So in spite of the promise not to cut SS benefits

[SmokeALib]

I don't think you fundamentally understand that Trump is a mentally ill sociopath and simply cares about nobody but himself.

I don't even think Trump would be sad if his children died. He is just a terrible, dangerous person to have in the White House.

LOL!!!!!!!

 

[initforme]

We were told how social security would not be touched., period.

 

[initforme]

People live and work longer so raising the age limit was done for my age group and other age groups before mine and will again as more and more people work longer....
But no one even close to nearing retirement or in retirement will have one penny cut... so Crepitus stop with this bullshit.....

How can we be sure nobody close will be affected?

Raising the retirement age is not a cut in benefits. Using Leftist logic, Biden was planning a 20% cut in SS benefits by doing nothing to make the trust fund sustainable.

I suppose you would be against wage increases across the board as well?

Only for when I could sign up for full or maximum payments... but it made sure I could still have SS at all... money doesn't grow on trees kid.... when a nation is 37 trillion in debt. everything gets affected... that is why you should support DOGE....

We were specifically told social security would NOT be affected though.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

We were told how social security would not be touched., period.

Exactly!
Exhaust the Trust Fund and benefits shrink.
No touching required.

 

[mikegriffith1]

SS will be saved by Trump... you watch... I really think the more time that passes the more moderate democrats will start to appreciate Trump...

The same thing happened with Chris Christie in NJ when he imposed long-overdue reforms on the state's pension system. His reforms included some reductions in benefits and lower cost-of-living adjustments, but he saved the system for years to come, and eventually even many union members understood that his actions had been necessary. People came to understand that previous politicians had over-promised, had made promises that were simply unrealistic.

The same thing goes for SS. In 1950, there were 20 workers for every 1 SS recipient. In 2005, when Bush offered some sane SS reforms that the Dems sabotaged, there were 3.3 workers for every 1 SS recipient. You get the idea. This is unsustainable. There has got to be some reduction in benefits for people aged 55 and younger, along with other reforms, or the system is going to collapse.

 

[ReinyDays]

Covid-19 gave us a reprieve ... so many elderly died ... maybe vaccines are the problem ... better yet, just make SS recipients pay their own medical bills ... the ER is for tax-payers only ...

We can test this by killing all white men over the age of 45 ... see if that improves things ...

 

[berg80]

Instead of offering a plan, the Biden Administration has weakened the program’s finances.

That's a lie. Biden advocated for raising the taxable income limit for SS taxes.

 

[Mac-7]

That's a lie. Biden advocated for raising the taxable income limit for SS taxes.

Libs want to rob the rich and give it to the poor

Each worker should pay for their own retirement

 

[initforme]

Libs want to rob the rich and give it to the poor

Each worker should pay for their own retirement

Workers do pay for their own retirement. They pay into social security. I'm wondering if there is an effort to keep people in the workforce longer, which of course is bad for the nation.

 

[Mac-7]

Workers do pay for their own retirement. They pay into social security. I'm wondering if there is an effort to keep people in the workforce longer, which of course is bad for the nation.

Libs want some people to pay more and get less than others

Thats wrong

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Workers do pay for their own retirement. They pay into social security. I'm wondering if there is an effort to keep people in the workforce longer, which of course is bad for the nation.

People being more productive, for a longer time, is good for the nation, of course.

 

[DGS49]

The "promise," such as it was, was that no one currently receiving SS benefits would have his benefits reduced. That promise stands today. Those benefits will never be reduced.

HOWEVER, in order to sustain the "Trust Fund" for everyone will retire in the future, some changes are needed. First, of course is the increase in income subject to the payroll tax - maybe even eliminating the cap altogether - but it is also necessary to incrementally increase the retirement age. This has been going on for a long time, and lifespans continue to increase.

I could not get "full" retirement at age 65 as my father did, and my son will probably have to work until 70 to collect full benefits. But his generation will live many years longer than mine. Do the math.

An increase in the retirement age is not a cut in benefits. More importantly, SS is unlike other Federal entitlements in that Congress is PROHIBITED from spending General Revenue funds on SS benefits, so the fund MUST remain solvent, or it will revert to a pay-go system, which WILL reduce benefits by 20-25%. This stuff ain't complicated.

 

[Mac-7]

The "promise," such as it was, was that no one currently receiving SS benefits would have his benefits reduced. That promise stands today. Those benefits will never be reduced.

HOWEVER, in order to sustain the "Trust Fund" for everyone will retire in the future, some changes are needed. First, of course is the increase in income subject to the payroll tax - maybe even eliminating the cap altogether - but it is also necessary to incrementally increase the retirement age. This has been going on for a long time, and lifespans continue to increase.

I could not get "full" retirement at age 65 as my father did, and my son will probably have to work until 70 to collect full benefits. But his generation will live many years longer than mine. Do the math.

An increase in the retirement age is not a cut in benefits. More importantly, SS is unlike other Federal entitlements in that Congress is PROHIBITED from spending General Revenue funds on SS benefits, so the fund MUST remain solvent, or it will revert to a pay-go system, which WILL reduce benefits by 20-25%. This stuff ain't complicated.

The "promise," such as it was, was that no one currently receiving SS benefits would have his benefits reduced.

Exactly

A fact that libs overlook

 

[initforme]

People being more productive, for a longer time, is good for the nation, of course.

How is is good for the nation? Imagine if more people retired out at 55. This helps businesses and creates job openings. Does some paycheck to paycheck person show up for "the good of the nation?"

 

[Zincwarrior]

But no one even close to nearing retirement or in retirement will have one penny cut

Yes, the Boomers will be just fine. Again.

 

[Mac-7]

How is is good for the nation? Imagine if more people retired out at 55. This helps businesses and creates job openings. Does some paycheck to paycheck person show up for "the good of the nation?"

I guess if SS was not struggling to avoid bankruptcy that might be ok

But the system is not flush with cash

 

[Godboy]

They have produced a budget that cuts SS benefits.

And yes, raising the retirement age is a cut to your benefits.

Look here to see how many are affected in your district.

House Republican Budget Plans Would Cut Social Security Benefits

The Republican Study Committee, which represents nearly 80 percent of House Republicans and 100 percent of House Republican leadership, has released a 2025 budget that would make Republican plans to gut Social Security a reality. By forcing Americans to work longer for less, their budget would...

democrats-budget.house.gov

You better pray that they fix SS now because, we are fucked if they dont. If we do nothing, you can kiss your SS benefits goodbye. It will become insolvent in a few more years.

 

[Mac-7]

You better pray that they fix SS now because, we are fucked if they dont. If we do nothing, you can kiss your SS benefits goodbye. It will become insolvent in a few more years.

The radical left has a solution

Its called soak the rich

 

[Rawley]

Wanna save the program then

A. Stop raiding it.

B. remove the billionaire cap.

They took years of benefits from you to keep the billionaires happy.

Were you beaten by a billionaire at point in your life?

 

[Frankenstein]

Hmm? Why is it Social Security is not sustainable, I put the money in! Stop taking it, give me my money with 10% annual interest since you tarted taking it, and I will opt out with a lump sum!