Smoking Bans

[auditor0007]

I smoked for 40+ yrs. Loved it.
I've been smoke free for 3-4yr. now. Hate it.
Smokers are as much a part of the public as anyone and deserve to be accommodated no less than rabid health Nazis. Public places should offer smoking areas by law.

So you are the exact opposite on the Liberty poll. You think Business should be forced to have smoking area's.........

(smokers think that 10 feet of area space can dissipate smoke. I remember when I was young and smoked and thought rolling my moms windows down meant she wouldn't know..........but some people learn)

You can't FORCE a business to contain customers in a place known to cause cancer. You can be free to in some cities, but those days are ending.

Smokers where I work go outside to the smoking area. I can smell their cigarette smoke from 100 feet away outside. It's nauseating.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

I smoked for 40+ yrs. Loved it.

The damage is done then. Smoke 'em up.

Much of the damage can be reversed, even after such a long time. I smoked for 32 years. I quit three years ago. At 51, I can run a 5k in under 22 minutes. I run about 25 miles per week. My risk for lung cancer will always be slightly greater than that of a lifetime non-smoker, but compared to a smoker, my chances are minuscule.

Keep telling yourself that.

I smoke and I will run, lift or swim you under the table. I lift and bike regularly & I still smoke.

The damage is cumulative. If you smoked that long the damage is there you just don't know it. Having said that it doesn't mean you'll get cancer. Ny great grandmother smoked & drank till her late 90's and never got it

 

[auditor0007]

The damage is done then. Smoke 'em up.

Much of the damage can be reversed, even after such a long time. I smoked for 32 years. I quit three years ago. At 51, I can run a 5k in under 22 minutes. I run about 25 miles per week. My risk for lung cancer will always be slightly greater than that of a lifetime non-smoker, but compared to a smoker, my chances are minuscule.

Keep telling yourself that.

I smoke and I will run, lift or swim you under the table. I lift and bike regularly & I still smoke.

The damage is cumulative. If you smoked that long the damage is there you just don't know it. Having said that it doesn't mean you'll get cancer. Ny great grandmother smoked & drank till her late 90's and never got it

Have another drink gramps, you can say whatever you want, but you know there is no way you could run a 5k in 22 minutes. That is about a seven minute per mile pace. When I quit and started running, I couldn't make it around the block. If you've been smoking as long as I did, you couldn't even finish a 5K. And as for the damage, I will go by what my doctors say rather than your misinformed opinion.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Much of the damage can be reversed, even after such a long time. I smoked for 32 years. I quit three years ago. At 51, I can run a 5k in under 22 minutes. I run about 25 miles per week. My risk for lung cancer will always be slightly greater than that of a lifetime non-smoker, but compared to a smoker, my chances are minuscule.

Keep telling yourself that.

I smoke and I will run, lift or swim you under the table. I lift and bike regularly & I still smoke.

The damage is cumulative. If you smoked that long the damage is there you just don't know it. Having said that it doesn't mean you'll get cancer. Ny great grandmother smoked & drank till her late 90's and never got it

Have another drink gramps, you can say whatever you want, but you know there is no way you could run a 5k in 22 minutes. That is about a seven minute per mile pace. When I quit and started running, I couldn't make it around the block. If you've been smoking as long as I did, you couldn't even finish a 5K. And as for the damage, I will go by what my doctors say rather than your misinformed opinion.

I could not do it in that time but I could come close. And it's not an uninformed opinion, it's my experience. People die of lung cancer who've never smoked. My mother has black lungs and she's smoked less than me. The damage is done, like it or not. Can you recover some lung cells? Sure. But if you're my age and have smoked all your adult life it really matters not.

I smoke
I drink
I run
I bike
I swim
I lift
I dont sleep right
I enjoy life
I don't care


Whatever happens, happens. I don't need an excuse or diagnosis. It is what it is and I'm going to enjoy the ride. End of story

 

[Politico]

Of course there is, it is a perfectly legal activity. What compelling government interest is there in banning it on private property or outside?

The compelling interest of the leftytoon Socialists to dictate what you can and cannot do.

 

[AvgGuyIA]

Nonsense.

There's no 'right' to smoke.

Of course there is, it is a perfectly legal activity. What compelling government interest is there in banning it on private property or outside?

Workplace safety, although if you get outside far enough the only thing to worry about is fire. I was in a huge park in CA a few years ago, and had to chew on cigar instead of smoking it. It was a no-smoking park. Oh well, I smoked at home by the pool, and I survived...

Sone people like to be told what they're allowed to do; some of us don't.

 

[jillian]

Nonsense.

There's no 'right' to smoke.

no. there isn't, nor should there be. saying so is just whining and stamping his foot.

that said, it's a legal activity and i do think businesses should be allowed to have smoking sections if they choose to.

it's also interesting to see that this is where most people seem to fall, at least in this poss. interestingly, the number of people who so far say it should be business choice is right now almost twice the number of the other categories put together.... not that it's a scientific poll, but i do think it's interesting.

 

[rightwinger]

You have a choice to smoke or not

I do not have a choice to breathe or not

 

[rightwinger]

Nonsense.

There's no 'right' to smoke.

no. there isn't, nor should there be. saying so is just whining and stamping his foot.

that said, it's a legal activity and i do think businesses should be allowed to have smoking sections if they choose to.
it's also interesting to see that this is where most people seem to fall, at least in this poss. interestingly, the number of people who so far say it should be business choice is right now almost twice the number of the other categories put together.... not that it's a scientific poll, but i do think it's interesting.

Having a smoking section is like having a peeing section in a pool

 

[Skull Pilot]

If a business wants to allow smoking that's fine with me.

People can look for jobs at nonsmoking businesses if they want and customers can patronize businesses that ban smoking as well.

Freedom of choice. Period.

 

[rightwinger]

After watching a story on the news about banning smoking in public areas- including businesses- forcibly, I realized how wrong that is. On government property- ie streets and government buildings like courthouses- the government should have the ability to ban it. But for privately owned businesses, they should be given the ability to choose. If they ban smoking, smokers can simply go elsewhere. If smoking is allowed, and offends people, said customers can use their competitors instead. As such, a business owner can then allow/disallow smoking if it would help their business. Government doesn't have a right to mandate businesses to ban something, even if it is for "the public's safety". Even that could be disproved by showing that smoking inside a building where everyone is okay with it does not harm those who actually care. And enviromentalists will now proceed to ask about factories pumping pollutants into the atmosphere and try to apply my logic to that. That is a different case, simply because potentially harmful pollutants are being put directly into the atmosphere, whereas smoking in a restaurant hasn't killed anyone walking in the street outside, as far as I know.

Apparently you are not aware that second hand smoke can lead to lung cancer. The right of the non-smoker to breath clean air outweighs any right a smoker has to smoke in every single instance except one, and that is the smokers home, if the smoker owns that home and it is free standing and has no other units above, below, or beside it.

It is more than lung cancer.....Smokers Stink

Why should I have to go out to a public place and come back with my hair and clothes stinking of tobacco?

 

[Skull Pilot]

After watching a story on the news about banning smoking in public areas- including businesses- forcibly, I realized how wrong that is. On government property- ie streets and government buildings like courthouses- the government should have the ability to ban it. But for privately owned businesses, they should be given the ability to choose. If they ban smoking, smokers can simply go elsewhere. If smoking is allowed, and offends people, said customers can use their competitors instead. As such, a business owner can then allow/disallow smoking if it would help their business. Government doesn't have a right to mandate businesses to ban something, even if it is for "the public's safety". Even that could be disproved by showing that smoking inside a building where everyone is okay with it does not harm those who actually care. And enviromentalists will now proceed to ask about factories pumping pollutants into the atmosphere and try to apply my logic to that. That is a different case, simply because potentially harmful pollutants are being put directly into the atmosphere, whereas smoking in a restaurant hasn't killed anyone walking in the street outside, as far as I know.

Apparently you are not aware that second hand smoke can lead to lung cancer. The right of the non-smoker to breath clean air outweighs any right a smoker has to smoke in every single instance except one, and that is the smokers home, if the smoker owns that home and it is free standing and has no other units above, below, or beside it.

It is more than lung cancer.....Smokers Stink

Why should I have to go out to a public place and come back with my hair and clothes stinking of tobacco?

You don't have to patronize establishments that allow smoking do you?

 

[jillian]

After watching a story on the news about banning smoking in public areas- including businesses- forcibly, I realized how wrong that is. On government property- ie streets and government buildings like courthouses- the government should have the ability to ban it. But for privately owned businesses, they should be given the ability to choose. If they ban smoking, smokers can simply go elsewhere. If smoking is allowed, and offends people, said customers can use their competitors instead. As such, a business owner can then allow/disallow smoking if it would help their business. Government doesn't have a right to mandate businesses to ban something, even if it is for "the public's safety". Even that could be disproved by showing that smoking inside a building where everyone is okay with it does not harm those who actually care. And enviromentalists will now proceed to ask about factories pumping pollutants into the atmosphere and try to apply my logic to that. That is a different case, simply because potentially harmful pollutants are being put directly into the atmosphere, whereas smoking in a restaurant hasn't killed anyone walking in the street outside, as far as I know.

Apparently you are not aware that second hand smoke can lead to lung cancer. The right of the non-smoker to breath clean air outweighs any right a smoker has to smoke in every single instance except one, and that is the smokers home, if the smoker owns that home and it is free standing and has no other units above, below, or beside it.

It is more than lung cancer.....Smokers Stink

Why should I have to go out to a public place and come back with my hair and clothes stinking of tobacco?

you shouldn't. but you can choose not to frequent a business where you would end up smelling like that. i hate that smell, btw. and, as an ex-smoker, i NEVER want my hair and clothes to smell that way. that, however, doesn't mean there shouldn't be ANY place for smokers to congregate and engage in a lawful activity.

 

[hazlnut]

Smokers fighting for their rights will likely die before me -- icing on the cake of bans against their disgusting habit.

 

[jillian]

Smokers fighting for their rights will likely die before me -- icing on the cake of bans against their disgusting habit.

you don't have any right not to be offended by things other people do i think if businesses choose,you can certainly choose to frequent non-smoking facilities. if i owned a restaurant, it probably would be. but that doesn't mean others' shouldn't.

there are lots of disgusting habits.

 

[rightwinger]

Apparently you are not aware that second hand smoke can lead to lung cancer. The right of the non-smoker to breath clean air outweighs any right a smoker has to smoke in every single instance except one, and that is the smokers home, if the smoker owns that home and it is free standing and has no other units above, below, or beside it.

It is more than lung cancer.....Smokers Stink

Why should I have to go out to a public place and come back with my hair and clothes stinking of tobacco?

You don't have to patronize establishments that allow smoking do you?

I have a right to patronize any business establishment

If there is one bowling alley in town, I don't have an option to "bowl somewhere else"
If I am attending a party or social gathering, I don't have an option to go elsewhere

As a smoker, you don't have a right to spew your filth anywhere you please

 

[Skull Pilot]

It is more than lung cancer.....Smokers Stink

Why should I have to go out to a public place and come back with my hair and clothes stinking of tobacco?

You don't have to patronize establishments that allow smoking do you?

I have a right to patronize any business establishment

If there is one bowling alley in town, I don't have an option to "bowl somewhere else"
If I am attending a party or social gathering, I don't have an option to go elsewhere

As a smoker, you don't have a right to spew your filth anywhere you please

I'm not a smoker.

And you have a right to patronize or to not patronize a business that allows smoking.

And you always have options unless you live on a desert island. Why does it always have to be about you? You must be selfish

 

[rightwinger]

Why should any customer be subjected to the filth being voluntarily spewed by another customer?

 

[initforme]

This is a dicey one but I would think a smart business owner would not want smokers clogging up his/her air where they serve other customers. I would think the majority of people are not smokers as they are now educated into the dangers of messing with one's ability to take in oxygen. That's the first question a doctor asks during a routine visit now... do you smoke? THere's a reason for that.

 

[Zmrzlina]

An individual's right to smoke ends at another's lungs.