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I still don't get the logic behind shaming "fence sitters". If we were all "fence sitters" we'd have a lot better government.
I think we'd have a better government with a more non-biased MSM who is less motivated by money than they are honesty. We ween what all the Presidents went through, their family, even children at times. Who wants to subject themselves and their loved ones to all that in order to win a government job?
I thought you were a capitalist? Why would a capitalist think that the MSM should not be motivated by money? Isn't the free market sacred to you?
Or is your idea of capitalism a free market for a select few, while the rest are supposed to be good little slaves that only exist to serve you?
But I do agree - anyone that WANTS to be President has to be CRAZY and should be automatically barred from the position (Catch 22).
The Presidency should be filled by conscripture only.
They can still make money without lying to the people or exaggerating stories. It seems that politics has seeped into every nook and cranny in our society today including the press. Years ago before cable television, the media did lean left, but they didn't lie about the right either. They didn't tell only part of the story, they also told the part of the story that explained the Republicans position.
Today the MSM is more or less to brainwash people. You can read the results in USMB. We have leftists out here blaiming a Republican President for Democrats destroying Democrat cities, all because of what a cop in another Democrat city did to a black guy. Nobody with an ounce of common sense can come to that conclusion. It's brainwashing that does it.
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So what you're saying is that businesses should have restrictions that ensure that they don't violate the public interest...correct?
"Freedom of the Press is for those who own one"
I didn't say that either. Just pointing out we would have better candidates to choose from if the MSM was not like it is today. I'm also pointing out how politicized our media is.
And I'm just pointing out that the same rules of capitalism that you want applied to yourself should apply to everyone - including the MSM.
I, on the other hand, believe that there should be regulation to ensure that all business do not violate the public's interest.
They do apply to the MSM. The problem is people keep going to their web sites, sending them emails, participate in their blogs, and that activity is used to sell advertising in which they make money.
It's kind of like the tobacco thing years ago. The tobacco companies held the position there was nothing wrong with smoking cigarettes. In other words, they lied to the people to make profit, and yes, were sued repeatedly for it later on.
Yes, the MSM is a for profit business. I do agree that they do not tell the whole truth - they lie by omission.
Their failure to openly and honestly discuss the truth about the Russian Covid-19 vaccine despite the number of people dying is a glaring example - they wouldn't want to undermine the AMA or American pharma companies.
But, it used to be that the news media made a clear distinction between reporting news and editorializing. It was FOX new that first stopped making that distinction, and it was FOX new that became very clearly and obviously politically biased.
Once the other news media saw how profitable it was for FOX to have non-stop editorializing, they followed suit.
I think that is true of the non-cable networks, but CNN and MSNBC are what they always were. Yes, Fox is right leaning, but it's only a counter station to all the others on cable and free television. One station vs all them.
I agree to some extent that CNN has always leaned to the middle (which you'd consider the left), but they were subtle about it.
FOX has been from the start obviously and blatantly far to the right.
Fox has leftists on all day to speak for themelves.
And CNN leans to the middle?
How far left are you? Can you even stand up?
FOX has always paid people to pretend they're liberals and to intentionally lose the arguments. The ultimate live strawmen!!
That started with Crossfire years ago.
Saying something you don't want to believe does not make someone a leftist.
Crossfire was on CNN, dumb ass.
And obviously you don't watch Fox since you don't know all the leftists they have on there. They're complete asses, that they "lose on purpose" is just you digging deeper and deeper into flagrant ignorance.
The only thing worse than having all those leftists on Fox is not having them and turning into an echo chamber like the leftist media that you worship
Oh wow, I forgot which network a show that closed many years ago was on...that make me a dumbass?
All I remember is that the 'liberal' on Crossfire was an idiot.
I watch FOX enough to know that most 'liberals' are strawmen.
It does make you a dumb ass to forget what network Crossfire was on when you specifically used that as an example of Fox bias, yes.
What happened to all this intelligence you just crowed about? Do you need a reboot?
So what you're saying is that you're too stupid to discuss 'Free Markets vs. Regulated markets' so you derailed the thread by nit picking a minor error that I made about which network carried 'Crossfire'.
Just the fact that CNN carried 'Crossfire' is proof that it was not a left leaning network.
Fox has Geraldo on their network. What about Chris Wallace? Alan Colmes was as left as you can get, and he was a host with Hannity before he went on his own. Judge Napolitano has been pretty left leaning at times, and I believe he hates Trump. They hired Juan Williams after he got fired from a liberal radio station, and he brings the liberal side to stories and issues all the time. Even guests like Dennis Kucinich appears for comments on issues.
Does that mean Fox leans left too?
Former DNC chair Donna Brazille is a regularMaria Harf. Arthelle Nevill. Tom Perez. Bob Beckle. Just a few. There are so many more.
Richard-H is full of shit. He never read the Communist Manifesto. Obviously he's never watched Fox News. He just thinks what he's told to think
Thanks for chiming in. I really don't watch a lot of Fox, but I often watch Hannity and never miss a Laura show. I forget the names of her liberal gusts she has on all the time. Hannity has repeatedly invited Joe Biden for an hour long interview. Never got a response.
I didn't watch a ton of Fox before the coronavirus. I watched The Five every day and the Gutfeld show which is once a week. I had no idea who was on all day. I've watched it a lot more since I've been working at home full time and work travel is zero. I don't watch it all the time, but enough that I know who the players are. Fox has leftists on all the time. Totally different from CNN and fake news
Gutfeld...
A Libertarian Globalist scumbag who
hated Trump until the second Trump won the nomination; now he's Trump's biggest advocate.
To be quite honest I could never stand the guy. I hate people who think they're funny, or try to be funny and they're not. If you're going to try and make comedy out of politics, you have to be a comic genius. Politics is hard to make comedy out of successfully.
The scumbag would mock any professional who lost their career due to globalism.
There are very few personalities on Fox who weren't scumbags before Trump.
Laura Ingraham kept getting fired from WABC Radio because she was always MAGA but her fans would force the Globalist scumbags owners to hire her back.
Steve Hilton and Tucker Carlson are great.
I seriously have to ask you at this point if you actually know what a globalist is. You seem to just throw the word out in different contexts indiscriminately
Off-Shoring is good.
Business Visas are good.
Ignore Trespassers.
Actually, globalism refers to a globally managed economy where governments control the flow of goods between countries. It extends a national government into a global government. Globalists are socialists.
You seem to be conflating globalist with global economy. Globalism is a global economy, but it's a government controlled one.
Capitalists support a global economy through free trade and market efficiency without government control. Foreign companies should simply have the same rules as domestic ones.
That's why I keep getting confused by what you said.
Off-shoring, business visas and illegal immigration are supported by globalists, but only as they serve government.
Again a capitalist would support a market driven global economy.
If you can separate those, it would make what you're saying a lot more clear