Socialism - A lesson for Republicans

[occupied]

This is actually very true.

Though free-markets is the correct language.

But once proper relevance is understood, the op get blown out of the water.

Quite easily, in fact.

Free enterprise requires a fair degree of government involvement. Capitalism does not want any government involvement except to keep the rabble in line.

 

[Vrenn]

Free enterprise requires a fair degree of government involvement. Capitalism does not want any government involvement except to keep the rabble in line.

Once again, you are describing Fair Market. Free Market doesn't get much past the 3rd or 4th trade.

 

[Natural Citizen]

Free enterprise requires a fair degree of government involvement. Capitalism does not want any government involvement except to keep the rabble in line.

I don't think you understand your own doctrine. Respectfully speaking.

Anyway. It's first thing in the morning and you guys are already calling each other klansmen and terrorists.

Maybe I'll check back later. It's too early for bad energy.

Hey, don't forget my questions.

Thanks!

 

[dblack]

Nowhere in America's Constitution is the word "Capitalism" written. From the preamble right thru to the last penned word, it is not mentioned one single time.

Republicans - Do yourselves a favor, and stop putting your ignorance on display. America was not designed to be a purely Capitalist nation, if it were, then our Army, Navy, Courts, Congress, and law enforcement entities would all be privatized, so please stop sniveling about Socialism. America had elements of Socialism from the very beginning ...

Sounds like you need the lesson. Army, navy, courts, etc ... none of these have anything to do with state control of the means of production. You seem to have the simplistic view that anything government does is socialism. Get a grip. Get a dictionary.

 

[Vrenn]

Sounds like you need the lesson. Army, navy, courts, etc ... none of these have anything to do with state control of the means of production. You seem to have the simplistic view that anything government does is socialism. Get a grip. Get a dictionary.

Actually, as late as 1945, the Military was used against labor and some businesses. But in 1946, GE and Westinghouse tried to get Truman to send in the troops to force the workers back to work and he refused. Then they got a couple of Governors to agree to send in the Guards but Harry nixed that when he said he would send in Federal Troops to protect the Citizens from harm. GE and Westinghouse had no choice but to pony up on the promises they made to the workers during the War. Not much earlier than that, it was common to send in State Guards and Federal Troops to break workers.

 

[dblack]

Actually, as late as 1945, the Military was used against labor and some businesses. But in 1946, GE and Westinghouse tried to get Truman to send in the troops to force the workers back to work and he refused. Then they got a couple of Governors to agree to send in the Guards but Harry nixed that when he said he would send in Federal Troops to protect the Citizens from harm. GE and Westinghouse had no choice but to pony up on the promises they made to the workers during the War. Not much earlier than that, it was common to send in State Guards and Federal Troops to break workers.

Interesting. But what does that have to do with the topic?

 

[Vrenn]

Interesting. But what does that have to do with the topic?

I was just answering your response, nothing more. If my response has nothing to do with the OP then neither does yours.

dblack said:


Sounds like you need the lesson. Army, navy, courts, etc ... none of these have anything to do with state control of the means of production. You seem to have the simplistic view that anything government does is socialism. Get a grip. Get a dictionary.

 

[Devils_Advocate]

Nowhere in America's Constitution is the word "Capitalism" written. From the preamble right thru to the last penned word, it is not mentioned one single time.

Republicans - Do yourselves a favor, and stop putting your ignorance on display. America was not designed to be a purely Capitalist nation, if it were, then our Army, Navy, Courts, Congress, and law enforcement entities would all be privatized, so please stop sniveling about Socialism. America had elements of Socialism from the very beginning ...

Those are the facts Jack - Just the facts!

You need to read American History and realize it was never a socialist or capitalist state!

 

[dblack]

I was just answering your response, nothing more. If my response has nothing to do with the OP then neither does yours.

dblack said:


Sounds like you need the lesson. Army, navy, courts, etc ... none of these have anything to do with state control of the means of production. You seem to have the simplistic view that anything government does is socialism. Get a grip. Get a dictionary.

Whatever. I saw no relevance to your post. It didn't address anything I said, nor anything in the OP. So I ask for clarification. But if you don't want to be understood, your call.

 

[Vrenn]

Whatever. I saw no relevance to your post. It didn't address anything I said, nor anything in the OP. So I ask for clarification. But if you don't want to be understood, your call.

You just tried to play the tired old "You are the Smartest One and I am the Dumbest" card. It takes two to play that game and I refuse to pick up the cards. Meaning, you aren't the smartest person in the room.

 

[DBA]

The Right has so misapplied capitalism that they've shot themselves in the foot.

They've been convinced that proper regulations are a bane to capitalism, when in fact proper regulations are a critical component of capitalism.

And the result? More and more people are becoming open to Euro-democratic socialism.

Self inflicted wound, righties. I know you won't understand that.

Even if true, you have evidently made the decision that accepting the lunacy of the children that belive that Euro-democratic socialism makes more sense than simply attempting to support more regulations. BTW, we have plenty of regulations, but what we can’t regulate and continue to be successful is what you and other children have ultimately voted for…equality of outcome.

 

[John T. Ford]

Nowhere in America's Constitution is the word "Capitalism" written. From the preamble right thru to the last penned word, it is not mentioned one single time.

Republicans - Do yourselves a favor, and stop putting your ignorance on display. America was not designed to be a purely Capitalist nation, if it were, then our Army, Navy, Courts, Congress, and law enforcement entities would all be privatized, so please stop sniveling about Socialism. America had elements of Socialism from the very beginning ...

Those are the facts Jack - Just the facts!

Fucking history revisionist POS .....

 

[DBA]

"Commies"?

What is communism?

You have already been taken to school on this. Marxist Socialism is a pre-cursor to Communism. That isn’t a fabricated idea, but literally a definition. You chose to ignore that post for obvious reasons.

 

[John T. Ford]

Socialism in Venezuela ...... A Lesson For America !!!!

 

[Indeependent]

If it's okay to call me a communist who murdered tens of millions of people then I reserve the right to call you a terrorists that are in the process off murdering millions across the globe today, Adolf.

Here is a question for you. What is the difference between Slavery in the United States and Nazi Germany? I think the biggest difference is, Germans are more honest about Nazi Germany than you are about Slavery America. And part of Nazi Germany still exists in Germany but it's kept trodden down to never take over again and not allowed to rewrite history to make it look like a dozen roses. But you KKK (Terrorists by every definition) are allowed to resell your own brand of history to clean up your own terrorist acts and to keep parts of it going year after year.

The Germans ceased to be Nazis but you have never ceased to be Terrorist.

The nations you admire are close to 100% White.

 

[DBA]

If you had ever seen real communism, you would not ask that question.

Yes, and my in-laws and that entire side of the family have. They LAUGH at the pure ignorance and gullibility of people like MAC.

 

[Natural Citizen]

Can you explain the difference between free enterprise and capitalism then?

Ha. I remember you.

Good question, btw.

Don't hold your breath.

Ever notice how the Keynesians are almost universally ignored in all of these low-value discussons of socialism vs capitalism? Gosh. They're laughing all the way to the central bank.

Heck, they're paving the very path to communism.

 

[Vrenn]

The nations you admire are close to 100% White.

Now you are dictating which nations I MUST admire now. What's next, are you going to demand that I allow you to pass laws allowing you to get away with that?

 

[ThunderKiss1965]

Nowhere in America's Constitution is the word "Capitalism" written. From the preamble right thru to the last penned word, it is not mentioned one single time.

Republicans - Do yourselves a favor, and stop putting your ignorance on display. America was not designed to be a purely Capitalist nation, if it were, then our Army, Navy, Courts, Congress, and law enforcement entities would all be privatized, so please stop sniveling about Socialism. America had elements of Socialism from the very beginning ...

Those are the facts Jack - Just the facts!

Socialism is a socioeconomic philosophy where all means of production and resources are controlled by the Government. The Military and police forces are not socialism they are funded by the tax payer not the Government. All safety net programs are paid for by the tax payer. The Government is also funded by the tax payer. Thank you capitalism.

You morons are trying your hardest to make Socialism seem like a great thing even going so far as to make shit up.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

And maybe you don't know what the word Capitalism means, Or, as most commies do, just want to confuse the issue.

“Confuse the issue” means to go outside the scope of your limited understanding. It generally happens very quickly in these discussions. We see it clearly on the first page.