Solar panels and sheep

[ding]

Exactly. It doesn't heat the planet by striking the surface.
It heats the planet in different ways.

Visible light that is not converted into electricity strikes the surface of the planet and produces heat.

If you want to discuss waste heat then you are going to have to say that you believe that 100% of the electricity that is used (including electricity that was used to perform work), heats the surface of planet just like sunlight striking the surface of the planet.

Because until you say that, there is nothing for me to argue against.

 

[ding]

First, do the math on how much of your household electricity usage results in heat.

Let's start at the planetary level.

 

[elektra]

Which is why visible light being converted into electricity can't also strike the surface of the planet and heat the surface of the planet.

You posted a summary of a study that states the surface scatters the light wheras solar panels absorb and release that energy back into the atmosphere.

Ding-a-ling you scientific copy/paste states the opposite of what you claim

Ding-a-ling you are failing to explain why you think the opposite of your own copy/paste

 

[ding]

You posted a summary of a study that states the surface scatters the light wheras solar panels absorb and release that energy back into the atmosphere.

Ding-a-ling you scientific copy/paste states the opposite of what you claim

Ding-a-ling you are failing to explain why you think the opposite of your own copy/paste

Based on satellite remote sensing data, our assessment of 116 SF around the world provided new observational evidence for the impacts of SF on albedo, vegetation, and land surface temperature. Our results revealed significant land surface cooling, especially during the daytime, and a mostly negative impact on albedo and vegetation.

Ouch that's got to hurt. The first study investigated 6 solar farms, this study investigated 116 solar farms.

 

[ding]

Lowering the albedo of the planet is a sure way to cause an ice age.

DURR

A global study analyzing 116 solar farms says otherwise.

Besides you already conceded this point. Woot!!!

 

[elektra]

This conversion process removes some of the energy that would have otherwise been absorbed by the land surface and dissipated as heat. This removal of energy from the immediate environment leads to a cooling effect.

What this paragraph does not explain is most of the light stricking the surface of the earth is never absorbed. Light is reflected and scattered by the surface of the earth

A solar panel absorbs much more and scatters much less light.

Thus a heating effect.

 

[ding]

What this paragraph does not explain is most of the light stricking the surface of the earth is never absorbed. Light is reflected and scattered by the surface of the earth

A solar panel absorbs much more and scatters much less light.

Thus a heating effect.

A global study analyzing 116 solar farms says otherwise.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Visible light that is not converted into electricity strikes the surface of the planet and produces heat.

If you want to discuss waste heat then you are going to have to say that you believe that 100% of the electricity that is used (including electricity that was used to perform work), heats the surface of planet just like sunlight striking the surface of the planet.

Because until you say that, there is nothing for me to argue against.

Visible light that is not converted into electricity strikes the surface of the planet and produces heat.

Yes. Also, visible light that is converted into electricity also produces heat.

If you can show that less than 100% of the electricity that is used (including electricity that was used to perform work), heats the planet, there is a tiny chance your claim isn't totally retarded.

What's the number? 99%? 98%?

I can't wait to see your work.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Let's start at the planetary level.

Let's start with all the electricity that cooled the solar farm and then entered your home, a second later.

 

[ding]

Visible light that is not converted into electricity strikes the surface of the planet and produces heat.

Yes. Also, visible light that is converted into electricity also produces heat.

If you can show that less than 100% of the electricity that is used (including electricity that was used to perform work), heats the planet, there is a tiny chance your claim isn't totally retarded.

What's the number? 99%? 98%?

I can't wait to see your work.

If you want to discuss waste heat then you are going to have to say that you believe that 100% of the electricity that is used (including electricity that was used to perform work), heats the surface of planet just like sunlight striking the surface of the planet.

Because until you say that, there is nothing for me to argue against.

 

[ding]

Let's start with all the electricity that cooled the solar farm and then entered your home, a second later.

No, let's start with how much electricity the world uses and go from there. That's such an easy number to get. Why are you so afraid of it?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

A global study analyzing 116 solar farms says otherwise.

Besides you already conceded this point. Woot!!!

I concede that a slight cooling at the solar farm results in a larger heating when the electricity is used.

I've never denied that moving energy from place to place cools the source and warms the destination.

Like my freezer.

 

[elektra]

Based on satellite remote sensing data, our assessment of 116 SF around the world provided new observational evidence for the impacts of SF on albedo, vegetation, and land surface temperature. Our results revealed significant land surface cooling, especially during the daytime, and a mostly negative impact on albedo and vegetation.

Ouch that's got to hurt. The first study investigated 6 solar farms, this study investigated 116 solar farms.

What hurts is you are linking to an article that co2 is warming the planet.

Ding-a-ling believes co2 is warming the earth and that solar panels prevent warming.

From Ding-a-ling's, link
The development of solar energy serves as a key solution for energy transition to reduce carbon emissions and to address global warming

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

If you want to discuss waste heat then you are going to have to say that you believe that 100% of the electricity that is used (including electricity that was used to perform work), heats the surface of planet just like sunlight striking the surface of the planet.

Because until you say that, there is nothing for me to argue against.

If you don't understand that most electricity ends up as waste heat,
you may as well be abu.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

No, let's start with how much electricity the world uses and go from there. That's such an easy number to get. Why are you so afraid of it?

If you feel world electricity use allows a lower albedo planet to magically
be cooler, I can't stop you from posting your evidence.

 

[elektra]

Ouch that's got to hurt. The first study investigated 6 solar farms, this study investigated 116 solar farms.

The first study never mentioned studies and stated solar farms heat the earth, not cool the earth.

This new study says the same. A quote from Ding-a-ling's link

California showed that the SF increased daytime air temperature up to 3 K and became a heat island [20]

 

[elektra]

Based on satellite remote sensing data, our assessment of 116 SF around the world provided new observational evidence for the impacts of SF on albedo, vegetation, and land surface temperature. Our results revealed significant land surface cooling, especially during the daytime, and a mostly negative impact on albedo and vegetation.

Ouch that's got to hurt. The first study investigated 6 solar farms, this study investigated 116 solar farms.

Ding-a-ling. Your link says solar farms adversely effect? That is not good, right?

It has been reported that the construction of SFs in California led to vegetation destruction and intensified desertification [27]. This is because a large
natural land area was converted to harvest solar energy, which adversely affected natural ecosystems and biodiversity, especially in protected areas

 

[ding]

I concede that a slight cooling at the solar farm results in a larger heating when the electricity is used.

I've never denied that moving energy from place to place cools the source and warms the destination.

Like my freezer.

Because any solar radiation that is converted into electricity is solar radiation that does not warm the surface of the planet. Brilliant.

Slight cooling? I think the finding of the study was....

Based on satellite remote sensing data, our assessment of 116 SF around the world provided new observational evidence for the impacts of SF on albedo, vegetation, and land surface temperature. Our results revealed significant land surface cooling, especially during the daytime, and a mostly negative impact on albedo and vegetation.

 

[ding]

Ding-a-ling. Your link says solar farms adversely effect? That is not good, right?

It has been reported that the construction of SFs in California led to vegetation destruction and intensified desertification [27]. This is because a large
natural land area was converted to harvest solar energy, which adversely affected natural ecosystems and biodiversity, especially in protected areas

Widespread use of solar is a horrible idea. I can't think of a better way to usher in the next glacial period other than blocking the sun from warming the surface of the planet.

 

[ding]

The first study never mentioned studies and stated solar farms heat the earth, not cool the earth.

This new study says the same. A quote from Ding-a-ling's link

California showed that the SF increased daytime air temperature up to 3 K and became a heat island [20]

Do I need to repeat the finding of the study again?

Based on satellite remote sensing data, our assessment of 116 SF around the world provided new observational evidence for the impacts of SF on albedo, vegetation, and land surface temperature. Our results revealed significant land surface cooling, especially during the daytime, and a mostly negative impact on albedo and vegetation.