So, CAGW activism isn't political huh...

[westwall]

Tell that to the billionaire who is trying to buy seven seats for a mere 100 million dollars. I wonder what "green" companies he has in his portfolio that he want's political help with.

So, as is typical with you....you hate billionaires until hey do something you support, then you're all lovey dovey with them.


Climate group to sink $100M in 7 races in 2014

Climate group to sink $100M in 7 races in 2014

 

[mamooth]

Westwall, using the term "CAGW" instantly reveals any person as a hardcore WUWT cultist. Hence, you should avoid using it. If you take that advice, you can more effectively pretend to not be a cultist.

Oh, nice repeat thread, by the way.

 

[Old Rocks]

Considering the money that Exxon and the Koch Bros have put into the lies that Walleyes endlessly repeats concerning the evidence for the warming and the cause of the warming, that 100 million is pretty small change. That the usual suspects are crying foul at the slightest opposition to their lies indicates the fear of what the weather this year may do to their lies.

 

[DriftingSand]

Steyer -- another 1%er backed by the Democrat Party and the limp-brained (or duped) warmists:

Steyer claims to be a man of principle who has no financial interest in the causes he supports, but acts only for the public good. Ha. Steyer depends on government connections to produce subsidies and mandates that make his “green” energy investments profitable. He also is, or was until recently, a major investor in Kinder Morgan, which is building a competitor to the Keystone pipeline.

**snip**

But hardly anyone in the U.S. knows about this, because all of his investments in coal, through Farallon, the company he founded, have been done overseas, and wherever possible, through corporate structures that make it difficult to trace their direct involvement. Powerline presents some interesting facts:

**snip**

The coal mines Steyer funded through Farallon produce an amount of CO2 each year equivalent to about 28 percent of the amount of CO2 produced in the US each year by coal burned for electricity generation.

**snip**

There’s nothing wrong with free market capitalism. But there is something very wrong with crony capitalism.

Tom Steyer and the seemingly boundless hypocrisy of liberals | Allen B. West - AllenBWest.com

 

[mamooth]

The deniers keep getting kookier. Most of them aren't even pretending to care about the science any longer. For them, it is now entirely about hating their political enemies.

 

[westwall]

The deniers keep getting kookier. Most of them aren't even pretending to care about the science any longer. For them, it is now entirely about hating their political enemies.

Sure thing mr. we don' need to talk about anything pertaining to AGW theory ever again because we KNOW everything that can ever be known, even though we can't guess as well as well known charlatans can!

 

[flacaltenn]

Considering the money that Exxon and the Koch Bros have put into the lies that Walleyes endlessly repeats concerning the evidence for the warming and the cause of the warming, that 100 million is pretty small change. That the usual suspects are crying foul at the slightest opposition to their lies indicates the fear of what the weather this year may do to their lies.

Oh.. You mean like being a major backer of the BEST study at Beserkely? Yeah real hard core agenda there. Guess that money subverts Nova on PBS also. You clowns are so primitive id be surprised if you walked upright. The gloves are off. The plan didnt work. This is Plan B.

 

[DriftingSand]

Considering the money that Exxon and the Koch Bros have put into the lies that Walleyes endlessly repeats concerning the evidence for the warming and the cause of the warming, that 100 million is pretty small change. That the usual suspects are crying foul at the slightest opposition to their lies indicates the fear of what the weather this year may do to their lies.

Hopefully, the Koch Bros. will pour 200 million into the same political battles that the turncoat, Steyers, toys with.

 

[Old Rocks]

Considering the money that Exxon and the Koch Bros have put into the lies that Walleyes endlessly repeats concerning the evidence for the warming and the cause of the warming, that 100 million is pretty small change. That the usual suspects are crying foul at the slightest opposition to their lies indicates the fear of what the weather this year may do to their lies.

Oh.. You mean like being a major backer of the BEST study at Beserkely? Yeah real hard core agenda there. Guess that money subverts Nova on PBS also. You clowns are so primitive id be surprised if you walked upright. The gloves are off. The plan didnt work. This is Plan B.

The gloves have been off for a long time. Fruitloop assholes like the fellow that ran for governor of Virginia trying to prosecute scientists for doing science. The accusations and threats against Dr. Hansen.

Yep. Koch did help fund the study at Berkeley. And then was totally surprised when the scientists gave their honest conclusions. Which were that the people warning about AGW were correct, and their data was good. And since Koch's have poured money into trying to discredit those same scientists.

Are you so simple minded that you honestly believe that people and what they do are all bad or all good? Yes, the Koch's have done good with their money. And they have also done some pretty rotten things with that fortune. Like all humans, a mix of good and bad, and only in the future will we be sure of which had the dominent effect.

 

[Old Rocks]

The deniers keep getting kookier. Most of them aren't even pretending to care about the science any longer. For them, it is now entirely about hating their political enemies.

Sure thing mr. we don' need to talk about anything pertaining to AGW theory ever again because we KNOW everything that can ever be known, even though we can't guess as well as well known charlatans can!

Fellow, you are the charlatan here.

No, we do not know everything pertaining to AGW. But we definately know enough to recognize that it is already a problem, and will be a far larger problem in the future.

 

[westwall]

The deniers keep getting kookier. Most of them aren't even pretending to care about the science any longer. For them, it is now entirely about hating their political enemies.

Sure thing mr. we don' need to talk about anything pertaining to AGW theory ever again because we KNOW everything that can ever be known, even though we can't guess as well as well known charlatans can!

Fellow, you are the charlatan here.

No, we do not know everything pertaining to AGW. But we definately know enough to recognize that it is already a problem, and will be a far larger problem in the future.

Sure you do...the "science is settled" there is nothing more to be learned according to the proclamations we have heard from you clowns for over a decade now. Remember that?

Who was it that was saying "no, there is much we don't know"? Hmmmm? Why yes....yes it was US, we deniers were the correct ones all along. Charlatans is an appellation that best suits you guys. Except.....well....charlatans actually DO get it right sometimes. You guys...not so much

 

[CrusaderFrank]

The AGWCult is controlled by a few well-heeled Progressive Socialists who want to destroy the USA. People like Soros who will sell us short to make more money

 

[CrusaderFrank]

The deniers keep getting kookier. Most of them aren't even pretending to care about the science any longer. For them, it is now entirely about hating their political enemies.

Hey Admiral, how are you making out on finding that one lab experiment that shows a temperature increase from an additional wisp of CO2, and how much CO2 does it take to lower the pH of Earth's oceans (or just the "surface" (LOL)) from 8.25 to 8.15?

No answer?

 

[flacaltenn]

Considering the money that Exxon and the Koch Bros have put into the lies that Walleyes endlessly repeats concerning the evidence for the warming and the cause of the warming, that 100 million is pretty small change. That the usual suspects are crying foul at the slightest opposition to their lies indicates the fear of what the weather this year may do to their lies.

Oh.. You mean like being a major backer of the BEST study at Beserkely? Yeah real hard core agenda there. Guess that money subverts Nova on PBS also. You clowns are so primitive id be surprised if you walked upright. The gloves are off. The plan didnt work. This is Plan B.

The gloves have been off for a long time. Fruitloop assholes like the fellow that ran for governor of Virginia trying to prosecute scientists for doing science. The accusations and threats against Dr. Hansen.

Yep. Koch did help fund the study at Berkeley. And then was totally surprised when the scientists gave their honest conclusions. Which were that the people warning about AGW were correct, and their data was good. And since Koch's have poured money into trying to discredit those same scientists.

Are you so simple minded that you honestly believe that people and what they do are all bad or all good? Yes, the Koch's have done good with their money. And they have also done some pretty rotten things with that fortune. Like all humans, a mix of good and bad, and only in the future will we be sure of which had the dominent effect.

It's pretty evident RIGHT NOW that Koch money has provided more enrichment and enjoyment and saved more lives than Congress has in the past 10 years..

Really like to see ANY evidence that those BEST authors at Beserkely were targeted SPECIFICALLY by any Koch... That's just part of the conspiracy theory you've been buying into..

 

[CrusaderFrank]

The deniers keep getting kookier. Most of them aren't even pretending to care about the science any longer. For them, it is now entirely about hating their political enemies.

Sure thing mr. we don' need to talk about anything pertaining to AGW theory ever again because we KNOW everything that can ever be known, even though we can't guess as well as well known charlatans can!

Fellow, you are the charlatan here.

No, we do not know everything pertaining to AGW. But we definately know enough to recognize that it is already a problem, and will be a far larger problem in the future.

All we know for certain is that you've never once produced an experiment showing a temperature increase from a 200PPM change in CO2

Not Once

Not One Single Time

 

[Crick]

Have you been able to show that the world is NOT actually warming?
Have you been able to find some OTHER cause for the warming than human GHG emissions?
Is there anything else to consider?

No, no and no.

 

[Crick]

All we know for certain is that you've never once produced an experiment showing a temperature increase from a 200PPM change in CO2

Not Once

Not One Single Time

Two controls against 350 ppm CO2 and 1800 ppb methane

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPRd5GT0v0I]Mythbusters tests global warming theory - does CO2 warm air? - YouTube[/ame]

 

[jc456]

All we know for certain is that you've never once produced an experiment showing a temperature increase from a 200PPM change in CO2

Not Once

Not One Single Time

Two controls against 350 ppm CO2

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPRd5GT0v0I]Mythbusters tests global warming theory - does CO2 warm air? - YouTube[/ame]

Dude, this is the one I've been using as my evidence that an increase of CO2 will not cause additional warming. If you really listened to what they said, you would have heard them say they increased the methane and the CO2 in minute increments and the temperature remained steady at 1 degree above control. Meaning, that adding the CO2 and methane made a 1 degree difference, but as they added more, the temperature in the methane and CO2 never incrementally went up. So the more CO2 added did not increase the temperature. And the methane was the same as the CO2 at parts per billion.

 

[Crick]

You need to listen to it one more time. Gas levels were raised to 350 ppm CO2 and 1800 ppb methane and then left there. The temperatures in the CO2 and methane chambers climbed a degree above the control chambers and remained there.

The stated conclusion at the end of the video was the CO2 and methane did produce a greenhouse effect and caused warming.

 

[jc456]

You need to listen to it one more time. Gas levels were raised to 350 ppm CO2 and 1800 ppb methane and then left there. The temperatures in the CO2 and methane chambers climbed a degree above the control chambers and remained there.

The stated conclusion at the end of the video was the CO2 and methane did produce a greenhouse effect and caused warming.

Just so I'm clear, you listened to them state "minutely accurate increments" comment in the video right? Then they made the comment that the temperature in the greenhouse gas chambers remained a consistent 1 degree difference to the control. I don't understand the reason for the statement about "minutely accurate increments" if they were merely putting in 350PPM and 1800PPB in to take a reading. Their statement for me implies the temperature was one degree higher throughout the tests. Which includes during the "minutely accurately increments".