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The subject is small business, regulations and obamacare.American corporations are already sitting on billions of dollars in profits they're not investing in the American economy. What will happen is this money will be repatriated, and paid out in dividends to the stockholders, since this cash certainly isn't needed to fund jobs here. Corporations have more than enough cash from their American operations to do that.
American corporations are already sitting on billions of dollars in profits they're not investing in the American economy. What will happen is this money will be repatriated, and paid out in dividends to the stockholders, since this cash certainly isn't needed to fund jobs here. Corporations have more than enough cash from their American operations to do that.
AGREE!American corporations are already sitting on billions of dollars in profits they're not investing in the American economy. What will happen is this money will be repatriated, and paid out in dividends to the stockholders, since this cash certainly isn't needed to fund jobs here. Corporations have more than enough cash from their American operations to do that.
The subject is small business, regulations and obamacare.
But to your misdirection, corporations aren't going to invest in a shitty economy. That's WHY they are sitting on the money.
American corporations are already sitting on billions of dollars in profits they're not investing in the American economy. What will happen is this money will be repatriated, and paid out in dividends to the stockholders, since this cash certainly isn't needed to fund jobs here. Corporations have more than enough cash from their American operations to do that.
American corporations are already sitting on billions of dollars in profits they're not investing in the American economy. What will happen is this money will be repatriated, and paid out in dividends to the stockholders, since this cash certainly isn't needed to fund jobs here. Corporations have more than enough cash from their American operations to do that.
Thankfully we have such a business hating business expert among us.
Now, do you think increasing taxes and regulations, or decreasing taxes and regulation would make it more likely for these evil corporations to invest into American economy? Just wondering...
American corporations are already sitting on billions of dollars in profits they're not investing in the American economy. What will happen is this money will be repatriated, and paid out in dividends to the stockholders, since this cash certainly isn't needed to fund jobs here. Corporations have more than enough cash from their American operations to do that.
Thankfully we have such a business hating business expert among us.
Now, do you think increasing taxes and regulations, or decreasing taxes and regulation would make it more likely for these evil corporations to invest into American economy? Just wondering...
I think that if these corporations were inclined to invest in the American economy, they have had plenty of opportunity to do so in the past 8 years. Anyone who thinks that taxes and regulations are driving business away, really doesn't like like clean water, or infrastructure improvements, safety conscious employers, or working in buildings which are built to code and in no danger of collapsing, while receiving a living wage.
There are 5 million jobs in the US which employers can't fill. How about putting some of that cash to work retraining people to fill those jobs?
Apparently, you didn't read the part where Ireland lowered taxes, at the expense of their middle class, and got no jobs in the bargain. If the idea is to create jobs, cutting taxes doesn't work.
And save an enormous about of lives.Why do right wingers want other Americans to die?
Rdean feelings based rhetoric vs the facts that point out that regulations costs an enormous amount.
yup, facts never enter into it for these guys.
And save an enormous about of lives.Why do right wingers want other Americans to die?
Rdean feelings based rhetoric vs the facts that point out that regulations costs an enormous amount.
yup, facts never enter into it for these guys.
So why do right wingers want Americans to die?
And save an enormous about of lives.Why do right wingers want other Americans to die?
Rdean feelings based rhetoric vs the facts that point out that regulations costs an enormous amount.
yup, facts never enter into it for these guys.
So why do right wingers want Americans to die?
The single payer plan promoted by Bernie Sanders and the Green Party would eliminate all of that hassle and expense.
Small and start up businesses would be free to run their businesses without all of that hassle and expense holding them back. It would be a boon to our economy. Of course it would remove all that from all businesses big or small.
Indeed, single payer would save businesses a lot of money.The left continuously use businesses like a credit card, when they run out of money to spend they just increase taxes on businesses and spend some more. When businesses get pissed pack up and leave the left cranks up the taxes on the poor and middle class to feed their crack spending habit. That's how the left destroys cities and states. The left are flesh eating bacteria.
Excellent question.I'm curious where the $3.5 - $4 trillion a year to pay for health care expenditures would come from. That number will jump to $10 trillion by 2026. How will you fund it?The single payer plan promoted by Bernie Sanders and the Green Party would eliminate all of that hassle and expense.
Small and start up businesses would be free to run their businesses without all of that hassle and expense holding them back. It would be a boon to our economy. Of course it would remove all that from all businesses big or small.
The single payer plan promoted by Bernie Sanders and the Green Party would eliminate all of that hassle and expense.
Small and start up businesses would be free to run their businesses without all of that hassle and expense holding them back. It would be a boon to our economy. Of course it would remove all that from all businesses big or small.
That is somewhat true. But it would place more and more taxes on the public, which would be forced to live a lower standard of living, to pay for health care.
Sanders claimed that a mere 6% tax, would cover everything. This is absolute bull crap.
People change how they act, to fit with the incentives they are given. Meaning, as you increase taxes, people hide and conceal, and protect more of their money.
We've already seen this in effect with the un-Affordable Care Act. The Cadillac plan tax, is already causing companies to change their health care plans, to avoid the tax. This is before the tax is even fully implemented, companies are changing how they act in relation to the incentives given.
Every attempt by every country, to try and get the rich to pay for the power, has failed. It has always failed. There isn't one single success in this world, of that belief system.
Sanders is fond of pointing to Norway. Ok, well you pay the top marginal tax rate of 55% at $55,000 a year. Meaning, the vast majority of the middle-class would have to pay drastically higher taxes, to fund a universal healthcare system like Norway.
Why Americans Can't Have Universal Healthcare Like Europeans
Even conservative estimates, claim it would cost at least 20% on all Americans, not just the rich.
Sanders claim, is full of crap.
There are actually a bunch of reasons why, but the biggest is because people are ignorant about how Medicare works. The assumed math is, it costs X amount to cover Y number of people, there for you just multiply that out to a larger population, and collect the amount of taxes to cover it.
The problem is, that calculation is based on the idea that the price medicare pays, can be expanded to everyone. They can't.
Right now, Medicare pays less than the cost of care. Care providers charge non-government patients a higher price, to subsidize the money lost to government patients. And the larger the under-cut government pays, the larger the over charge care providers must pass on to non-government patients. This is a well documented effect.
Now if we implemented the Sanders plan, that would eliminate the private payers. Which would eliminate the cost subsidy health care providers were using to provide medicare and medicaid care.
How are hospitals going to stay open? Answer, they won't. Which would mean either, medicare and medicaid costs would have to drastically rise, and the taxes to pay for them.... or the government would have to take ownership of all hospitals which would cost hundreds of billions, and the taxes to pay for them.....
Or..... people simply wouldn't get care. We could have the amazing free health care of Greece for example.
So the Sander's plan, sounds nifty. But it is a lie. It's not true. Can't work.
Excellent question.I'm curious where the $3.5 - $4 trillion a year to pay for health care expenditures would come from. That number will jump to $10 trillion by 2026. How will you fund it?The single payer plan promoted by Bernie Sanders and the Green Party would eliminate all of that hassle and expense.
Small and start up businesses would be free to run their businesses without all of that hassle and expense holding them back. It would be a boon to our economy. Of course it would remove all that from all businesses big or small.
Short answer, it would cost you less. The administration cost of single payer is about 3%. So if you need $5000 in care it would cost $5150.
The for profit system is more. The administration cost is about 30%. So that same $5000 in care would cost you $6500. Add to this the co pays and deductibles.
Let's say you are paying $8000 per year for a half assed plan with co pays and deductibles. Would you trade that for $5000 in higher taxes and have everything covered 100%?
Plus, there are a lot of monkey motions that would be eliminated.
The single payer plan promoted by Bernie Sanders and the Green Party would eliminate all of that hassle and expense.
Small and start up businesses would be free to run their businesses without all of that hassle and expense holding them back. It would be a boon to our economy. Of course it would remove all that from all businesses big or small.
That is somewhat true. But it would place more and more taxes on the public, which would be forced to live a lower standard of living, to pay for health care.
Sanders claimed that a mere 6% tax, would cover everything. This is absolute bull crap.
People change how they act, to fit with the incentives they are given. Meaning, as you increase taxes, people hide and conceal, and protect more of their money.
We've already seen this in effect with the un-Affordable Care Act. The Cadillac plan tax, is already causing companies to change their health care plans, to avoid the tax. This is before the tax is even fully implemented, companies are changing how they act in relation to the incentives given.
Every attempt by every country, to try and get the rich to pay for the power, has failed. It has always failed. There isn't one single success in this world, of that belief system.
Sanders is fond of pointing to Norway. Ok, well you pay the top marginal tax rate of 55% at $55,000 a year. Meaning, the vast majority of the middle-class would have to pay drastically higher taxes, to fund a universal healthcare system like Norway.
Why Americans Can't Have Universal Healthcare Like Europeans
Even conservative estimates, claim it would cost at least 20% on all Americans, not just the rich.
Sanders claim, is full of crap.
There are actually a bunch of reasons why, but the biggest is because people are ignorant about how Medicare works. The assumed math is, it costs X amount to cover Y number of people, there for you just multiply that out to a larger population, and collect the amount of taxes to cover it.
The problem is, that calculation is based on the idea that the price medicare pays, can be expanded to everyone. They can't.
Right now, Medicare pays less than the cost of care. Care providers charge non-government patients a higher price, to subsidize the money lost to government patients. And the larger the under-cut government pays, the larger the over charge care providers must pass on to non-government patients. This is a well documented effect.
Now if we implemented the Sanders plan, that would eliminate the private payers. Which would eliminate the cost subsidy health care providers were using to provide medicare and medicaid care.
How are hospitals going to stay open? Answer, they won't. Which would mean either, medicare and medicaid costs would have to drastically rise, and the taxes to pay for them.... or the government would have to take ownership of all hospitals which would cost hundreds of billions, and the taxes to pay for them.....
Or..... people simply wouldn't get care. We could have the amazing free health care of Greece for example.
So the Sander's plan, sounds nifty. But it is a lie. It's not true. Can't work.Right now, Medicare pays less than the cost of care. Care providers charge non-government patients a higher price, to subsidize the money lost to government patients.
Indeed, cost shifting is a good part of the increase in price.
Some say that they do not want to pay for other people's care...well...you already are.
Indeed, privatizing costs more money.Excellent question.I'm curious where the $3.5 - $4 trillion a year to pay for health care expenditures would come from. That number will jump to $10 trillion by 2026. How will you fund it?The single payer plan promoted by Bernie Sanders and the Green Party would eliminate all of that hassle and expense.
Small and start up businesses would be free to run their businesses without all of that hassle and expense holding them back. It would be a boon to our economy. Of course it would remove all that from all businesses big or small.
Short answer, it would cost you less. The administration cost of single payer is about 3%. So if you need $5000 in care it would cost $5150.
The for profit system is more. The administration cost is about 30%. So that same $5000 in care would cost you $6500. Add to this the co pays and deductibles.
Let's say you are paying $8000 per year for a half assed plan with co pays and deductibles. Would you trade that for $5000 in higher taxes and have everything covered 100%?
Plus, there are a lot of monkey motions that would be eliminated.
That is also entirely false.
Administrative costs are not 3%. That's a statistical lie. Of the money given to Medicaid, roughly 3% goes to operating the Medicare administration, and 97% is paid out.
But is the money given to Medicare all administrative free? No it is not. The IRS spends billions collecting that tax money. That $5000 in care, with the $5150 in cost, doesn't include the $1000 the IRS spent paying accountants to file your taxes.
On top of that, is that $5000 in care, all going to care? No it is not. Medicare pays insurance companies a fee, to process Medicare patients. So some of that $5000 payout is going to administration, but is not calculated by Medicare.
Entirely false. You bought a bunch of lies.
Legalized extortion like Obamacare has a tendency to do that to people's lives…Written into the Affordable Care Act legislation was a provision to establish the Small Business Health Options Program (SHOP) marketplace, which ACA proponents said would help small businesses compete with larger employers. In November 2015, Kaiser Health Newsreported, “Employers with fewer than 50 full-time workers are eligible to buy coverage on SHOP.
The federal government even offers businesses an incentive, a tax credit worth up to half of an employer’s share of their workers’ premiums.
Among the conditions: The firm must employ fewer than 25 workers and their average salary cannot exceed $50,000.”
According to the Kaiser Health News story, only 85,000 people from 11,000 small businesses had coverage through SHOP.
This is significantly less than the 1 million people
the Congressional Budget Office expected to be enrolled in SHOP by the end of 2015.
Susan Wilson Solovic, a New York Times bestselling author and former ABC News business analyst, says to avoid any potential penalties associated with the 50-employee rule, small businesses are choosing to outsource many of their jobs to online freelancers, rather than hiring more staff.
Prior to 2016, many of the time-consuming regulations for small businesses with fewer than 100 employees but more than 49 employees were not enforced in order to give businesses more time to prepare for the rules.
Now that many small businesses are going to be forced to comply with myriad health care rules and regulations they have been able to avoid in the past, many experts are expecting the number of Department of Labor audits to increase, adding to the growing confusion and costs being imposed on small businesses.
Justin Haskins - Survey Shows Small Businesses Suffering Under Obamacare
So not only is Obamacare directly affecting the hiring of more people which would mean more business which would be more people paying taxes, meaning more people buying more consumer goods... we
see Obamacare DISCOURAGING small businesses!
Then look at rules and regulations!
Small Business Facts
Small businesses create two-thirds of the net new jobs annually, employ more than half of the private-sector workforce, and generate nearly 50 percent of annual GDP. America’s small businesses are the backbone of our economy and engines of job creation.
Regulations by the numbers
Today, there are 3,348 federal regulations in the pipeline, with nearly 1/3 impacting small business directly. (Source: The Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs, Unified Agenda 2013)
According to the NFIB Small Business Optimism Index, small business owners have cited regulations as a top impediment to conducting business for over 65 months in a row. (Source: NFIB Small Business Optimism Index)
Need for Regulatory Reform
283,615 full-time government employees were dedicated to drafting and enforcing regulations in 2012, while fewer than 50 employees at OMB are responsible for reviewing the new regulatory mandates to ensure they are justified and accurate prior to implementation (Source: “Growth in Regulators’ Budget Slowed by Fiscal Stalemate: An Analysis of the U.S. Budget for Fiscal Years 2012 and 2013,” The George Washington University and Washington University in St. Louis)
From 2003-2010, one-third of major rules, costing $100 million or more, did not go through public review and input, despite federal requirements for public comment. (Source: GAO Report)
Quick Facts - Small Businesses for Sensible Regulations
The cost of federal regulation neared $2 trillion in 2014, according to a new report by the Competitive Enterprise Institute (CEI).
Report: Cost of Federal Regulation Reached $1.88 Trillion in 2014
Indeed, privatizing costs more money.Excellent question.I'm curious where the $3.5 - $4 trillion a year to pay for health care expenditures would come from. That number will jump to $10 trillion by 2026. How will you fund it?The single payer plan promoted by Bernie Sanders and the Green Party would eliminate all of that hassle and expense.
Small and start up businesses would be free to run their businesses without all of that hassle and expense holding them back. It would be a boon to our economy. Of course it would remove all that from all businesses big or small.
Short answer, it would cost you less. The administration cost of single payer is about 3%. So if you need $5000 in care it would cost $5150.
The for profit system is more. The administration cost is about 30%. So that same $5000 in care would cost you $6500. Add to this the co pays and deductibles.
Let's say you are paying $8000 per year for a half assed plan with co pays and deductibles. Would you trade that for $5000 in higher taxes and have everything covered 100%?
Plus, there are a lot of monkey motions that would be eliminated.
That is also entirely false.
Administrative costs are not 3%. That's a statistical lie. Of the money given to Medicaid, roughly 3% goes to operating the Medicare administration, and 97% is paid out.
But is the money given to Medicare all administrative free? No it is not. The IRS spends billions collecting that tax money. That $5000 in care, with the $5150 in cost, doesn't include the $1000 the IRS spent paying accountants to file your taxes.
On top of that, is that $5000 in care, all going to care? No it is not. Medicare pays insurance companies a fee, to process Medicare patients. So some of that $5000 payout is going to administration, but is not calculated by Medicare.
Entirely false. You bought a bunch of lies.
Excellent question.I'm curious where the $3.5 - $4 trillion a year to pay for health care expenditures would come from. That number will jump to $10 trillion by 2026. How will you fund it?The single payer plan promoted by Bernie Sanders and the Green Party would eliminate all of that hassle and expense.
Small and start up businesses would be free to run their businesses without all of that hassle and expense holding them back. It would be a boon to our economy. Of course it would remove all that from all businesses big or small.
Short answer, it would cost you less. The administration cost of single payer is about 3%. So if you need $5000 in care it would cost $5150.
The for profit system is more. The administration cost is about 30%. So that same $5000 in care would cost you $6500. Add to this the co pays and deductibles.
Let's say you are paying $8000 per year for a half assed plan with co pays and deductibles. Would you trade that for $5000 in higher taxes and have everything covered 100%?
Plus, there are a lot of monkey motions that would be eliminated.
