a story to get into right now.
I used the term "better life" in a generic sense. I do not mean to diminish the plight of the Jews.
It seems that all of a sudden, Jews were being kicked out of Europe, Jews were being kicked out of Arab countries, the US had very limited immigration...
At the same time the Zionists were importing all the Jews they could find to create their Jewish state.
Is this merely a coincidence?
Well, honest history tells us that, one country came into being, while the other one didn't, because the very people it was intended for, dissed the whole idea and have been wasting their time on destroying the first one ever since. Thus a proper deconstruction of that arab agitprop garbage shows that, any joo, who refuses to put his/her life and property at the "mercy" of arabs, is an "evil zionist".That would be a workable solution. However, there are a lot of good Jews in Israel. Many did not go to Palestine to take it over, they were just looking for a better life and got caught up in the Zionists criminal scheme. And, of course, the indigenous Jews (who were opposed to the takeover) have every right to live in their homeland as you say.
Well, honest history tells us that, one country came into being, while the other one didn't, because the very people it was intended for, dissed the whole idea and have been wasting their time on destroying the first one ever since. Thus a proper deconstruction of that arab agitprop garbage shows that, any joo, who refuses to put his/her life and property at the "mercy" of arabs, is an "evil zionist".That would be a workable solution. However, there are a lot of good Jews in Israel. Many did not go to Palestine to take it over, they were just looking for a better life and got caught up in the Zionists criminal scheme. And, of course, the indigenous Jews (who were opposed to the takeover) have every right to live in their homeland as you say.
Well, honest history tells us that, one country came into being, while the other one didn't, because the very people it was intended for, dissed the whole idea and have been wasting their time on destroying the first one ever since. Thus a proper deconstruction of that arab agitprop garbage shows that, any joo, who refuses to put his/her life and property at the "mercy" of arabs, is an "evil zionist".That would be a workable solution. However, there are a lot of good Jews in Israel. Many did not go to Palestine to take it over, they were just looking for a better life and got caught up in the Zionists criminal scheme. And, of course, the indigenous Jews (who were opposed to the takeover) have every right to live in their homeland as you say.
That us a very small and misleading par of the story.