Socialism doesn't scare them anymore

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The current use of the word socialism is nothing more than a pejorative.
That depends on who's using it. Are you ok with the definition presented here (Democratic Socialists of America)? Because that scares me plenty.

What they and the left are opposing, IMO, is Plutocracy; a system of government and governance by the wealthy, i.e. corporations and those who benefited from the tax fraud which eliminated the top two tax brackets.
I oppose that as well. But I don't want to replace it with government control of the economy. That's too much power held by the state.
 

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Young people are not happy with the unequal world they’ve inherited. Millennials are embracing Socialism because unfettered capitalism failed them. Many grew up in cars or tenement slums during the great recession when GW Bush's call for "deregulation" allowed financial institutions to peddle toxic mortgage packages to anyone with a pulse, and ratings institutions such as Standard and Poor's looked the other way. As the economy crashed, and things got worse, the right wing refused to agree lend even a small a hand to the many who suffered needlessly, while the few at the top became wealthier still.

Young people, along with women and minorities watched as the economy slowly healed over the next 8 years with President Obama at the helm, and witnessed 30 million Americans who previously had little or no healthcare benefits could now see a doctor without medical bankruptcy in the back of their minds. The right wing screamed SOCIALISM! of course, but they didn't care - They now had medical coverage. They also watched Donald Trump do everything in his power to strip them and their families of that protection, while offering nothing to replace it with except - "Go see your insurance man"


Sorry Republicans - Socialism doesn't scare them anymore... :bye1:

The current use of the word socialism is nothing more than a pejorative. A word associated by the ignorant with totalitarianism. It's use is part of the hate and fear rhetoric we hear and read everyday.

What they and the left are opposing, IMO, is Plutocracy; a system of government and governance by the wealthy, i.e. corporations and those who benefited from the tax fraud which eliminated the top two tax brackets.
Correct. It's so much better being controlled by the unions, environmental groups and trial lawyers.
 

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Young people are not happy with the unequal world they’ve inherited. Millennials are embracing Socialism because unfettered capitalism failed them. Many grew up in cars or tenement slums during the great recession when GW Bush's call for "deregulation" allowed financial institutions to peddle toxic mortgage packages to anyone with a pulse, and ratings institutions such as Standard and Poor's looked the other way. As the economy crashed, and things got worse, the right wing refused to agree lend even a small a hand to the many who suffered needlessly, while the few at the top became wealthier still.

Young people, along with women and minorities watched as the economy slowly healed over the next 8 years with President Obama at the helm, and witnessed 30 million Americans who previously had little or no healthcare benefits could now see a doctor without medical bankruptcy in the back of their minds. The right wing screamed SOCIALISM! of course, but they didn't care - They now had medical coverage. They also watched Donald Trump do everything in his power to strip them and their families of that protection, while offering nothing to replace it with except - "Go see your insurance man"


Sorry Republicans - Socialism doesn't scare them anymore... :bye1:

Millennials want to belong to a tribe. They don’t really care about the cause as long as they can rage against something and feel important. Half of them when asked don’t even know who the VP is or the names of their congressmen. I doubt they even know what the hell socialism is.
 

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Millennials want to belong to a tribe. They don’t really care about the cause as long as they can rage against something and feel important. Half of them when asked don’t even know who the VP is or the names of their congressmen. I doubt they even know what the hell socialism is.
What they know about Socialism is that it's government taking care of all your problems. Younger people today don't want to deal with problems. It's why the last ten years or so, we have a renting problem in this country. As a landlord for over 25 years, I've never seen it like this before.

They don't want to mow the lawn, snowplow the snow, deal with a leaky roof, getting estimates on a new hot water tank, trying to figure out what's wrong with their toilet. They want to make one phone call, and their problems are solved.

I also read an article that claimed many millennials rent everything they have. They lease their cars, rent their furniture, rent their appliances. It costs a lot more, but they don't care, as long as they don't have to deal with the problems of ownership.
 

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Young people are not happy with the unequal world they’ve inherited
No. Young people are not happy because success, here in our America, requires years of hard work, sacrifice and personal responsibility.
And a huge reliance on the Socialist actions of the Federal Reserve.
Who benefits from these socialist actions by the government and the Fed? It sure appears that the extreme wealthy are the main beneficiaries.
The extreme wealthy are currently propping up BLM and the power grabs by the left. The government and the rich will always benefit while the surfs will continue to be used and abused. Apparently the millennials need to experience that...they just aren’t going to like it. They assume the only ones getting the shaft is going to be their political rivals. They are in for a very rude awakening.
 

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Young people are not happy with the unequal world they’ve inherited
No. Young people are not happy because success, here in our America, requires years of hard work, sacrifice and personal responsibility.
And a huge reliance on the Socialist actions of the Federal Reserve.
Who benefits from these socialist actions by the government and the Fed? It sure appears that the extreme wealthy are the main beneficiaries.
They absolutely are. And they sit around and laugh at those struggling believing they actually have a shot in our fake "capitalistic" system.
They still aren’t going to have a shot at the system if that’s what they think they are going to accomplish. They are just a means to an end to the left politicians in power. The power brokers on the left lead them blindly to the COVID laced subways in NY and they go bleeting baaaa the whole way. When enough of them got sick or died they sent them in the other direction. Useful idiots.
 

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Young people are not happy with the unequal world they’ve inherited
No. Young people are not happy because success, here in our America, requires years of hard work, sacrifice and personal responsibility.
And a huge reliance on the Socialist actions of the Federal Reserve.
Who benefits from these socialist actions by the government and the Fed? It sure appears that the extreme wealthy are the main beneficiaries.
They absolutely are. And they sit around and laugh at those struggling believing they actually have a shot in our fake "capitalistic" system.
They still aren’t going to have a shot at the system if that’s what they think they are going to accomplish. They are just a means to an end to the left politicians in power. The power brokers on the left lead them blindly to the COVID laced subways in NY and they go bleeting baaaa the whole way. When enough of them got sick or died they sent them in the other direction. Useful idiots.
If you haven't been paying attention, pay attention. Everything is falling apart.
 

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Millennials want to belong to a tribe. They don’t really care about the cause as long as they can rage against something and feel important. Half of them when asked don’t even know who the VP is or the names of their congressmen. I doubt they even know what the hell socialism is.
What they know about Socialism is that it's government taking care of all your problems. Younger people today don't want to deal with problems. It's why the last ten years or so, we have a renting problem in this country. As a landlord for over 25 years, I've never seen it like this before.

They don't want to mow the lawn, snowplow the snow, deal with a leaky roof, getting estimates on a new hot water tank, trying to figure out what's wrong with their toilet. They want to make one phone call, and their problems are solved.

I also read an article that claimed many millennials rent everything they have. They lease their cars, rent their furniture, rent their appliances. It costs a lot more, but they don't care, as long as they don't have to deal with the problems of ownership.
Yep...that is because they have no money and they can rent a house full of furniture with nothing down. When the money dries up they let it get repossessed. They also constantly get evicted and move over and over. Same with hospital bills ...they just don’t pay them. They don’t want to save up they what everything right now and they think everything should be given to them for free.
 

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Millennials want to belong to a tribe. They don’t really care about the cause as long as they can rage against something and feel important. Half of them when asked don’t even know who the VP is or the names of their congressmen. I doubt they even know what the hell socialism is.
What they know about Socialism is that it's government taking care of all your problems. Younger people today don't want to deal with problems. It's why the last ten years or so, we have a renting problem in this country. As a landlord for over 25 years, I've never seen it like this before.

They don't want to mow the lawn, snowplow the snow, deal with a leaky roof, getting estimates on a new hot water tank, trying to figure out what's wrong with their toilet. They want to make one phone call, and their problems are solved.

I also read an article that claimed many millennials rent everything they have. They lease their cars, rent their furniture, rent their appliances. It costs a lot more, but they don't care, as long as they don't have to deal with the problems of ownership.
Yep...that is because they have no money and they can rent a house full of furniture with nothing down. When the money dries up they let it get repossessed. They also constantly get evicted and move over and over. Same with hospital bills ...they just don’t pay them. They don’t want to save up they what everything right now and they think everything should be given to them for free.
Exactly, which is why Socialism is so appealing to them. Government healthcare, free college, paid time off of work, just all the things that would make their life so much easier.

I worked for a small company. I was talking with my employer who was telling me about an article he read in a small business magazine he subscribes to. The article addressed how to treat millennial workers. The article suggested giving them more time off of work. If they look a little down, call them into their office. Ask them what's wrong and how they could help. Give them a lot of breaks at work or perhaps let them go outside for a few hours to gather their thoughts. Maybe buy them lunch and tell them to take an extra half-hour paid.

I believe this is happening too. Several years ago I got a construction delivery. It was at Progressive Insurance. While helping the construction crew unload the truck outside, I noticed they had a track. I asked one of the workers what that track was for? He told me they called it a stress track. Anytime of the day if a worker tells their supervisor they feel stressed out, they are allowed to go out to the stress track. They can bring their skateboards, bicycles, skates, and even call their family and friends over to run around the track with.

Then I asked the construction worker how many employees are that stressed out. He let out a laugh and said "most of them."
 

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