So it's "America First" vs. MAGA now

It's clear that the internal squabbles in the GQP are between two groups now: The original MAGA (fully under Trump's control) and "America First"", which is being led by MTG, Nick Fuentes and others.

Marjorie Taylor Greene says Republicans "terrified to step out of line" when it comes to Trump

And those leading the "America First" side are pulling no punches. They know Trump has been nothing but a chaos merchant globally, and that he is clearly lying to them about the economy and the effectiveness of the tariffs. It does appear that, of the two, they have more momentum currently.

The good news for MAGA is that most shameless congressional Republicans are still terrified of Trump and his tantrums, although that is beginning to come apart too.

USMB GQPers seem mostly MAGA, no? They still protect and attack for their guy no matter what.

I guess we'll see!

:popcorn:

Q….BOO!
 
It's clear that the internal squabbles in the GQP are between two groups now: The original MAGA (fully under Trump's control) and "America First"", which is being led by MTG, Nick Fuentes and others.

Marjorie Taylor Greene says Republicans "terrified to step out of line" when it comes to Trump

And those leading the "America First" side are pulling no punches. They know Trump has been nothing but a chaos merchant globally, and that he is clearly lying to them about the economy and the effectiveness of the tariffs. It does appear that, of the two, they have more momentum currently.

The good news for MAGA is that most shameless congressional Republicans are still terrified of Trump and his tantrums, although that is beginning to come apart too.

USMB GQPers seem mostly MAGA, no? They still protect and attack for their guy no matter what.

I guess we'll see!

:popcorn:
Reminds me of when Biden was clearly not there and the left blindly supported Biden and lied about his cognitive abilities.

The longer this goes on, the more convinced I am that the two party system has failed.
 
No. It's my standard response to partisan trolls. We've talked before. You know where stand. I'm not here for a circle jerk.
Is this where we pretend I know you somehow? Sorry man, if we've ever conversed, if I've ever read your post(s), your handle completely escapes me.

If you've done what you say you have I'd remember anyway, because a leftist saying something true and meaningful would certainly be an outlier.

.Articulate why things just get worse and worse trumpish. You know how it is, beyond even your expectations. Show us why your rants are more than left-imaginations
 
It's clear that the internal squabbles in the GQP are between two groups now: The original MAGA (fully under Trump's control) and "America First"", which is being led by MTG, Nick Fuentes and others.

Marjorie Taylor Greene says Republicans "terrified to step out of line" when it comes to Trump

And those leading the "America First" side are pulling no punches. They know Trump has been nothing but a chaos merchant globally, and that he is clearly lying to them about the economy and the effectiveness of the tariffs. It does appear that, of the two, they have more momentum currently.

The good news for MAGA is that most shameless congressional Republicans are still terrified of Trump and his tantrums, although that is beginning to come apart too.

USMB GQPers seem mostly MAGA, no? They still protect and attack for their guy no matter what.

I guess we'll see!

:popcorn:
I was MAGA. I hopped on board before the 2016 election. Back then, I disagreed with Trump on the experimental and dangerous vaccines; his belief in the "red flag" gun laws; and his statement that "we should take the guns and worry about due process later" (paraphrased) comment. Red flags to be sure but I liked most of his other declared ideals and policies.

I voted for him again in 2020 and truly believe that the election was legitimately stolen. I believe that lots of fraud took place that gave Biden the edge. Facts about Hunter Biden were hidden while lies about Trump were elevated. Ballot boxes were being stuffed by leftist activists. It was a stolen election.

I voted for him again in 2024 because he seemed to have a more sincere message than before. I figured that he'd been so horribly persecuted by the Democrats and their lawfare tactics that he was really going to fight and that we'd really see a draining of the Swamp. I was happy when he, Bondi, Patel, and Bongino all (in unison) declared that they would open the Epstein files and seek justice for the Epstein victims. I was also extremely happy when DOGE went to work. Wow ... we were finally going to get our government back and reclaim all of those stolen or misused tax dollars. I was also looking forward to peace and bringing our troops home. I thought for sure we'd try and convict Hillary, Comey, Clapper, Brennan, etc. All of these things were pleasing to my America First, Conservative, Nationalist heart. My level of hope hadn't been that high in decades.

DOGE started out really strong but sort of started going away at about the same time Trump signed a $3 Trillion spending bill raising our national debt to nearly $40 Trillion. WHAT? I was a bit shocked but gave Trump the benefit of the doubt and a pass. But then came the day my jaw dropped when Trump claimed that Epstein and Maxwell were "hoaxes." How could two child traffickers be hoaxes? Would traffickers be arrested if there weren't at least a few victims of their crimes? Were the victims "hoaxes" as well? Was there really someone named Jeffry Epstein and did he really commit a heinous crime or was it all a lie? I was pretty bewildered. (And [side note], I can't forget the bombing of Iran when they hadn't done anything worthy of being bombed.)

Then came that fateful day when I felt that deep stab in the back. It was the day that Trump called anyone seeking justice for the Epstein victims "weaklings" followed by his declaration that he "no longer needed" our support. I was literally stunned. I just sat in my chair and realized that I (we) had been conned and lied to. I was literally in emotional turmoil. I went from deep disappointment to shame for allowing myself to be duped to anger to fury in a matter of ten minutes. I literally felt the blood flush my face.

That was the day I left the "MAGA" "hoax" and turned to the "America First" team. Well, actually, I had always been "America First" but I, like everyone else, thought that "MAGA" and "America First" were synonyms. How wrong I was.
 
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I was MAGA. I hopped on board before the 2016 election. Back then, I disagreed with Trump on the experimental and dangerous vaccines; his belief in the "red flag" gun laws; and his statement that "we should take the guns and worry about due process later" (paraphrased) comment. Red flags to be sure but I liked most of his other declared ideals and policies.

I voted for him again in 2020 and truly believe that the election was legitimately stolen. I believe that lots of fraud took place that gave Biden the edge. Facts about Hunter Biden were hidden while lies about Trump were elevated. Ballot boxes were being stuffed by leftist activists. It was a stolen election.

I voted for him again in 2024 because he seemed to have a more sincere message than before. I figured that he'd been so horribly persecuted by the Democrats and their lawfare tactics that he was really going to fight and that we'd really see a draining of the Swamp. I was happy when he, Bondi, Patel, and Bongino all (in unison) declared that they would open the Epstein files and seek justice for the Epstein victims. I was also extremely happy when DOGE went to work. Wow ... we were finally going to get our government back and reclaim all of those stolen or misused tax dollars. I was also looking forward to peace and bringing our troops home. I thought for sure we'd try and convict Hillary, Comey, Clapper, Brennan, etc. All of these things were pleasing to my America First, Conservative, Nationalist heart. My level of hope hadn't been that high in decades.

DOGE started out really strong but sort of started going away at about the same time Trump signed a $3 Trillion spending bill raising our national debt to nearly $40 Trillion. WHAT? I was a bit shocked but gave Trump the benefit of the doubt and a pass. But then came the day my jaw dropped when Trump claimed that Epstein and Maxwell were "hoaxes." How could two child traffickers be hoaxes? Would traffickers be arrested if there weren't at least a few victims of their crimes? Were the victims "hoaxes" as well? Was there really someone named Jeffry Epstein and did he really commit a heinous crime or was it all a lie? I was pretty bewildered. And, I can't forget the bombing of Iran when they hadn't done anything worthy of being bombed.

Then came that fateful day when I felt that deep stab in the back. It was the day that Trump called anyone seeking justice for the Epstein victims "weaklings" followed by his declaration that he "no longer needed" our support. I was literally stunned. I just sat in my chair and realized that I (we) had been conned and lied to. I was literally in emotional turmoil. I went from deep disappointment to shame for allowing myself to be duped to anger to fury in a matter of ten minutes. I literally felt the blood flush my face.

That was the day I left the "MAGA" "hoax" and turned to the "America First" team. Well, actually, I had always been "America First" but I, like everyone else, thought that "MAGA" and "America First" were synonyms. How wrong I was.
We actually aren't that dissimilar.

I have several agreements with the GOP in general, but what they absolutely refuse to see -- or maybe what they just don't understand -- is that THE WAY one approaches a problem matters. This caveman approach I'm seeing to pretty much everything is not the way to do it. Not when dealing with intelligent adults around the country and the world.

Back in 2017 when Trump first took office, I expressed my concern that Trump and his cronies would go so far that they would end up opening the door for the hard Left to return without having to improve in any way. Right now that definitely looks like a possibility.

What I hate to see is America either (a) being made to look juvenile, immoral and stupid, or (b) being EXPOSED as being juvenile, immoral and stupid.

This has never been about politics for me, and it has never been about Trump for me It's about US. And no matter how many times I say it, MAGA just doesn't get it.
 
That's been one of the ugliest parts of this, the way so many so-called "Christians" have sold their soul to a guy who is essentially the opposite of the Jesus Christ they claim to follow. And that includes many church leaders.
Not all of us are Christy. Some of us have zero respect for ANY/ALL organized religion; preferring Morality over Theology.
 
Not all of us are Christy. Some of us have zero respect for ANY/ALL organized religion; preferring Morality over Theology.
Well, that would work. Try that!
 
'America first' is not about Trump , it's about Americans

which is nothing new.....
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Taylor-Greene stepped out of line, the cult leader lost his mind, the cult quickly threw her under the bus, and now MTG sounds like the reasonable one.

Think about that: The one person in the Republican Party who is sounding reasonable is named Marjorie Taylor-Greene.

That's how far we've fallen.

LOL, MTG is following the Nikki Haley playbook.
While MTG is squawking about texts from TRUMP or whatever little spat they had, going on liberal media programs and making the rounds on liberal news, TRUMP is working on deporting illegals, fixing the economy and bring world peace.

So once again TRUMP focused a few minutes on trashing MTG and he's moved on working towards MAGA and putting America First. While MTG has spent the last few weeks whining about TRUMP, announcing her retirement and missing votes.

TRUMP's non-stop work and ability to focus on multiple things, traps people like MTG, Thomas Massie and Rand Paul in a box where there entire focus becomes about TRUMP.
 
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LOL, MTG is following the Nikki Haley playbook.
While MTG is squawking about texts from TRUMP or whatever little spat they had, going on liberal media programs and making the rounds on liberal news, TRUMP is working on deporting illegals, fixing the economy and bring world peace.

So once again TRUMP focused a few minutes on trashing MTG and he's moved on working towards MAGA and putting America First. While MTG has spent the last few weeks whining about TRUMP, announcing her retirement and missing votes.

TRUMP's non-stop work and ability to focus on multiple things, traps people like MTG, Thomas Massie and Rand Paul in a box where there entire focus becomes about TRUMP.
Trump breaks brains…it’s what he does. He’s broke ALL leftist brains and he’ll break the brain of anyone who attempts to impede his progress.
 
I have several agreements with the GOP in general
BULLSHIT!
No you don’t.
but what they absolutely refuse to see -- or maybe what they just don't understand -- is that THE WAY one approaches a problem matters. This caveman approach I'm seeing to pretty much everything is not the way to do it. Not when dealing with intelligent adults around the country and the world.
Soft pussies couldn’t get anything done in this shithole America and you know it…just be honest and say you wish the GOP couldn’t anything done. We all know exactly what you mean.
Back in 2017 when Trump first took office, I expressed my concern that Trump and his cronies would go so far that they would end up opening the door for the hard Left to return without having to improve in any way. Right now that definitely looks like a possibility.
Yeah yeah yeah…you’ve said lots of profound and revolutionary shit…just ask you.
What I hate to see is America either (a) being made to look juvenile, immoral and stupid, or (b) being EXPOSED as being juvenile, immoral and stupid.
Optics are for pussies to care about…Good real core Americans like policy, they want results in their favor….No POTUS has done more for core Americans.
This has never been about politics for me, and it has never been about Trump for me It's about US. And no matter how many times I say it, MAGA just doesn't get it.
127,900 posts on a political forum and it’s never been about politics huh?
 
We actually aren't that dissimilar.

I have several agreements with the GOP in general, but what they absolutely refuse to see -- or maybe what they just don't understand -- is that THE WAY one approaches a problem matters. This caveman approach I'm seeing to pretty much everything is not the way to do it. Not when dealing with intelligent adults around the country and the world.

Back in 2017 when Trump first took office, I expressed my concern that Trump and his cronies would go so far that they would end up opening the door for the hard Left to return without having to improve in any way. Right now that definitely looks like a possibility.

What I hate to see is America either (a) being made to look juvenile, immoral and stupid, or (b) being EXPOSED as being juvenile, immoral and stupid.

This has never been about politics for me, and it has never been about Trump for me It's about US. And no matter how many times I say it, MAGA just doesn't get it.
You've always come across as a level-headed thinker even if we haven't always agreed. I appreciate the fact that there are a handful of posters on this site (and in the USA, generally) who are legitimately concerned about the direction our nation is headed.

But as I've said in other threads, Empires come and Empires go. History tells us that they have a lifespan. America has survived for longer than most but I'm not sure she can be saved, at this point. I'm 65 and probably won't be around to watch America's last grasp of air. But I feel very sorry for the little babies who will have to grow up in the Globalist/AI controlled America of the future.

It's sad, in a way, but all good things must end (as the saying goes).
 
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