Small Business Confidence & Hiring Up Due To Obama, GOP Opposed!

[Avorysuds]

I want to open a Gym, I'm all set to do this but the actual thought of taking that step makes my stomach turn. I currently own my own small business at this point so I pay attention and understand to some degree what it takes.

I'm not an "Amazing businessmen" or anything but I do see what the recession has to offer someone like me… cheep goods as other companies fail and I get to buy their stuff to open my own Gym. But to open a business when shit like Obamacare is coming down the pipe, when we never actually left a recession and a Trillion dollar stimulus falsely lifts us from a bad recession only to drop us back into it when the money is gone as predicted is hard for someone to take that first step.

When Obama talks anyone that wants to invest or “create jobs” cringes… It’s all the stupid idiots that feel they deserve a job for life or until they want to move on, people that think they are doing their employer a favor by showing up to work and not telling the boss to go fuck themselves, people that think they should be paid more and never look at how that will affect the growth of that business and its ability to later hire more people… These are the shallow minded people Obama is trying desperately to win over, but even getting reelected that won’t magically create jobs.

For the record there is certainty in the market, it’s certain that it’s a good time to save and wait for better opportunity.

 

[Firehorse]

Keeping the Bush tax raises didn't give business money, it simply kept the cost of them doing business the same as before.

At this moment there is a congressional commettee meeting that will come out and say "ummm, we don't know how to fix it, you if we did you would call it DOA anyway" ... When that comes out, automatic cuts are forthcoming ... Including the Bush tax cuts ... When us tgat report due? That's why extending the rates for a limited time does nothing. Most business don't hire for a limited time, they want employees for the long run

 

[Avorysuds]

TM, "the jobless uneducated wonder," has nothing to say about what people that actually run a business should be doing?

 

[TruthSeeker56]

There are two federally official employment reports and the ADP private payrolls report is in advance of those. Up it went in Q3, and more than expected for September reporting.

http://www.adpemploymentreport.com/pdf/FINAL_Report_September_11.pdf

The federal unemployment rate data likely better captures small business and new business formations employment. New-Self employment, professional, or cottage-industry level employment is not represented in the federal establishments data, which further includes state and local government payrolls reporting.

September ADP is pro-Obama, Anti-GOP. It is actually for spending in the stores--which Republicans have opposed since Obama took office. They said, "No!" and "Nein! Nein! Nein!" Small business sent an "Oh, Yes!" message instead, just last month. The original Ivy League/Obama-Biden Lubrication--of current economics in America--is now finally Stimulus-Ready(?)!

It will be so exciting that anyone can even try to listen in(?)!

The nearly Bear Market Q3 stock market performance, people now notice, was not Obama-deficit driven. That was actually Euro-deficits driven, which were not Obama-caused deficits. Those deficits arose due to Bush-Cheney-McConnell-Boehner-Cantor-McCain-Palin-Romney-Cain-What's His Name-What's Her Name--Paul, Paul, et. al.: All GOP.

A De-regulation of the banking and financials sector is at fault of it all. That arose in the United States from the abomination, ARM's that got sold. That arose in Europe from the unregulated tendency to swallow force-fed crap--from any source whatsoever.

The Great Socialist U. S. Credit Market, guided along by Chairman Bernanke, Hero of The Revolution, has begun to stablize. Great Socialist China has done its part, and then exceeded its part in helping to bring down fuel prices. All peoples WorldWide benefit from Socialist Civilizations!

U. S. local entrepreneurs are coming on-board, rejecting the "No More Spending" mantra of Republicans--widely known and reported.

"Crow, James Crow: Shaken, Not Stirred!"
(Lands of Many Nations now Live Long and Prosper, post great-era of interstellar exploration right there on TV! Old Life Expectancy of 55 years now mainly confined to Laissez Faire like in East Africa, or in Haiti. Many Ivy League, even: Kept all the money during first decade of current century, in USA!)

Funny stuff. Another example of George Washington's statement that political party loyalty, over loyalty to country, will destroy the United States.

Statistics don't lie. When over 400,000 people are filing for INITIAL unemployment benefits every WEEK, there is no "confidence", there is no recovery, and there is no "hope and change".

The leftists continue to click the collective heels of their red slippers together and make wishes that aren't coming true. If it wasn't so sad, it would be funny.

 

[mascale]

Dow Jones Transports dropped like an Ostrich outrunning a Lion. . .In The. . .Heat(?): Just in Q3--and so far only Q3. These are recession-sensitive companies. China "cut-back" from full-steam ahead, to full-steam ahead. The Euro political process "cut-back" from austerity as usual, to "bail-out" mode--maybe in record setting time. The opening sentence describes that kind of race!

http://finance.yahoo.com/echarts?s=%5EDJT+Interactive#symbol=^djt;range=3m;compare=;indicator=volume;charttype=area;crosshair=on;ohlcvalues=0;logscale=off;source=;

"Bear-Killer" October is almost in play in the DJIA Transports index already. So far, the S&P Bears have yet to even appear. Japan only got back on track over summer. Underwater over summer included hurricanes and typhoons, all over.

The World business climate, and geo-weather itself--are not about Obama-Biden. When disucussing "Conservatives," even: Then in Greece the Conservative Government simply lied about its current condition.

Liberals are actually more data-driven, than Tea-Fantasy Driven. The Conservative Greek government is on par with U. S. 64 GOP Tea-Fantasies now running their party--and U. S. House of Represenatives. Lies and Fantasies are not data-driven.

GOP candidate name recognition, in fact: Is not so far too data-driven.

The International Business climate is not about Obama-Biden-Pelosi-Reid. The advanced Socialist Civilizations are finally now able to sort out what they know.

"Crow, James Crow: Shaken, Not Stirred!"
(Great "Age of Exploration" even now again to be subject of further Star Trek saga--maybe in textbooks from Texas! Many find out: "Some people believe in theTheory of Scientific Whiteness, while others believe that Whiteness: Evolves Like a Swoon over the generations of Time! The Choice for the individual is from various applications that are used! Whiteness is clearly not something that people are born with, but is something that people choose to do(?)!" Many know source of Much Tea Fantasy, called Conservative Schools!)

 

[CrusaderFrank]

"due to Obama".....????

I thought the Tea Party stopped Obama?????

Are we on a new Big Lie today?

 

[kiwiman127]

anti business environment.

Maybe you should threaten business again, its bound to work this time...................

This is the biggest pile of horse crap this side of the Depression.

Bush slashed taxes from the onset....what happened to the "job creators" then?

Cut your crap...this swill does not work.

One could say that for 6 years the economy was good, it was booming even... Then Democrats took over and a year and a half later we had a collapse. Now Obama is in power and even with a Democrat congress for 2 years the economy just got worse and worse despite Trillions spent. Now the economy is in freefall again and the Dems in the Senate and Obama said any Republican bill will be DOA and the Dem Senate won't even vote on Obama's bills.

The Labor Participation Rate shows that during those "six years" things were not booming in regards to the percentage of total workforce actually working! People have to get over this myth.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

I lost track of the Big Lies

Booooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooosh!

Bank ATM

Airport Kiosk

Japan Tsunami

Tea Party

were stifling Obamanomics...

yet now all is well?

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

If Barack Obama were president of a major U.S. company, he’d be fired by now. That’s what American voters think -- by a 52-38 percent margin.

Fifty-six percent of independents think a corporation’s board of directors would have already handed Obama his pink slip. Nearly a quarter of Democrats also believe Obama would be out (23 percent).



Read more: Fox News Poll: Majority Says As A CEO, Obama Would Have Been Fired | Fox News

 

[kiwiman127]

If Barack Obama were president of a major U.S. company, he’d be fired by now. That’s what American voters think -- by a 52-38 percent margin.

Fifty-six percent of independents think a corporation’s board of directors would have already handed Obama his pink slip. Nearly a quarter of Democrats also believe Obama would be out (23 percent).



Read more: Fox News Poll: Majority Says As A CEO, Obama Would Have Been Fired | Fox News

Oh, I can agree with the poll. I wonder how the poll would have read if the question was asking about Congress by party?

 

[mascale]

Even in Europe, The stark contrast in approaches to government has become apparent, and in this century. Tea-Mucker types causes woes with lies. Socialists have to show the data: Helping to promote a viabile planet economics.

Timeline of a crisis: how Greece's tragedy unfolded - Telegraph

The lies start at the number, 2004. The legacy is now internationally famous. That is more about Bush-Cheney-Paulson-McConnell-Boehner-Cantor-Romney-Cain-What's His Name-What's Her Name-McCain-Palin-Paul, Paul, et. al.: In Euro-Vision(?)!

The Tea Fantasy that the current economic conditions are Obama-Driven is not data-driven. Even deficit and debt is not the problem. The Tea Fantasy lies are the problem.

It's even happened, even before: In this century!

"Crow, James Crow: Shaken, Not Stirred!"
(People of the Funny Horse Gift: Now need Bureau of Indian Affairs, like on Lands of Many Nations?! Funny Horse Gift people now show who really become the victims of their policies--like on Lands of Many Nations, before One-Armed Bandits. . . .(?)!)

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Obama (is/is not) responsible!

 

[asaratis]

Reading through threads such as this one generally reinforces my belief that most liberals are incorrigibly stupid, totally incapable of learning and would rather die than admit that their incompetent leader, his cronies and their anti-capitalist policies are responsible for the dreadful condition of our economy today. I have concluded that replying to several of the most looney liberal posters on this board is a complete waste of time and server space.

Though it does remain amusing to read the idiotic excuses and note the Jerry-Springer-guest mentality of the posters, it is tiring to see this kind of shit all over the pages of this great message board.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

"Unemployment is not coming down enough, and payrolls are moving in a zig-zag fashion, with payroll numbers down one month, up another, with no consistency of job growth," Kathleen Camilli, economist at Credit Suisse Asset Management, told CNNfn. "This is still a mixed bag."

Manufacturing continued to shed jobs, losing 17,000 in September. Service payrolls rose by 74,000, most of those in the department's "professional and business services" category, which includes temporary help services, which added 33,000 jobs.

 

[mascale]

Greece is not even Kenya, where Tea-Fatasizers believe Biden is from(?), or someone else they can name. Admittedly, most Conservatives know that Biden is from Communist Russia, because it is not, now(?). So when Greek Conservatives lied, it was because Al Gore had invented Osama bin laden, who was in charge of Iraq(?)!

Tea Fantasy agenda the world has seen already! The fact check is that Euro-Conservatives lied. The Fact-Check is that Deficit and Debt is not the problem, but that Bush-Cheney-McConnell-Boehner-Cantor-Romney-Cain-What's His Name-and What's Her Name--McCain-Palin-Paul, Paul, et. al., remain the problem.

It's in the International Nightmares1

"Crow, James Crow: Shaken, Not Stirred!"
(Great Euro-Butress, even: Now seen able to contain contagion thanks to Socialist Peoples of the World!)

 

[editec]

If I understand this post, Mescales report is that small businesses are starting to hire while corporate America is as yet not doing so.

Employment on small payrolls—those with up to 49 workers—rose 60,000 in September, nearlyequal to job creation among small businesses last month. Employment on medium payrolls— those with 50 to 499 workers—rose 36,000, and employment on large payrolls—those with 500 or more workers—declined 5,000.*​

I SUSPECT what's going on is some folks are electeing to open small businesses since they cannot find work elsewhere.

A lot of people who take early retirement from their corporate jobs take theor cash buyouts and then open up their own small businesses.


Good for them!

 

[iamwhatiseem]

So yeah...planned layoffs in September was the highest in 2 years.
Hiring only went up by an anemic 90,000...this is a disaster...and the inglorious OP calls it a success.

Sorta like going tuna fishing off the coast of Florida and all you caught all day was a couple 1lb. fish...and you brag to your friends how successful your trip was.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

And the other thing the OP leaves out in this hilarious thread...underemployment.
Underemployment is a LARGER problem than unemployment.
Some companies are hiring...but at what wages? If you can find a $12/hour job with benefits you would be lucky - and what is $12 per hour? Nothing.

 

[WillowTree]

There are two federally official employment reports and the ADP private payrolls report is in advance of those. Up it went in Q3, and more than expected for September reporting.

http://www.adpemploymentreport.com/pdf/FINAL_Report_September_11.pdf

The federal unemployment rate data likely better captures small business and new business formations employment. New-Self employment, professional, or cottage-industry level employment is not represented in the federal establishments data, which further includes state and local government payrolls reporting.

September ADP is pro-Obama, Anti-GOP. It is actually for spending in the stores--which Republicans have opposed since Obama took office. They said, "No!" and "Nein! Nein! Nein!" Small business sent an "Oh, Yes!" message instead, just last month. The original Ivy League/Obama-Biden Lubrication--of current economics in America--is now finally Stimulus-Ready(?)!

It will be so exciting that anyone can even try to listen in(?)!








The nearly Bear Market Q3 stock market performance, people now notice, was not Obama-deficit driven. That was actually Euro-deficits driven, which were not Obama-caused deficits. Those deficits arose due to Bush-Cheney-McConnell-Boehner-Cantor-McCain-Palin-Romney-Cain-What's His Name-What's Her Name--Paul, Paul, et. al.: All GOP.

A De-regulation of the banking and financials sector is at fault of it all. That arose in the United States from the abomination, ARM's that got sold. That arose in Europe from the unregulated tendency to swallow force-fed crap--from any source whatsoever.

The Great Socialist U. S. Credit Market, guided along by Chairman Bernanke, Hero of The Revolution, has begun to stablize. Great Socialist China has done its part, and then exceeded its part in helping to bring down fuel prices. All peoples WorldWide benefit from Socialist Civilizations!

U. S. local entrepreneurs are coming on-board, rejecting the "No More Spending" mantra of Republicans--widely known and reported.

"Crow, James Crow: Shaken, Not Stirred!"
(Lands of Many Nations now Live Long and Prosper, post great-era of interstellar exploration right there on TV! Old Life Expectancy of 55 years now mainly confined to Laissez Faire like in East Africa, or in Haiti. Many Ivy League, even: Kept all the money during first decade of current century, in USA!)

This is very good news indeed.. Then we can expect unemployment to drop to 5% or below. Very good news indeed. Let us know when it gets there.

 

[mascale]

Whereas GOP has continuously opposed any further spending, anywhere, at all: Obama-Biden and Chairmain Bernanke, heroes of our Revolution, have created spending at any rate(?)! The two week range is just below 400,000 New Claiims per week.

Probably teachers are among the first to apply, followed by police, fire rescue, and the rest. These are law supporters, all of whom participated in the causing of the downturn in the first place.

The law created unregulated, Adjusted Rate Mortgages. They drew pay--clearly intending the arithmetic of the foreclosures, in the law. The Bush Tax Cuts helped create the corporate hoarding of cash now in place. That is lawful, and they kept the pay. Then there are the slime with savings and investment incomes, and supportive of the fixed-percentage COLA's in the nations worldwide.

Obama-Biden. Pelosi-Reid, created the make-work pay equal amount, first ever in history COLA nationwide. The Republicans took that away as soon as they. The arithmetic of the "good" householder in Matthew 20:1-16, is opposed by all who are GOP, and clearly the lawful supporters, drawing pay.

"Crow, James Crow: Shaken, Not Stirred!"
(Many come to Lands of Many Nations! Seek Debt Relief from one-armed bandits! Many Go to Fomer Lands of Many Nations, on Manhattan Island! Seek Debt Relief from two-armed bandits! School Is About That! Hmmm!)