So Why All the Lying About Russia?

[buckeye45_73]

They lied to Congress

They lied to the FBI

They lied to the American people.

They risked JAIL for these lies.

Why would they do that?

You have to be specific genius.......what did Don Jr lie about?

traitor tot lied about the trump tower meeting, when he said it was about russian adoptions rather than 'getting dirt on hillary'. trump obstructed justice when he dictated to jr what to tweet out about said meeting, when they were on air force one.

He's never lied about that. He said he thought he could get dirt on Hilary, which is not illegal. but the Russian chick talked about adoptions, which is true. Yeah impeach a president over that tweet......even if it was true, which it was not......good luck

 

[buckeye45_73]

You have to be specific genius.......what did Don Jr lie about?

Trump Tower in Russia.

No Trump Tower in Russia. That was cooked up by Lanny Davis.

trump signed a letter of intent for that very same moscow tower.

so? is that illegal? show me the statute he violated.

He lied. Oh wait, you don't care how much Trump lied to you & dupe you into voting for him.

He had to file a financial disclosure form as a candidate & President. Did he list this business in Russia?

He signed the LOI & then claimed he had no business in Russia nor any plans for business with Russia.

He talks about filing that paperwork.....400 pages. what do you want? and what plans for Russia?

 

[buckeye45_73]

why do you want it to continue?

What is it you suggest be done?

I want answers.

Once we have the report we'll see if there are answers

The answers have already told you that there was no collusion, obstruction, etc. It won't matter though. You can't handle the fact that you lost 2016.

there may not have been enough to convict on a charge of conspiracy... but trump HAS NOT been exonerated on OBSTRUCTION & saying he has is a big fat orange LIE.

Name me a prosecutor that has exonerated someone?

 

[Lesh]

he doesn't lie. he embellishes, and I don't actually care.

So Clinton was impeached for "embellishing"?

You're lying about the first part...and absolutely honest about the last part.

You DO NOT CARE. It's partisan politics for you and nothing else

 

[jc456]

he doesn't lie. he embellishes, and I don't actually care.

So Clinton was impeached for "embellishing"?

You're lying about the first part...and absolutely honest about the last part.

You DO NOT CARE. It's partisan politics for you and nothing else

you are partisan right? you can't stand anything about a conservative. right? gaslighting again are you.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

They lied to Congress

They lied to the FBI

They lied to the American people.

They risked JAIL for these lies.

Why would they do that?

if donnie's emails where he is told a russian agent sent by putin to give dirt on hillary because putin wants trump to win, and donnie agrees to the meeting in Trump tower, and brings in Jared and Manafort who also know the purpose of the meeting, are not proof of collusion then what is? there is the rub- is it against the law to just talk to russian government agents when they ask if they can meet you to give you dirt on a poltical opponent because dictator crime boss Putin fears hillary and knows he has control over Trump? if it cannot be proven during that meeting that any of those guys said trump is good to go and he will make it worth your while, it is wrong and awful and should make everyone not want to support Trump, but it is probably also not indictable.

If $145 million in "charitable donations" is not proof of collusion then what is?

Wow, this lie again. You are so susceptible to being duped.

The bulk (131 million) was donated by Frank Giustra who divested his Uranium One interests in 2007.

I know, guys who were in business with Russians donated. Tricky!
There is no way Putin was involved...Are you really that stupid......as soon as I typed it, I knew how silly it sounds.

 

[Lesh]

He's never lied about that. He said he thought he could get dirt on Hilary, which is not illegal. but the Russian chick talked about adoptions, which is true. Yeah impeach a president over that tweet......even if it was true, which it was not......good luck

You just flat out LIE...doncha?

He absolutely lied about that meeting. He claimed it was about adoptions. It was about the tit for tat of Russian supplied "dirt on Hillary" (the acceptance of or even attempt to obtain is illegal) in return for the lifting of SANCTIONS. That's an ASTOUNDING act on it's face. Trading American policy for getting money to Putin. That's INSANE! How does that get ignored? They were offering to sell American POLICY

The particular sanction that they most wanted removed was the Magnitsky Act which so angered Putin because it affected HIS money (for which his retaliation was ending adoptions of Russian orphans)

Trump lied about that meeting. Don Jr. lied about that meeting. Manafort attended and Kushner attended.

 

[justoffal]

Process crimes and people's past that had nothing to do with the investigation.

There is no such animal as a "process crime".

There are felonies and misdemeanors.

And no one has answered the original question.

Why all these lies...about Russia?

In fact there is such an animal as a process
Crime. The manufactured lies are the very same reason Trump's lawyers refused to allow direct questioning.

Jo

 

[Lesh]

In fact there is such an animal as a process
Crime.

Really...state the statute that mentions it.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

why do you want it to continue?

What is it you suggest be done?

I want answers.

Once we have the report we'll see if there are answers

The answers have already told you that there was no collusion, obstruction, etc. It won't matter though. You can't handle the fact that you lost 2016.

there may not have been enough to convict on a charge of conspiracy... but trump HAS NOT been exonerated on OBSTRUCTION & saying he has is a big fat orange LIE.

Is that your fantasy on fantasy island?

 

[buckeye45_73]

He's never lied about that. He said he thought he could get dirt on Hilary, which is not illegal. but the Russian chick talked about adoptions, which is true. Yeah impeach a president over that tweet......even if it was true, which it was not......good luck

You just flat out LIE...doncha?

He absolutely lied about that meeting. He claimed it was about adoptions. It was about the tit for tat of Russian supplied "dirt on Hillary" (the acceptance of or even attempt to obtain is illegal) in return for the lifting of SANCTIONS. That's an ASTOUNDING act on it's face. Trading American policy for getting money to Putin. That's INSANE! How does that get ignored? They were offering to sell American POLICY

The particular sanction that they most wanted removed was the Magnitsky Act which so angered Putin because it affected HIS money (for which his retaliation was ending adoptions of Russian orphans)

Trump lied about that meeting. Don Jr. lied about that meeting. Manafort attended and Kushner attended.

He has always set it was setup to get dirt, but that it ended up being a bait and switch by the Russian chick

So it's not illegal to get dirt on a campaign...if it were the Hilary campaign would all be in jail based on the Steele dossier along
And Don Jr has always said he was looking for dirt when he set up the meeting.....he's never lied about that
And he has said the meeting ended up about adoption, which pissed him off...again never lied about that....


so where is the lie?

 

[hadit]

The leftist loons are still relying on every lie and discredited story the lying media came up with.

this must be the beginning of the end.

Tis the nature of the conspiracy theory. Anything and everything one hears is deemed either gospel truth or the foulest lie based on its agreement with the preconceived bias. Debunking doesn't matter.

 

[mr jones]

Process crimes and people's past that had nothing to do with the investigation.

There is no such animal as a "process crime".

There are felonies and misdemeanors.

And no one has answered the original question.

Why all these lies...about Russia?

In fact there is such an animal as a process
Crime. The manufactured lies are the very same reason Trump's lawyers refused to allow direct questioning.

Jo

bullshit. you are just a sheep who believes anything trump or fox bends you over and wants you to believe because you are too ignorant or mentally challenged to demand the truth. perjury is an incredibly hard crime to prove...it can't be about irrelevant crap, like what color suit did you have on or exactly what day or time it was, like dumbass trump said. it has to be intentional. it has to relevant to the investigation. it has to be considered important enough of a lie to have an affect on the investigation. there is no such thing as a process crime, that is just what your masters want you and other trump stooges to believe, because that is what you want to believe.

 

[jc456]

Process crimes and people's past that had nothing to do with the investigation.

There is no such animal as a "process crime".

There are felonies and misdemeanors.

And no one has answered the original question.

Why all these lies...about Russia?

In fact there is such an animal as a process
Crime. The manufactured lies are the very same reason Trump's lawyers refused to allow direct questioning.

Jo

bullshit. you are just a sheep who believes anything trump or fox bends you over and wants you to believe because you are too ignorant or mentally challenged to demand the truth. perjury is an incredibly hard crime to prove...it can't be about irrelevant crap, like what color suit did you have on or exactly what day or time it was, like dumbass trump said. it has to be intentional. it has to relevant to the investigation. it has to be considered important enough of a lie to have an affect on the investigation. there is no such thing as a process crime, that is just what your masters want you and other trump stooges to believe, because that is what you want to believe.

fallacy arguments are so boring.

 

[mr jones]

He's never lied about that. He said he thought he could get dirt on Hilary, which is not illegal. but the Russian chick talked about adoptions, which is true. Yeah impeach a president over that tweet......even if it was true, which it was not......good luck

You just flat out LIE...doncha?

He absolutely lied about that meeting. He claimed it was about adoptions. It was about the tit for tat of Russian supplied "dirt on Hillary" (the acceptance of or even attempt to obtain is illegal) in return for the lifting of SANCTIONS. That's an ASTOUNDING act on it's face. Trading American policy for getting money to Putin. That's INSANE! How does that get ignored? They were offering to sell American POLICY

The particular sanction that they most wanted removed was the Magnitsky Act which so angered Putin because it affected HIS money (for which his retaliation was ending adoptions of Russian orphans)

Trump lied about that meeting. Don Jr. lied about that meeting. Manafort attended and Kushner attended.

He has always set it was setup to get dirt, but that it ended up being a bait and switch by the Russian chick

So it's not illegal to get dirt on a campaign...if it were the Hilary campaign would all be in jail based on the Steele dossier along
And Don Jr has always said he was looking for dirt when he set up the meeting.....he's never lied about that
And he has said the meeting ended up about adoption, which pissed him off...again never lied about that....


so where is the lie?

working with foreign governments to influence an election is against the law, dumbass. paying a foreigner for his efforts to find out bad things about an opponent is legal, dumbass. Steele is a British citizen, one of our strongest allies. But he does not represent the British government in any way. He was the former head of the British spy agency in Moscow and had contacts with russians who were aware of Putin's and other oligarch's actions in that country, but were not acting as agents of that country...in fact, his russian contacts who supplied info about ties to putin and trump and to other russian bankers and fatcats connected to putin would probably be killed by Putin if he found out who they were!! get it? Steele's dossier was anti-Putin, not pro-russian. donnie's meeting was with clearly identified Putin agents, working at the behest of Putin to give Trump a better chance of winning the election- HIS OWN EMAILS SHOW THIS....the lie was after when he first said it was about Russian adoptions...you need to watch an actual news show to have a clue, bozo.

 

[jc456]

He's never lied about that. He said he thought he could get dirt on Hilary, which is not illegal. but the Russian chick talked about adoptions, which is true. Yeah impeach a president over that tweet......even if it was true, which it was not......good luck

You just flat out LIE...doncha?

He absolutely lied about that meeting. He claimed it was about adoptions. It was about the tit for tat of Russian supplied "dirt on Hillary" (the acceptance of or even attempt to obtain is illegal) in return for the lifting of SANCTIONS. That's an ASTOUNDING act on it's face. Trading American policy for getting money to Putin. That's INSANE! How does that get ignored? They were offering to sell American POLICY

The particular sanction that they most wanted removed was the Magnitsky Act which so angered Putin because it affected HIS money (for which his retaliation was ending adoptions of Russian orphans)

Trump lied about that meeting. Don Jr. lied about that meeting. Manafort attended and Kushner attended.

He has always set it was setup to get dirt, but that it ended up being a bait and switch by the Russian chick

So it's not illegal to get dirt on a campaign...if it were the Hilary campaign would all be in jail based on the Steele dossier along
And Don Jr has always said he was looking for dirt when he set up the meeting.....he's never lied about that
And he has said the meeting ended up about adoption, which pissed him off...again never lied about that....


so where is the lie?

working with foreign governments to influence an election is against the law, dumbass. paying a foreigner for his efforts to find out bad things about an opponent is legal, dumbass. Steele is a British citizen, one of our strongest allies. But he does not represent the British government in any way. He was the former head of the British spy agency in Moscow and had contacts with russians who were aware of Putin's and other oligarch's actions in that country, but were not acting as agents of that country...in fact, his russian contacts who supplied info about ties to putin and trump and to other russian bankers and fatcats connected to putin would probably be killed by Putin if he found out who they were!! get it? Steele's dossier was anti-Putin, not pro-russian. donnie's meeting was with clearly identified Putin agents, working at the behest of Putin to give Trump a better chance of winning the election- HIS OWN EMAILS SHOW THIS....the lie was after when he first said it was about Russian adoptions...you need to watch an actual news show to have a clue, bozo.

john Podesta and hitlery shouldn't have done that then eh?

And dude, you truly crack me up with your flailing around.

 

[mr jones]

Process crimes and people's past that had nothing to do with the investigation.

There is no such animal as a "process crime".

There are felonies and misdemeanors.

And no one has answered the original question.

Why all these lies...about Russia?

In fact there is such an animal as a process
Crime. The manufactured lies are the very same reason Trump's lawyers refused to allow direct questioning.

Jo

bullshit. you are just a sheep who believes anything trump or fox bends you over and wants you to believe because you are too ignorant or mentally challenged to demand the truth. perjury is an incredibly hard crime to prove...it can't be about irrelevant crap, like what color suit did you have on or exactly what day or time it was, like dumbass trump said. it has to be intentional. it has to relevant to the investigation. it has to be considered important enough of a lie to have an affect on the investigation. there is no such thing as a process crime, that is just what your masters want you and other trump stooges to believe, because that is what you want to believe.

fallacy arguments are so boring.

no kidding. I wish you and other dumbfuck trump stooges would cut it out. watch a news show, *****!! all you clowns do is vomit out right wing talking points you heard on Fox, much like lying ass Trump does all the time.

 

[jc456]

Process crimes and people's past that had nothing to do with the investigation.

There is no such animal as a "process crime".

There are felonies and misdemeanors.

And no one has answered the original question.

Why all these lies...about Russia?

In fact there is such an animal as a process
Crime. The manufactured lies are the very same reason Trump's lawyers refused to allow direct questioning.

Jo

bullshit. you are just a sheep who believes anything trump or fox bends you over and wants you to believe because you are too ignorant or mentally challenged to demand the truth. perjury is an incredibly hard crime to prove...it can't be about irrelevant crap, like what color suit did you have on or exactly what day or time it was, like dumbass trump said. it has to be intentional. it has to relevant to the investigation. it has to be considered important enough of a lie to have an affect on the investigation. there is no such thing as a process crime, that is just what your masters want you and other trump stooges to believe, because that is what you want to believe.

fallacy arguments are so boring.

no kidding. I wish you and other dumbfuck trump stooges would cut it out. watch a news show, *****!! all you clowns do is vomit out right wing talking points you heard on Fox, much like lying ass Trump does all the time.

come on back when you have something honest to discuss.

 

[mr jones]

He's never lied about that. He said he thought he could get dirt on Hilary, which is not illegal. but the Russian chick talked about adoptions, which is true. Yeah impeach a president over that tweet......even if it was true, which it was not......good luck

You just flat out LIE...doncha?

He absolutely lied about that meeting. He claimed it was about adoptions. It was about the tit for tat of Russian supplied "dirt on Hillary" (the acceptance of or even attempt to obtain is illegal) in return for the lifting of SANCTIONS. That's an ASTOUNDING act on it's face. Trading American policy for getting money to Putin. That's INSANE! How does that get ignored? They were offering to sell American POLICY

The particular sanction that they most wanted removed was the Magnitsky Act which so angered Putin because it affected HIS money (for which his retaliation was ending adoptions of Russian orphans)

Trump lied about that meeting. Don Jr. lied about that meeting. Manafort attended and Kushner attended.

He has always set it was setup to get dirt, but that it ended up being a bait and switch by the Russian chick

So it's not illegal to get dirt on a campaign...if it were the Hilary campaign would all be in jail based on the Steele dossier along
And Don Jr has always said he was looking for dirt when he set up the meeting.....he's never lied about that
And he has said the meeting ended up about adoption, which pissed him off...again never lied about that....


so where is the lie?

working with foreign governments to influence an election is against the law, dumbass. paying a foreigner for his efforts to find out bad things about an opponent is legal, dumbass. Steele is a British citizen, one of our strongest allies. But he does not represent the British government in any way. He was the former head of the British spy agency in Moscow and had contacts with russians who were aware of Putin's and other oligarch's actions in that country, but were not acting as agents of that country...in fact, his russian contacts who supplied info about ties to putin and trump and to other russian bankers and fatcats connected to putin would probably be killed by Putin if he found out who they were!! get it? Steele's dossier was anti-Putin, not pro-russian. donnie's meeting was with clearly identified Putin agents, working at the behest of Putin to give Trump a better chance of winning the election- HIS OWN EMAILS SHOW THIS....the lie was after when he first said it was about Russian adoptions...you need to watch an actual news show to have a clue, bozo.

john Podesta and hitlery shouldn't have done that then eh?

And dude, you truly crack me up with your flailing around.

what foreign government did they even talk to, stupid *****? good god, you are stupid even for a trump stooge. podesta had his emails hacked by RUSSIAN AGENTS WHO THEN HAD IT PUBLISHED IT ON RUSSIAN AGENT ASSANGE'S WIKILEAKS SITE, STUPID. we know that for a fact. have you even read any real news reports? can you even read any real news reports, boy?

 

[jc456]

He's never lied about that. He said he thought he could get dirt on Hilary, which is not illegal. but the Russian chick talked about adoptions, which is true. Yeah impeach a president over that tweet......even if it was true, which it was not......good luck

You just flat out LIE...doncha?

He absolutely lied about that meeting. He claimed it was about adoptions. It was about the tit for tat of Russian supplied "dirt on Hillary" (the acceptance of or even attempt to obtain is illegal) in return for the lifting of SANCTIONS. That's an ASTOUNDING act on it's face. Trading American policy for getting money to Putin. That's INSANE! How does that get ignored? They were offering to sell American POLICY

The particular sanction that they most wanted removed was the Magnitsky Act which so angered Putin because it affected HIS money (for which his retaliation was ending adoptions of Russian orphans)

Trump lied about that meeting. Don Jr. lied about that meeting. Manafort attended and Kushner attended.

He has always set it was setup to get dirt, but that it ended up being a bait and switch by the Russian chick

So it's not illegal to get dirt on a campaign...if it were the Hilary campaign would all be in jail based on the Steele dossier along
And Don Jr has always said he was looking for dirt when he set up the meeting.....he's never lied about that
And he has said the meeting ended up about adoption, which pissed him off...again never lied about that....


so where is the lie?

working with foreign governments to influence an election is against the law, dumbass. paying a foreigner for his efforts to find out bad things about an opponent is legal, dumbass. Steele is a British citizen, one of our strongest allies. But he does not represent the British government in any way. He was the former head of the British spy agency in Moscow and had contacts with russians who were aware of Putin's and other oligarch's actions in that country, but were not acting as agents of that country...in fact, his russian contacts who supplied info about ties to putin and trump and to other russian bankers and fatcats connected to putin would probably be killed by Putin if he found out who they were!! get it? Steele's dossier was anti-Putin, not pro-russian. donnie's meeting was with clearly identified Putin agents, working at the behest of Putin to give Trump a better chance of winning the election- HIS OWN EMAILS SHOW THIS....the lie was after when he first said it was about Russian adoptions...you need to watch an actual news show to have a clue, bozo.

john Podesta and hitlery shouldn't have done that then eh?

And dude, you truly crack me up with your flailing around.

what foreign government did they even talk to, stupid *****? good god, you are stupid even for a trump stooge. podesta had his emails hacked by RUSSIAN AGENTS WHO THEN HAD IT PUBLISHED IT ON RUSSIAN AGENT ASSANGE'S WIKILEAKS SITE, STUPID. we know that for a fact. have you even read any real news reports? can you even read any real news reports, boy?

you do know he got immunity to rag on Manafort right? hmmmmm you ain't too bright there are you?