So What Crime is Mueller Investigating? It's been so long I have Forgot

Full transcript: FBI Director testifies on Russian interference in 2016 election

So We Find Out FBI Has Been Investigating Trump Since July


"The Russian active measures campaign may have begun as early as 2015
, when Russian intelligence services launched a series of spear fishing attacks designed to penetrate the computers of a broad array of Washington based Democratic and Republican party organizations, think tanks and other entities. This continued at least through the winter of 2016.

While at first the hacking may have been intended solely for the collection of foreign intelligence. In mid-2016 the Russians weapon eyes the stolen data and used platforms established by the Intel services, such as D.C. leaks in existing third-party channels like WikiLeaks to dump the documents. The stolen documents were almost uniformly damaging to the candidate Putin despised, Hillary Clinton. And by forcing her campaign to constantly respond to the daily drip of disclosures, the releases greatly benefited Donald Trump's campaign.

None of these facts is seriously in question. And they're reflected in the consensus conclusion of our intelligence agencies.

We will never know whether the Russian intervention was determinative in such a close election. Indeed, it is unknowable in a campaign to which so many small changes could have dictated a different result. More importantly, and for the purposes of our investigation, it simply does not matter.

What does matter is this, the Russians successfully meddled in our democracy and our intelligence agencies have concluded they will do so again. Ours is not the first democracy to be attacked by the Russians in this way. Russian intelligence has been simile interfering in the internal and political affairs of our European and other allies for decades.


What is striking here is the degree to which the Russians were willing to undertake such an audacious and risky action against the most powerful nation on Earth. That ought to be a warning to us that if we thought that the Russians would not dare to so blatantly interfere in our affairs, we were wrong.

And if we do not do our very best to understand how the Russians accomplished this unprecedented attack on our democracy and what we need to do to protect ourselves in the future, we will only have ourselves to blame.

We know a lot about the Russian operation, about the way they amplified the damage their hacking and dumping of stolen documents was causing through the use of slick propaganda like R.T., the Kremlin's media arm. But there is a lot we don't know.

Most important, we do not yet know whether the Russians have the help of U.S. citizens including people associated with the Trump campaign. Many of the Trump's campaign personnel, including the president himself, have ties to Russia and Russian interests. This is of course no crime. On the other hand, if the Trump campaign or anyone associated with it aided or abetted the Russians, it would not only be a serious crime, it would also represent one of the most shocking betrayals of democracy in history."




What we know about the 21 states targeted by Russian hackers
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ut-the-21-states-targeted-by-russian-hackers/


10 Months After Election Day, Feds Tell States More About Russian Hacking
 
No one was caught colluding with anyone. Democrats made it up to discredit the election. Now starting the second year where democrats refuse to accept the election results.
 
:laugh: MANY members of team trump were caught RED-handed (pun intended)


"collusion" itself is not a crime unless and until it involves criminal activity.
 
"Most important, we do not yet know whether the Russians have the help of U.S. citizens including people associated with the Trump campaign. Many of the Trump's campaign personnel, including the president himself, have ties to Russia and Russian interests. This is of course no crime.

On the other hand, if the Trump campaign or anyone associated with it aided or abetted the Russians, it would not only be a serious crime, it would also represent one of the most shocking betrayals of democracy in history."
 
what kind of so-called "patriot" would want to impede that investigation...?? :eusa_think:




the official FBI stance:


"We will never know whether the Russian intervention was determinative in such a close election. Indeed, it is unknowable in a campaign to which so many small changes could have dictated a different result. More importantly, and for the purposes of our investigation, it simply does not matter."
 
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Congressional Republicans who stick by Trump and protect him will be remembered as the villains of Washington’s unfolding drama. They are the ones enabling an epic White House end run around the constitution.


Instead of holding Trump to account, Republicans are joining him in a cynical attempt to tarnish the FBI and undermine the criminal investigation into Russian election meddling.


Trump's attack on the FBI is an attack on the US constitution itself


 
And apparently he has as well.

It is long past time to put this side show to bed when his hunting takes him so far afield as to investigating ten year old matters that DOJ declined to prosecute..
Mueller has a Counter Intelligence nvestigation on the Russians and what they did to interfere in our election process, and an investigation on how the Russians might have gained, wittingly or unwittingly .....the help of Americans to achieve their mission.

The average counter intelligence investigation takes 3 years, at minimum.....And this one is complicated and has many arms to it....

NRA aspect, Cambridge Analytica, Wiki Leaks, Money Laundering, Facebook, Twitter, Sputnik, RT and other Russian media outlets....Oligarchs, illegal campaign donations, sanctions/ removal, quid pro quo, pay to play, ....

This investigation is HUGE, with lots of different aspects that will eventually tie it all together, or NOT?

It isn't even close to being over.
Since when do Special Counsels do counter-intelligence investigations and refuse to cooperate with the appropriate committees in Congress?

This is the realm of the FBI, not DOJ.
It breaks justice department rules to give information out during an ongoing official investigation, especially top SECRET information. Nunes ....Mr Trumps lapdog, can wait till the investigation is over.....

WHY does he need it now? He hasn't even read the reams of documents he's requested and gotten already?

Nunes should be impeached, he should have kept himself recused..... he's too personally tied to the Trump campaign and transition team, being he was part of it.... he's crooked Jim, to his core.

He's SUPPOSE TO BE a watchdog of the President, not a bedfellow.
 
And apparently he has as well.

It is long past time to put this side show to bed when his hunting takes him so far afield as to investigating ten year old matters that DOJ declined to prosecute..
Mueller has a Counter Intelligence nvestigation on the Russians and what they did to interfere in our election process, and an investigation on how the Russians might have gained, wittingly or unwittingly .....the help of Americans to achieve their mission.

The average counter intelligence investigation takes 3 years, at minimum.....And this one is complicated and has many arms to it....

NRA aspect, Cambridge Analytica, Wiki Leaks, Money Laundering, Facebook, Twitter, Sputnik, RT and other Russian media outlets....Oligarchs, illegal campaign donations, sanctions/ removal, quid pro quo, pay to play, troll farms, and that ain't the half of it, just to get to the truth!:eek:

This investigation is HUGE, with lots of different aspects that will eventually tie it all together, or NOT?

It isn't even close to being over.


Translation~ the DNC rigged their nomination and Hillary's multiple shenanigans was reported to the public.
 
That pig of a man Mueller will find a crime if that's the last thing he does. Such a scumbucket.

And a republican to boot. LOL

He's as Republican as John McCain. Which of course means he isn't one. You should see his track record. The man is nothing short of evil.

Stasi tactics and all.

I have respect for McCain and Mueller, and none for the Don and his whitehouse.

McCain is a sell out like all the other Repukinas

-Geaux
 
So What Crime is Mueller Investigating?

Idiot bed wetters believe it's a crime to oppose them. That's why they riot at opposition speeches, insist people who reject global whining are arrested, and wipe out millions once they gain power over disarmed people.


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I hope it continues and that the Democrats continue to be retarded over Trump.

The Democrats' advantage in the generic ballot plunged from 16 points in February to six points in March to just three points now.

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Please Demtards, please don't stop!!
 
And still no crime beyond we do not know and what if.
Amazing that with all the guilty pleas, indictments and even one guy serving a sentence in prison, this trumpbot is still playing like no crimes were committed.
 
And still no crime beyond we do not know and what if.
Amazing that with all the guilty pleas, indictments and even one guy serving a sentence in prison, this trumpbot is still playing like no crimes were committed.

Indictments are not a crime. The guilty pleas are for process crimes that have nothing to do with "Russians" or Trump.
 
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And apparently he has as well.

It is long past time to put this side show to bed when his hunting takes him so far afield as to investigating ten year old matters that DOJ declined to prosecute..
How long did your ilk investigate Hillary w/ No indictments?

Trump is slime.
 
And still no crime beyond we do not know and what if.
Amazing that with all the guilty pleas, indictments and even one guy serving a sentence in prison, this trumpbot is still playing like no crimes were committed.

Indictments are not a crime. The guilty please are for process crimes that have nothing to do with "Russians" or Trump.
I knew you were going to call the proven crimes to be "process crimes". And indictments are in fact indications and allegations that crimes have been committed and that the courts need to make a final determination.
"Process crimes" appear to mean that if you can lie, mislead, and obstruct justice you can only be accused of a "process crime" which is not a serious crime to these folks apparently.
 
And still no crime beyond we do not know and what if.
Amazing that with all the guilty pleas, indictments and even one guy serving a sentence in prison, this trumpbot is still playing like no crimes were committed.

Indictments are not a crime. The guilty please are for process crimes that have nothing to do with "Russians" or Trump.
I knew you were going to call the proven crimes to be "process crimes". And indictments are in fact indications and allegations that crimes have been committed and that the courts need to make a final dthetermination.
"Process crimes" appear to mean that if you can lie, mislead, and obstruct justice you can only be accused of a "process crime" which is not a serious crime to these folks apparently.

An indictment is an accusation. Nothing more. They are a dime a dozen. A prosecutor can get a grand jury to indict a ham sandwich.

How many of the guilty pleas are about RUSSIA? ZERO.

How many are about Trump? ZERO.

Keep digging. It is helping Trump.
 
And apparently he has as well.

It is long past time to put this side show to bed when his hunting takes him so far afield as to investigating ten year old matters that DOJ declined to prosecute..
how long was Benghazi....did you forget what they were investigating? Or Whitewater?
I do believe I posted here that the GOP needed to either press impeachment on Obama or drop the shit.

This kind of partisan bullshit is tearing our nation apart.
 

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