So what should Obama have done?

[sangha]

The FEDs responded in a timely fashion.

The army corps of engineers aren't equpped to deal with this leak.

They responded. How?

The Coast Guard reponded and was at the scene within three hours.

It bush days to get the feds on the scene when Katrina hit NO.

 

[CMike]

The FEDs responded in a timely fashion.

The army corps of engineers aren't equpped to deal with this leak.

They responded. How?

The Coast Guard reponded and was at the scene within three hours.

It bush days to get the feds on the scene when Katrina hit NO.

What did they do to stop or clean up the leak?

 

[beowolfe]

So far, no one has been able to name one single thing Obama didn't do that would have helped reduce the damage.

As I predicted, no one has a clue. They just want a photo-op. According to the wingnuts, Obamas' terrible failing is that he didn't immeditately put his boots on and get his picture taken on an oil stained beach in LA (even though it took a month before the oil reached the shore)

They're confused and it goes all the way back to Hurrican katrina. They think people were pizzed at W because he didn't get down there until well after the hurricane had made landfall. NOT TRUE! The nation was pizzed at W for not having FEMA ready to help those people as soon as the storm was out of the way. And by help, we meant getting them ice and water......rescuing those trapped by floods.......stopping the local police from shooting people who were just trying to survive.......

I don't think anyone cared whether or not W went to the gulf coast. Just like now. It was the wingnuts and the GOP yelling that Obama hadn't been to the gulf coast. That didn't bother me because he sent all of the resources that the experts felt would help. That's more important that him going there because he personally knows zip about offshore oil drilling from a technical POV.

 

[beowolfe]

They responded. How?

The Coast Guard reponded and was at the scene within three hours.

It bush days to get the feds on the scene when Katrina hit NO.

What did they do to stop or clean up the leak?

Do you want the federal goverment to create a deep sea oil drilling emergency management agency? That is the only way the federal government under ANY president would be able to do what you're wanting them to do.......go in and stop the leak themselves. Yeah, that would be a real good use of taxpayer money. That would be the best job in the world. They would rehearse for years and years in the hope that there would be another deep sea oil disaster. As a taxpayer, I think that capability should be left up to the oil industry to create/possess.

 

[sangha]

The Coast Guard reponded and was at the scene within three hours.

It bush days to get the feds on the scene when Katrina hit NO.

What did they do to stop or clean up the leak?

Do you want the federal goverment to create a deep sea oil drilling emergency management agency? That is the only way the federal government under ANY president would be able to do what you're wanting them to do.......go in and stop the leak themselves. Yeah, that would be a real good use of taxpayer money. That would be the best job in the world. They would rehearse for years and years in the hope that there would be another deep sea oil disaster. As a taxpayer, I think that capability should be left up to the oil industry to create/possess.

Of course it's BP's responsibility to clean up the mess and stop the leak.

Only an idiot would think otherwise

That's why the idiot "small government" conservatives are the ones crying that the nanny state isnt bringing them a govt-paid binky

 

[Samson]

Do you want the federal goverment to create a deep sea oil drilling emergency management agency? That is the only way the federal government under ANY president would be able to do what you're wanting them to do.......go in and stop the leak themselves. Yeah, that would be a real good use of taxpayer money. That would be the best job in the world. They would rehearse for years and years in the hope that there would be another deep sea oil disaster. As a taxpayer, I think that capability should be left up to the oil industry to create/possess.

The MMS already is supposed to do this, and ALREADY collects $Billions to fund it, but chooses to only use about $6 million for oil spill emergency management.

 

[sangha]

More than 100 posts, and no one has any realistic suggestions besides having Obama put his boots on and getting his picture taken

 

[MaggieMae]

The FEDs responded in a timely fashion.

The army corps of engineers aren't equpped to deal with this leak.

All the relevant agencies have responded in a timely AND LEGAL fashion, despite Lie's arduous attempt to find loopholes in the law to boost his stupid contentions.

[Admiral Thad]Allen said that every available skimmer in the nation has been called into action, but not at the expense of oil operations in other parts of the country. Under the Oil Pollution Act of 1990, there are operations along the Texas Coast and Mississippi River which must have the capability of responding to a spill. “It’s all hands on deck,’’ he said. “If we were to remove that, we would have to grant them a waiver and take a risk position.’’

Read more: Coast Guard's Allen says more boats to be deployed for booms, skimming - Oil Spill - SunHerald.com

 

[beowolfe]

Do you want the federal goverment to create a deep sea oil drilling emergency management agency? That is the only way the federal government under ANY president would be able to do what you're wanting them to do.......go in and stop the leak themselves. Yeah, that would be a real good use of taxpayer money. That would be the best job in the world. They would rehearse for years and years in the hope that there would be another deep sea oil disaster. As a taxpayer, I think that capability should be left up to the oil industry to create/possess.

The MMS already is supposed to do this, and ALREADY collects $Billions to fund it, but chooses to only use about $6 million for oil spill emergency management.

ACtually, it's not.

The Minerals Management Service (MMS), a bureau in the U.S. Department of the Interior, is the Federal agency that manages the nation's natural gas, oil and other mineral resources on the outer continental shelf (OCS). The agency also collects, accounts for and disburses an average of $13.7 billion per year in revenues from Federal offshore mineral leases and from onshore mineral leases on Federal and American Indian lands. The program is national in scope and is headquartered in Washington, D.C.

The money they collect is passed on to the treasury. Maybe they SHOULD have the responsiblity for deep water oil disaster response, but as of right now,, they don't.

 

[ConHog]

About all he realistically could have done more than he has done is act like he gives a fuck, beyond campaigning that is. I'm sorry but when a large portion of our country is suffering the President shouldn't be on vacation, he shouldn't be sitting at $10K a plate party dinners, he shouldn't be watching his wife be serenaded by Paul McCartney, etc etc. Would his presence of made a difference to how much oil is leaking? No. Could he have swam down there and plugged the leak?No. BUt what kind of signal does it send when he's on the golf course when the governor of LA is BEGGING for help?


Time to face facts, all this clown cared about was getting the job.

 

[sangha]

Do you want the federal goverment to create a deep sea oil drilling emergency management agency? That is the only way the federal government under ANY president would be able to do what you're wanting them to do.......go in and stop the leak themselves. Yeah, that would be a real good use of taxpayer money. That would be the best job in the world. They would rehearse for years and years in the hope that there would be another deep sea oil disaster. As a taxpayer, I think that capability should be left up to the oil industry to create/possess.

The MMS already is supposed to do this, and ALREADY collects $Billions to fund it, but chooses to only use about $6 million for oil spill emergency management.

ACtually, it's not.

The Minerals Management Service (MMS), a bureau in the U.S. Department of the Interior, is the Federal agency that manages the nation's natural gas, oil and other mineral resources on the outer continental shelf (OCS). The agency also collects, accounts for and disburses an average of $13.7 billion per year in revenues from Federal offshore mineral leases and from onshore mineral leases on Federal and American Indian lands. The program is national in scope and is headquartered in Washington, D.C.

The money they collect is passed on to the treasury. Maybe they SHOULD have the responsiblity for deep water oil disaster response, but as of right now,, they don't.

You are correct. BP is responsible, and not just financially, for plugging the leak. MMS has responsibility for overseeing the effort.

 

[sangha]

About all he realistically could have done more than he has done is act like he gives a fuck, beyond campaigning that is. I'm sorry but when a large portion of our country is suffering the President shouldn't be on vacation, he shouldn't be sitting at $10K a plate party dinners, he shouldn't be watching his wife be serenaded by Paul McCartney, etc etc. Would his presence of made a difference to how much oil is leaking? No. Could he have swam down there and plugged the leak?No. BUt what kind of signal does it send when he's on the golf course when the governor of LA is BEGGING for help?


Time to face facts, all this clown cared about was getting the job.

When people were drowning in NO, bush was on vacation. He didn't end his vacation for days.

Condie Rice went to see B'way show and shopping for shoes. Bush gave speeches at fundraisers, and played guitar with a famous country star.

Guess what? Life goes on. That's not a bad message

 

[Dr.House]

43 outpaced 44's Gulf trips | POLITICO 44


Maybe Barry's planning more trips OTV (other than vacations)....

 

[sangha]

43 outpaced 44's Gulf trips | POLITICO 44


Maybe Barry's planning more trips OTV (other than vacations)....

Like I've said from the very beginning, the wingnuts big concern is with photo ops.

It's understandable. After 8 years of bush , they think that photo ops are the only thing a president does well.

 

[ConHog]

About all he realistically could have done more than he has done is act like he gives a fuck, beyond campaigning that is. I'm sorry but when a large portion of our country is suffering the President shouldn't be on vacation, he shouldn't be sitting at $10K a plate party dinners, he shouldn't be watching his wife be serenaded by Paul McCartney, etc etc. Would his presence of made a difference to how much oil is leaking? No. Could he have swam down there and plugged the leak?No. BUt what kind of signal does it send when he's on the golf course when the governor of LA is BEGGING for help?


Time to face facts, all this clown cared about was getting the job.

When people were drowning in NO, bush was on vacation. He didn't end his vacation for days.

Condie Rice went to see B'way show and shopping for shoes. Bush gave speeches at fundraisers, and played guitar with a famous country star.

Guess what? Life goes on. That's not a bad message

Umm Bush was boots on the ground in NO the moment the SS pronounced it safe. Seven days. Not that is relevant because Obama swore he'd do things differently in Washington.

This doesn't even address the fact that he didn't even send the people in Tenn a condolence letter.

 

[sangha]

About all he realistically could have done more than he has done is act like he gives a fuck, beyond campaigning that is. I'm sorry but when a large portion of our country is suffering the President shouldn't be on vacation, he shouldn't be sitting at $10K a plate party dinners, he shouldn't be watching his wife be serenaded by Paul McCartney, etc etc. Would his presence of made a difference to how much oil is leaking? No. Could he have swam down there and plugged the leak?No. BUt what kind of signal does it send when he's on the golf course when the governor of LA is BEGGING for help?


Time to face facts, all this clown cared about was getting the job.

When people were drowning in NO, bush was on vacation. He didn't end his vacation for days.

Condie Rice went to see B'way show and shopping for shoes. Bush gave speeches at fundraisers, and played guitar with a famous country star.

Guess what? Life goes on. That's not a bad message

Umm Bush was boots on the ground in NO the moment the SS pronounced it safe. Seven days. Not that is relevant because Obama swore he'd do things differently in Washington.

.

Like I've said over and over; Conservatives don't care about the cleanup; they're only concerned about photo ops

They like to see men dress up in costumes more than Liberace did

 

[Dr.House]

Barry loves the photo ops - when they're about him...

He'll be judged by his response or lack thereof to the crisis, and rightly so...

 

[ConHog]

When people were drowning in NO, bush was on vacation. He didn't end his vacation for days.

Condie Rice went to see B'way show and shopping for shoes. Bush gave speeches at fundraisers, and played guitar with a famous country star.

Guess what? Life goes on. That's not a bad message

Umm Bush was boots on the ground in NO the moment the SS pronounced it safe. Seven days. Not that is relevant because Obama swore he'd do things differently in Washington.

.

Like I've said over and over; Conservatives don't care about the cleanup; they're only concerned about photo ops

They like to see men dress up in costumes more than Liberace did

Say what? Are you aware that there were riots going on and people running around shooting at each other? Yes, definitely Bush should have ignored the advice of the military , LEO, and his SS and went in on day one with no protection.

Dubya had his flaws, and I would never call him a great President, but to compare his reaction to Katrina with this President's complete lack of apathy is ridiculous.

 

[Ravi]

About all he realistically could have done more than he has done is act like he gives a fuck, beyond campaigning that is. I'm sorry but when a large portion of our country is suffering the President shouldn't be on vacation, he shouldn't be sitting at $10K a plate party dinners, he shouldn't be watching his wife be serenaded by Paul McCartney, etc etc. Would his presence of made a difference to how much oil is leaking? No. Could he have swam down there and plugged the leak?No. BUt what kind of signal does it send when he's on the golf course when the governor of LA is BEGGING for help?


Time to face facts, all this clown cared about was getting the job.

When people were drowning in NO, bush was on vacation. He didn't end his vacation for days.

Condie Rice went to see B'way show and shopping for shoes. Bush gave speeches at fundraisers, and played guitar with a famous country star.

Guess what? Life goes on. That's not a bad message

Umm Bush was boots on the ground in NO the moment the SS pronounced it safe. Seven days. Not that is relevant because Obama swore he'd do things differently in Washington.

This doesn't even address the fact that he didn't even send the people in Tenn a condolence letter.

Pronounced it safe? How silly. It was never not safe except during the actual flood.

 

[ConHog]

When people were drowning in NO, bush was on vacation. He didn't end his vacation for days.

Condie Rice went to see B'way show and shopping for shoes. Bush gave speeches at fundraisers, and played guitar with a famous country star.

Guess what? Life goes on. That's not a bad message

Umm Bush was boots on the ground in NO the moment the SS pronounced it safe. Seven days. Not that is relevant because Obama swore he'd do things differently in Washington.

This doesn't even address the fact that he didn't even send the people in Tenn a condolence letter.

Pronounced it safe? How silly. It was never not safe except during the actual flood.

You can't be serious?