So democrats do in fact advocate socialism

[Moonglow]

Just like the commie.....Make "freedom" contingent upon the looters from The State getting their protection racket payola.

wanker

you really are fixated with communist, a dying economical sytem that was purely a reaction to serfdom, by the proletariat, against the rich which had the means of owning production.
Communism was really dying after Lenin died and Stalin the Bolshevic came to power.

Sanctimonious swill, coming from an admitted black marketeer.

the two are mutually exclusive. Are you intellecually capable of debating or just a rude ******?

 

[Neotrotsky]

As a percentage of GDP, the US debt is less than European countries

I believe for modern countries, Japan has the highest Debt/ GDP ratios

The International Monetary Fund disagrees.

IMF debt to GDP Ratio

Germany 74.3
USA 92.7

List of sovereign states by public debt - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Read your own chart

Guess it depends on which stats you want to use


How about the First column ?
% of GDP

US 58.9
Gemany 78.8


Indeed, according to CIA World Fact book
% of GDP
Germany 78.8
US 53.3



You said we are the biggest debtor nation in the world
Total dollars amounts- sure- but we are the largest economy in the world


Don't get me wrong, the US debt is horrific and per capita
were screwed and their is no way the US can keep this
level of debt going. But to imply Europe is type of "dream"
land where socialism made everything perfect
is far from the truth
It almost started to sound like a Obama campaign

EUROPE'S FINANCIAL CRISIS

The main point is that Europe suffers from the same ills as we do.
As you can see debt to GDP, show that are just as
bad as the US in their debt. Japan is number one
in either set of data.

Europe is going broke and has a low birth rate.
In fact you see the countries cutting back on their
gov't programs. Germany ,Britain, France
In fact, any success Germany has of late is due
to pulling away from socialism
What Germany Knows About Debt

Europe is far from a dream world

I notice the Left never talks about the PIGS.

I would say the the PIGS Portugal, Italy, Greece & Spain
are examples of all this fine socialism coming to a head

 

[SFC Ollie]

I guess asking all these socialist loving posters to move to a socialist country would be a waste of time.......

But you never know..............

Hey, all you socialist lovers, Why don't you move to a socialist country? You can update us every 5 or 6 years on how things are going.....

 

[thereisnospoon]

make me.

You Lefties see the wares of others and spend half of your time feeling bitter about it.
The other half is spent trying to figure out ways to get it from them.
Yours is the ultimate in greed.

 

[thereisnospoon]

i am retired. I operated form 1977 - 2001. Never busted.

Oh, a retired criminal.

That'll really give a bump to your credibility.

your only a crimminal if you get caught, all others are respected business people.

You're wrong. A criminal act is a criminal act. Those responsible are not at fault for the punishment received. The actor is at fault.
BTW, you're full of shit.
You can go on telling this board you are a former drug dealer or contract assassin.
Nobody believes you.
You may now bluster away.
Nobody cares.

 

[thereisnospoon]

govt budgets are not the same as a corporate budget. I doubt they would listen to me. its' like being on a jury panel and you can't get the majority to agree. it has nothing to do with not knowing how to budget, it is more about not being able to compromise.

Oh and you're not only a former drug pusher, you're an Olympic wrestler.
And my ancestors were on the Mayflower.

 

[Mr. Shaman]

So democrats do in fact advocate socialism

No.....it's Republicans who insist on giving federal-subsidies to (already) profitable oil-companies & for-profit health-insurance companies.

I guess you haven't heard, yet.​

 

[thereisnospoon]

As the population continues to grow, the demand for socialism will increase. Capitalism fails because it is unorganized and always in chaos. There is no central guidance, except those supplied by gov. socialist programs, like the commodity market to set prices, which defeats competition of capitalism.

You think the commodity market is an example of socialism?

Government always fails. The past 3 years and the current circus over raising the debt ceiling are indisputible proof of that.

Yes, I do. It stifles the free market exercise and keeps prices artificially inflated so consumers have to pay more, and capitalism fails.

If raising the debt ceiling is proof of failure, capitalism has been failing for a long time. Times of bailouts through the Bush presidency, as he borrowed us into deeper debt while giving tax cuts during two wars. Unheard of, huh?

Your post is absurd.
What say you when commodities prices fall? To whom goes the blame for that? The "anti-speculators"?
Look genius. If commodities such as oil, gas, sugar, cattle, etc were not traded on an open market a group or some other entity would have the duty to fix prices.
Now just who's interest would be served if prices were fixed?
Consider your answer carefully.
Now, let's say for a moment we change to a socialist system. At that time all earnings and wealth become the property of the federal government. Then what? All is well?