So Climatechangevangelistas... if global warming was caused by fossil fuels what damage are wind turbines?

[healthmyths]

Utility-scale large wind farms are rapidly growing in size and numbers all over the world.
Data from a meteorological field campaign show that such wind farms can significantly affect near-surface air temperatures. These effects result from enhanced vertical mixing due to turbulence generated by wind turbine rotors
Data from the field campaign show that near-surface air temperatures downwind of the wind farm are higher than upwind regions during night and early morning hours, whereas the reverse holds true for the rest of the day (Fig. 2A). Thus, this wind farm has a warming effect during the night and a cooling effect during the day.

https://www.pnas.org/doi/full/10.1073/pnas.1000493107#:~:text=Data%20from%20a%20meteorological%20field,generated%20by%20wind%20turbine%20rotors.

Anyone concerned about the warming of the earth's temperature?

 

[konradv]

Utility-scale large wind farms are rapidly growing in size and numbers all over the world.
Data from a meteorological field campaign show that such wind farms can significantly affect near-surface air temperatures. These effects result from enhanced vertical mixing due to turbulence generated by wind turbine rotors
Data from the field campaign show that near-surface air temperatures downwind of the wind farm are higher than upwind regions during night and early morning hours, whereas the reverse holds true for the rest of the day (Fig. 2A). Thus, this wind farm has a warming effect during the night and a cooling effect during the day.

https://www.pnas.org/doi/full/10.1073/pnas.1000493107#:~:text=Data%20from%20a%20meteorological%20field,generated%20by%20wind%20turbine%20rotors.

Anyone concerned about the warming of the earth's temperature?

How would turbines raise the temperature? They’re designed to take energy from the atmosphere in the form of the air’s kinetic energy. Removing energy lowers the temperature of a system. You’ve got to look at the whole thing, not just downwind.

 

[kyzr]

How would turbines raise the temperature? They’re designed to take energy from the atmosphere in the form of the air’s kinetic energy. Removing energy lowers the temperature of a system. You’ve got to look at the whole thing, not just downwind.

1. I agree with you that wind turbines do not affect the air temperature, they just extract some energy from the moving air.

2. From the closed thread. The appeals will overturn those 34 bullshit "felonies".

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The Judge
The Charges
The Evidence
The Instructions
The Immunity

 

[marvin martian]

How would turbines raise the temperature? They’re designed to take energy from the atmosphere in the form of the air’s kinetic energy. Removing energy lowers the temperature of a system. You’ve got to look at the whole thing, not just downwind.

How much concrete does it take to anchor those huge turbines?

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Nope, not worried about warm temperatures in the slightest. There's nothing we can do to alter the changes that are occurring in the sun. Its the height of arrogance to think that man can affect a planetary atmosphere.

 

[Lesh]

Utility-scale large wind farms are rapidly growing in size and numbers all over the world.
Data from a meteorological field campaign show that such wind farms can significantly affect near-surface air temperatures. These effects result from enhanced vertical mixing due to turbulence generated by wind turbine rotors
Data from the field campaign show that near-surface air temperatures downwind of the wind farm are higher than upwind regions during night and early morning hours, whereas the reverse holds true for the rest of the day (Fig. 2A). Thus, this wind farm has a warming effect during the night and a cooling effect during the day.

https://www.pnas.org/doi/full/10.1073/pnas.1000493107#:~:text=Data%20from%20a%20meteorological%20field,generated%20by%20wind%20turbine%20rotors.

Anyone concerned about the warming of the earth's temperature?

Warming at night and cooling during the day.

Sounds like it cancels out

 

[Lesh]

How much concrete does it take to anchor those huge turbines?

ANY form of energy producing plant is going to have an impact.

How much concrete is there in nuke plants and fossil fuel plants?

 

[healthmyths]

Researchers report the most accurate modelling yet of how increasing wind power would affect climate, finding that large-scale wind power generation would warm the Continental United States 0.24 degrees Celsius because wind turbines redistribute heat in the atmosphere.

Large-scale US wind power would cause warming that would take roughly a century to offset

Extracting energy from the wind causes climatic impacts that are small compared to current projections of 21st century warming, but large compared to the effect of reducing US electricity emissions to zero with solar. Researchers report the most accurate modelling yet of how increasing wind...

www.sciencedaily.com

Studies Show Wind Farms Raise Temperatures, And Impact Could Become Significant As More Are Built​

Multiple studies have found that wind farms raise temperatures at the ground level. While the effect is small, as more wind farms are built, it could become a significant and sustained problem.

Studies Show Wind Farms Raise Temperatures, And Impact Could Become Significant As More Are Built

Multiple studies have found that wind farms raise temperatures at the ground level. While the effect is small, as more wind farms are built, it could…

cowboystatedaily.com

The study looks at what would happen if the United States tried to obtain all of its energy from wind turbines. It found the mixing of warmer air and cooler air results in a temperature increase of 0.54 degrees Celsius (0.97 degrees F) in the areas where the wind turbines would be located. The amount of warming experienced in some regions would be even greater, as Southwestern Minnesota could see a temperature increase of 0.6-0.8 degrees C due to wind turbines, while Northeastern Minnesota would see an increase of 0.3-0.5 degrees C.

Do Wind Turbines Contribute To Global Warming?

Wind energy facilities have grown in popularity as one method to reduce fossil fuel use, but does extracting energy from the wind, actually cause the planet to gain warmth? Wind has always cooled the earth, but as more wind energy is harvested, does this inadvertently increase the globe’s temperatur

www.linkedin.com

So much for 1.5° C increase in global warming!

 

[Doc7505]

1. I agree with you that wind turbines do not affect the air temperature, they just extract some energy from the moving air.

2. From the closed thread. The appeals will overturn those 34 bullshit "felonies".

Buzz Kill: The Trump Conviction Presents a Target-Rich Environment for Appeal

Below is my column in the Hill on the most compelling grounds for an appeal in the Trump case after his conviction on 34 counts in Manhattan. There has been considerable criticism of the defense te…

jonathanturley.org

The Judge
The Charges
The Evidence
The Instructions
The Immunity

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All true, but is the destruction value of the ecology worth the use of wind turbines. Birds, bats and whales seem to be affected by the sounds emitted by wind turbiines.

Wind Energy & Environmental Impacts

www.umces.edu

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Offshore wind farms may harm seabirds, but scientists see potential for net positive impact

A new study presents a framework for assessing and mitigating the impacts of offshore wind energy development on marine birds.

news.ucsc.edu

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https://www.nationalacademies.org/news/2023/10/impact-of-nantucket-wind-projects-on-right-whale-ecosystems-difficult-to-distinguish-from-effects-of-climate-change-and-other-influences-says-new-report

 

[SurferH2O]

We are absolutely stupid for focusing on wind power when modern nuclear plants are a far superior option with better results.

 

[Lesh]

Researchers report the most accurate modelling yet of how increasing wind power would affect climate, finding that large-scale wind power generation would warm the Continental United States 0.24 degrees Celsius because wind turbines redistribute heat in the atmosphere.

Large-scale US wind power would cause warming that would take roughly a century to offset

Extracting energy from the wind causes climatic impacts that are small compared to current projections of 21st century warming, but large compared to the effect of reducing US electricity emissions to zero with solar. Researchers report the most accurate modelling yet of how increasing wind...

www.sciencedaily.com

Studies Show Wind Farms Raise Temperatures, And Impact Could Become Significant As More Are Built​

Multiple studies have found that wind farms raise temperatures at the ground level. While the effect is small, as more wind farms are built, it could become a significant and sustained problem.

Studies Show Wind Farms Raise Temperatures, And Impact Could Become Significant As More Are Built

Multiple studies have found that wind farms raise temperatures at the ground level. While the effect is small, as more wind farms are built, it could…

cowboystatedaily.com

The study looks at what would happen if the United States tried to obtain all of its energy from wind turbines. It found the mixing of warmer air and cooler air results in a temperature increase of 0.54 degrees Celsius (0.97 degrees F) in the areas where the wind turbines would be located. The amount of warming experienced in some regions would be even greater, as Southwestern Minnesota could see a temperature increase of 0.6-0.8 degrees C due to wind turbines, while Northeastern Minnesota would see an increase of 0.3-0.5 degrees C.

Do Wind Turbines Contribute To Global Warming?

Wind energy facilities have grown in popularity as one method to reduce fossil fuel use, but does extracting energy from the wind, actually cause the planet to gain warmth? Wind has always cooled the earth, but as more wind energy is harvested, does this inadvertently increase the globe’s temperatur

www.linkedin.com

So much for 1.5° C increase in global warming!

Fact Check: No, wind turbines do not cause global warming | ACP

A new study is sowing confusion about wind's carbon reduction benefits. Here are the facts you need to know.

cleanpower.org

They do not create heat. They redistribute it.

Fossil plants create heat. Those steam clouds you see rising above fossil fuel and nuke plants are heat created by those plants.

Wind turbines don’t do that

 

[Delldude]

How would turbines raise the temperature? They’re designed to take energy from the atmosphere in the form of the air’s kinetic energy. Removing energy lowers the temperature of a system. You’ve got to look at the whole thing, not just downwind.

Maybe read the OP's article?

 

[healthmyths]

Fact Check: No, wind turbines do not cause global warming | ACP

A new study is sowing confusion about wind's carbon reduction benefits. Here are the facts you need to know.

cleanpower.org

They do not create heat. They redistribute it.

Fossil plants create heat. Those steam clouds you see rising above fossil fuel and nuke plants are heat created by those plants.

Wind turbines don’t do that

Tell your expert opinion to these people!
Wind farms can affect local circulation and regional weather; if sufficiently large, they may even alter the structure of weather systems like low-level jets (Larsén and Fischereit). Using remote sensing, Christiansen and Hasager reported that as wind flow passed through large arrays of wind turbines, the mean wind speed was reduced by 8–9% and wake length could exceed 20 km. Wang and Prinn4 suggested that large-scale wind farms can increase global precipitation by 10% in some areas; however, the overall changes were not significant

Impacts of offshore wind farms on the atmospheric environment over Taiwan Strait during an extreme weather typhoon event - Scientific Reports

Wind is one of the cleanest renewable energy resources. Through the “Thousand Wind Turbines Project”, Taiwan is planning to increase the proportion of power generation from renewable energy and has set a target of 5.7 GW for offshore wind by 2025. The effects of future offshore wind farms (OWFs)...

www.nature.com

 

[konradv]

Maybe read the OP's article?

Maybe learn some science? My argument doesn’t require I read the article, since the premise is absurd.

#LOINFO

 

[konradv]

How much concrete does it take to anchor those huge turbines?

One time!

#ECONOMICS101

 

[healthmyths]

Maybe learn some science? My argument doesn’t require I read the article, since the premise is absurd.

#LOINFO

It's important to remember that scientists always focus on the evidence, not on opinions.
So are you like these early scientists?
Many believed the sun revolved around the Earth, with the ancient Greek scholar Ptolemy formalizing this "geocentric" model in 150 B.C.

Earth's sun: Facts about the sun's age, size and history

Earth's sun is revealing its secrets thanks to a fleet of missions designed to study it.

www.space.com

 

[Delldude]

Maybe learn some science? My argument doesn’t require I read the article, since the premise is absurd.

#LOINFO

#DAIN BRAMAGE?

Brainwashed, eh?

 

[konradv]

It's important to remember that scientists always focus on the evidence, not on opinions.
So are you like these early scientists?
Many believed the sun revolved around the Earth, with the ancient Greek scholar Ptolemy formalizing this "geocentric" model in 150 B.C.

Earth's sun: Facts about the sun's age, size and history

Earth's sun is revealing its secrets thanks to a fleet of missions designed to study it.

www.space.com

Wind turbines taking energy out of the atmosphere is not an opinion. They create electrical energy and, because of Conservstion of Energy, it has to come from somewhere.

#WHATOPINION

 

[Lesh]

Tell your expert opinion to these people!
Wind farms can affect local circulation and regional weather; if sufficiently large, they may even alter the structure of weather systems like low-level jets (Larsén and Fischereit). Using remote sensing, Christiansen and Hasager reported that as wind flow passed through large arrays of wind turbines, the mean wind speed was reduced by 8–9% and wake length could exceed 20 km. Wang and Prinn4 suggested that large-scale wind farms can increase global precipitation by 10% in some areas; however, the overall changes were not significant

Impacts of offshore wind farms on the atmospheric environment over Taiwan Strait during an extreme weather typhoon event - Scientific Reports

Wind is one of the cleanest renewable energy resources. Through the “Thousand Wind Turbines Project”, Taiwan is planning to increase the proportion of power generation from renewable energy and has set a target of 5.7 GW for offshore wind by 2025. The effects of future offshore wind farms (OWFs)...

www.nature.com

Wind turbines do not create heat (or very little). Fossil and nuke plants create huge amounts of heat

 

[healthmyths]

Wind turbines do not create heat (or very little). Fossil and nuke plants create huge amounts of heat

Why can't you prove it? Who the hell are you? An expert in weather, or climate, and where are your studies? You are full of frigging totally uninformed!