So Trumps flip flopping on Ukraine funding already

[YoursTruly]

I guess for the same reason they supported Biden for doing it. Cults.

struth didn't vote for Biden.

 

[kyzr]

Agreeing to continue funding the war is not a peace plan. Cut the money off and the war ends.

We'd like to end the war with Ukraine intact. Cutting US funding means Russia captures Ukraine.
That's why we need a peace plan.
A Russian oil boycott could end the war fairly since Putin's cash is running out.
We need to threaten China and India with tariffs if they keep buying Russian oil.

 

[pknopp]

struth didn't vote for Biden.

Nor did I so mine was a reply in kind.

 

[struth]

struth didn't vote for Biden.

Clearly, pknopp likes to project

 

[YoursTruly]

Our only concern should be not funding Ukraine. Even if there's a mineral deal to be made there.
And why TF is Trump involving himself in a mineral trade deal? That's free market stuff. Something the government needs to stay out of, also.

 

[TimFitz]

He didn’t say he’d have it ended, but settled

He also didn’t say he’d have it ended before taking office as claimed but after he won, like I claimed

And yes he had them at the settlement table, neg an end.

Winning

Why do you hate peace?

“He didn’t say he’d have it ended, but settled ”

I know that this is one of those idiotic knee jerk attempt to rationalize Trump’s duplicity and incompetence.

But if you’re going to double down on it, then please explain how one can “settle” a war without ending it.

 

[pknopp]

We'd like to end the war with Ukraine intact. Cutting US funding means Russia captures Ukraine.
That's why we need a peace plan.
A Russian oil boycott could end the war fairly since Putin's cash is running out.
We need to threaten China and India with tariffs if they keep buying Russian oil.

Starting wars with China and India is a losing proposition.

 

[YoursTruly]

Nor did I so mine was a reply in kind.

Clearly, pknopp likes to project

It sound like you two are agreeing on a lot. But neither of you want to admit it.

Have you both had your coffee this morning?

 

[pknopp]

Clearly, pknopp likes to project

You like to project.

 

[pknopp]

It sound like you two are agreeing on a lot. But neither of you want to admit it.

Have you both had your coffee this morning?

No idea what I am supposedly agreeing on. My position from day one is for us to stay out of the war and support our previously agreements. (No eastward expansion of NATO)

 

[j-mac]

I noted that this is likely what would happen. I am not Trump supporter but I sided with him no longer supporting the war but I said in the end it likely wouldn't happen.

So, you would like everything in a Presidency done in 30 days....Interesting that you only apply that to Trump....When in fact Trump has done more in 30 days, on multiple fronts, than any President I can think of in my life time....

https://www.newsnationnow.com/politics/trump-first-month-second-term-recap/

Trump sells out the country to boost his business interests.

Baseless accusation....(that's the reason for no link backing up that bullshit)....

Democrats have become the party of the rich elite....You must not have gotten the memo....

Democrats are the party of the wealthy, IRS data shows

Democrats are the party of the wealthy, a flip from decades ago when it was the party of the poor and middle class. Democrats represented 65% of taxpayers

www.washingtonexaminer.com

 

[citygator]

What Putin dying of?

I have no idea. Dude is 72. It’s math and an eventuality.

 

[struth]

“He didn’t say he’d have it ended, but settled ”

I know that this is one of those idiotic knee jerk attempt to rationalize Trump’s duplicity and incompetence.

But if you’re going to double down on it, then please explain how one can “settle” a war without ending it.

Ceasefires

Peace talks

It’s splitting hairs, but he made clear it would be done quickly and he’s working very quickly. Sounds like Ukrainian has agreed to the rare earth deal, ensuring long term sercurity by the United States and forcing Putin to come to favorabile terms

 

[pknopp]

So, you would like everything in a Presidency done in 30 days....

Bugger off. I have no interest in your dishonesty.

 

[YoursTruly]

So, you would like everything in a Presidency done in 30 days....I

He said it was going to be done by now. Trump supporters praised him when he said he'd get it done before taking office. Said it would be easy. That it would only take a few phone calls.

Well, apparently Trump was lying. Not that his supporters care if he lies or not.

 

[pknopp]

Democrats have become the party of the rich elite....You must not have gotten the memo....

Odd, I've noted that for years.

 

[struth]

I have no idea. Dude is 72. It’s math and an eventuality.

So you are just making things up? Geez he could live another twenty years…you are willing to let people die for 20 more years just to get trump? Sad

Will Ukraine realizes your are an idiot and is working out a rare earth deal with trump for sercurity

 

[YoursTruly]

Ceasefires

Peace talks

It’s splitting hairs, but he made clear it would be done quickly and he’s working very quickly. Sounds like Ukrainian has agreed to the rare earth deal, ensuring long term sercurity by the United States and forcing Putin to come to favorabile terms

Those minerals are some free market stuff, that Trump shouldn't be involved in.

What are the minerals, anyways? Are they really rare? Or is that just another lie Trumps making?

 

[struth]

Our only concern should be not funding Ukraine. Even if there's a mineral deal to be made there.
And why TF is Trump involving himself in a mineral trade deal? That's free market stuff. Something the government needs to stay out of, also.

Because the United States which he is head of state of, has spent billions in Ukraine and he wants the people he represents to get a chance to get some of that back.

Nations enter into trade deals all the time, in fact govts hava a huge role in that

 

[TimFitz]

Our only concern should be not funding Ukraine. Even if there's a mineral deal to be made there.
And why TF is Trump involving himself in a mineral trade deal? That's free market stuff. Something the government needs to stay out of, also.

Our only concern should be in keeping aukraine funded and helping them inflict defeat on Putin.

The geopolitical implications of such a cter wold be a huge boon to the a United States and our influence in the world.

The mineral threat is a typical hare brained Trump blackmail stunt.