Skinheads, Neo-Nazis and the EDL

[Saigon]

Swagger -

You might feel safe now, Saigon, but just wait until Helsinki starts to experience the largely negative effects of Islam. Just wait until you have Muslim ghettos like London, Paris and Stockholm. Then you might begin to sing a different tune.

If I felt safe in Cairo, Damascus, Beirut and Jakarta, I guess I'll feel safe in Helsinki.

My father fought against Nazis - and I'm proud he did so. I can't imagine what would make English people want to change sides now.

 

[Saigon]

OHHHH displaying the BRITISH flag makes him a Nazi! Good to know.

No, bauble - attacking immigrants makes them Nazis.

you have NO PROOF of that....

however.....there IS proof of just the opposite....

On 5 June 2012, EDL members attacked and threw firecrackers at a group of people protesting against the Queen's Diamond Jubilee. They were also filmed giving Nazi salutes

EDL members have been reported attacking an anti-fascist concert in Yorkshire. EDL members have been jailed for attacking staff at office buildings which had hosted anti-EDL meetings. EDL members have also attacked a bookstall in Sandwell. An EDL member has also been reported attacking non-white people on London Underground.


On 9 October 2010, a police officer and several civilians were injured during protests by the English Defence League and Unite Against Fascism in Leicester. A Sky News van was attacked by members of the English Defence League who had earlier thrown fireworks, smokebombs and bricks at police and smashed windows of the city's International Arts Centre. There were also clashes between EDL supporters and local black and Asian youths as a group broke out of the EDL protest site at Humberstone Gate East and engaged with the locals. One man from Tyne and Wear was later convicted of causing criminal damage to the value of £1500 to a restaurant in this area of the city. Riot police fought to maintain control over the sporadic fighting that ensued. Thirteen people were arrested, one on suspicion of assaulting a police officer, only one was from the city of Leicester and the cost of policing the demonstration was put at £850,000.

English Defence League - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

They sound like really nice people.

 

[Decus]

Swagger -

You might feel safe now, Saigon, but just wait until Helsinki starts to experience the largely negative effects of Islam. Just wait until you have Muslim ghettos like London, Paris and Stockholm. Then you might begin to sing a different tune.

If I felt safe in Cairo, Damascus, Beirut and Jakarta, I guess I'll feel safe in Helsinki.

My father fought against Nazis - and I'm proud he did so. I can't imagine what would make English people want to change sides now.

Just a question. Why do most historians report that the Finns fought side by side with the Germans through much of WWII? Only in the later stages of the war did they fight against the Germans. Was it sympathy for the German cause or mutual interest that was the reason for their collaboration?

 

[Bleipriester]

Just a question. Why do most historians report that the Finns fought side by side with the Germans through much of WWII? Only in the later stages of the war did they fight against the Germans. Was it sympathy for the German cause or mutual interest that was the reason for their collaboration?

Just take a look at the following:

Finnish Airforce Sign 1918 - 1945:

Current Flag of the Finnish Military Flight Training School:

Current Finnisch Presidential Flag:

 

[ScreamingEagle]

No, bauble - attacking immigrants makes them Nazis.

you have NO PROOF of that....

however.....there IS proof of just the opposite....

On 5 June 2012, EDL members attacked and threw firecrackers at a group of people protesting against the Queen's Diamond Jubilee. They were also filmed giving Nazi salutes

EDL members have been reported attacking an anti-fascist concert in Yorkshire. EDL members have been jailed for attacking staff at office buildings which had hosted anti-EDL meetings. EDL members have also attacked a bookstall in Sandwell. An EDL member has also been reported attacking non-white people on London Underground.


On 9 October 2010, a police officer and several civilians were injured during protests by the English Defence League and Unite Against Fascism in Leicester. A Sky News van was attacked by members of the English Defence League who had earlier thrown fireworks, smokebombs and bricks at police and smashed windows of the city's International Arts Centre. There were also clashes between EDL supporters and local black and Asian youths as a group broke out of the EDL protest site at Humberstone Gate East and engaged with the locals. One man from Tyne and Wear was later convicted of causing criminal damage to the value of £1500 to a restaurant in this area of the city. Riot police fought to maintain control over the sporadic fighting that ensued. Thirteen people were arrested, one on suspicion of assaulting a police officer, only one was from the city of Leicester and the cost of policing the demonstration was put at £850,000.

English Defence League - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

They sound like really nice people.

the UAF is a leftist socialist group that of course opposes anything on the right...and will label anybody on the right as a 'Nazi'....

i am not going to deny that there is a thuggish element within the EDL....afterall it is a working class group and they can't control everyone at all times....but they are also in the process of cleaning out the extreme elements as much as possible...

however the UAF and other PC lefties don't seem to be at all concerned about the thuggish Muslims.....you know.....the vigilante muslim patrols in the streets of London...and lets not forget the beheading of a British soldier and the muslims arrested for attemped MURDER of legally protesting EDL members with all kinds of weapons including nail bombs...

 

[Uncensored2008]

Yes, I agree, and that is quite a good analogy,except that militant Islam is a larger movement, representing perhaps as many as 5% of all Muslims.

Decus -

This thread is not about integration or France or Sweden. Let's stick to the EDL as the topic.

How many Christians joined the Westboro Baptist Church?

A lot, huh?

Mean, there are 38 members - so that means a majority of the 2.8 billion Christians in the world are part of it, right sparky?

Not only that, those Westboro bastards are always flying planes into buildings and beheading people on Algore Jazera, right?

I mean, you're not just spewing shit to defend radical Islam, are you?

 

[Political Junky]

you have NO PROOF of that....

however.....there IS proof of just the opposite....

On 5 June 2012, EDL members attacked and threw firecrackers at a group of people protesting against the Queen's Diamond Jubilee. They were also filmed giving Nazi salutes

EDL members have been reported attacking an anti-fascist concert in Yorkshire. EDL members have been jailed for attacking staff at office buildings which had hosted anti-EDL meetings. EDL members have also attacked a bookstall in Sandwell. An EDL member has also been reported attacking non-white people on London Underground.


On 9 October 2010, a police officer and several civilians were injured during protests by the English Defence League and Unite Against Fascism in Leicester. A Sky News van was attacked by members of the English Defence League who had earlier thrown fireworks, smokebombs and bricks at police and smashed windows of the city's International Arts Centre. There were also clashes between EDL supporters and local black and Asian youths as a group broke out of the EDL protest site at Humberstone Gate East and engaged with the locals. One man from Tyne and Wear was later convicted of causing criminal damage to the value of £1500 to a restaurant in this area of the city. Riot police fought to maintain control over the sporadic fighting that ensued. Thirteen people were arrested, one on suspicion of assaulting a police officer, only one was from the city of Leicester and the cost of policing the demonstration was put at £850,000.

English Defence League - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

They sound like really nice people.

the UAF is a leftist socialist group that of course opposes anything on the right...and will label anybody on the right as a 'Nazi'....

i am not going to deny that there is a thuggish element within the EDL....afterall it is a working class group and they can't control everyone at all times....but they are also in the process of cleaning out the extreme elements as much as possible...

however the UAF and other PC lefties don't seem to be at all concerned about the thuggish Muslims.....you know.....the vigilante muslim patrols in the streets of London...and lets not forget the beheading of a British soldier and the muslims arrested for attemped MURDER of legally protesting EDL members with all kinds of weapons including nail bombs...

Much as the American Right will label anything they don't like as Leftist, regardless of evidence to the contrary.

 

[ScreamingEagle]

On 5 June 2012, EDL members attacked and threw firecrackers at a group of people protesting against the Queen's Diamond Jubilee. They were also filmed giving Nazi salutes

EDL members have been reported attacking an anti-fascist concert in Yorkshire. EDL members have been jailed for attacking staff at office buildings which had hosted anti-EDL meetings. EDL members have also attacked a bookstall in Sandwell. An EDL member has also been reported attacking non-white people on London Underground.


On 9 October 2010, a police officer and several civilians were injured during protests by the English Defence League and Unite Against Fascism in Leicester. A Sky News van was attacked by members of the English Defence League who had earlier thrown fireworks, smokebombs and bricks at police and smashed windows of the city's International Arts Centre. There were also clashes between EDL supporters and local black and Asian youths as a group broke out of the EDL protest site at Humberstone Gate East and engaged with the locals. One man from Tyne and Wear was later convicted of causing criminal damage to the value of £1500 to a restaurant in this area of the city. Riot police fought to maintain control over the sporadic fighting that ensued. Thirteen people were arrested, one on suspicion of assaulting a police officer, only one was from the city of Leicester and the cost of policing the demonstration was put at £850,000.

English Defence League - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

They sound like really nice people.

the UAF is a leftist socialist group that of course opposes anything on the right...and will label anybody on the right as a 'Nazi'....

i am not going to deny that there is a thuggish element within the EDL....afterall it is a working class group and they can't control everyone at all times....but they are also in the process of cleaning out the extreme elements as much as possible...

however the UAF and other PC lefties don't seem to be at all concerned about the thuggish Muslims.....you know.....the vigilante muslim patrols in the streets of London...and lets not forget the beheading of a British soldier and the muslims arrested for attemped MURDER of legally protesting EDL members with all kinds of weapons including nail bombs...

Much as the American Right will label anything they don't like as Leftist, regardless of evidence to the contrary.

don't you find it rather curious that the UAF (United Against Fascism) is mostly a socialist group and that NAZISM is the short form for National Socialism......?

but then the left is known for saying the opposite of what it really stands for...

 

[Political Junky]

the UAF is a leftist socialist group that of course opposes anything on the right...and will label anybody on the right as a 'Nazi'....

i am not going to deny that there is a thuggish element within the EDL....afterall it is a working class group and they can't control everyone at all times....but they are also in the process of cleaning out the extreme elements as much as possible...

however the UAF and other PC lefties don't seem to be at all concerned about the thuggish Muslims.....you know.....the vigilante muslim patrols in the streets of London...and lets not forget the beheading of a British soldier and the muslims arrested for attemped MURDER of legally protesting EDL members with all kinds of weapons including nail bombs...

Much as the American Right will label anything they don't like as Leftist, regardless of evidence to the contrary.

don't you find it rather curious that the UAF (United Against Fascism) is mostly a socialist group and that NAZISM is the short form for National Socialism......?

but then the left is known for saying the opposite of what it really stands for...

Thanks for confirming my post.

 

[ScreamingEagle]

Much as the American Right will label anything they don't like as Leftist, regardless of evidence to the contrary.

don't you find it rather curious that the UAF (United Against Fascism) is mostly a socialist group and that NAZISM is the short form for National Socialism......?

but then the left is known for saying the opposite of what it really stands for...

Thanks for confirming my post.

what label....? "socialist" is a true descriptive adjective of the UAF...

thanks for confirming MY post.....

 

[Saigon]

don't you find it rather curious that the UAF (United Against Fascism) is mostly a socialist group and that NAZISM is the short form for National Socialism......?

but then the left is known for saying the opposite of what it really stands for...

Given that fascism is a right wing philosophy - then no, I don't find that curious.

What I do find curious is the number of posters here keen to associate themselves with a movement their parents fought a war to stop.

 

[ScreamingEagle]

don't you find it rather curious that the UAF (United Against Fascism) is mostly a socialist group and that NAZISM is the short form for National Socialism......?

but then the left is known for saying the opposite of what it really stands for...

Given that fascism is a right wing philosophy - then no, I don't find that curious.

What I do find curious is the number of posters here keen to associate themselves with a movement their parents fought a war to stop.

Fascism was created in Italy from both right wing and left wing elements...

UAF socialists (left) together with Islamic fascist theocrats (right)....nothing new under the sun...

 

[BecauseIKnow]

Decus -

Neither Sunni nor Shi'ite Muslims consider Christians to be 'infidels'.

Muslims believe in the Virgin Birth, and that Jesus was a great prophet. They believe that Muslims, Jews, and Christians are all "people of the book".

So why are they fighting Jihad then?

Who's fighting Jihad?

 

[Esmeralda]

Following on from another thread in which three posters voiced their support for the English Defence League, I thought it might be worth looking at them more closely...

the EDL grew out of football hooliganism and the 'football casual'culture, which bizarelly linked fashion and music into hooliganism and violence.

Although leaders actually deny being Nazis in public, Wikipedia suggests:

However, scholarly fieldwork into the group has suggested that racism and Islamophobia "may well be more commonplace among the EDL's 'rank and file' than the group's leaders would publicly admit," and at least one of their marches was heavily promoted on the fascist and white supremacist website "Stormfront."

EDL actions are typified by arson and attacks against shops and restaurants owned by foreigners, violence against the police and attacks against anti-fascist groups.

Interesting, they deny being Nazis in public, but in private it's OK. They made "Stormfront", quite the accomplishment.

The are essentially neo-Nazis.

 

[ScreamingEagle]

Following on from another thread in which three posters voiced their support for the English Defence League, I thought it might be worth looking at them more closely...

the EDL grew out of football hooliganism and the 'football casual'culture, which bizarelly linked fashion and music into hooliganism and violence.

Although leaders actually deny being Nazis in public, Wikipedia suggests:

However, scholarly fieldwork into the group has suggested that racism and Islamophobia "may well be more commonplace among the EDL's 'rank and file' than the group's leaders would publicly admit," and at least one of their marches was heavily promoted on the fascist and white supremacist website "Stormfront."

EDL actions are typified by arson and attacks against shops and restaurants owned by foreigners, violence against the police and attacks against anti-fascist groups.

Interesting, they deny being Nazis in public, but in private it's OK. They made "Stormfront", quite the accomplishment.

They are essentially neo-Nazis.

your bias (or ignorance) is showing...

the EDL has told Stormfront to F*ck Off....
there may be a few Nazi fringe elements in the EDL but they are trying to clean them out...

the pics above prove nothing.....do gun salutes frighten you....?
many of the EDL wear masks in order to protect themselves from identification....from the IslamoFascists who are targeting the "infidel" leaders...AND their families....Tommy Robinson has received countless threats...

muslims and those in power (along with the media) and the PCers want to ban the messages of the EDL...

here's a bit of it...
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GcpHR8Lrnd8]Tommy Robinson speaks at EDL Demo in Luton - YouTube[/ame]

 

[Esmeralda]

Following on from another thread in which three posters voiced their support for the English Defence League, I thought it might be worth looking at them more closely...

the EDL grew out of football hooliganism and the 'football casual'culture, which bizarelly linked fashion and music into hooliganism and violence.

Although leaders actually deny being Nazis in public, Wikipedia suggests:

However, scholarly fieldwork into the group has suggested that racism and Islamophobia "may well be more commonplace among the EDL's 'rank and file' than the group's leaders would publicly admit," and at least one of their marches was heavily promoted on the fascist and white supremacist website "Stormfront."

EDL actions are typified by arson and attacks against shops and restaurants owned by foreigners, violence against the police and attacks against anti-fascist groups.

Interesting, they deny being Nazis in public, but in private it's OK. They made "Stormfront", quite the accomplishment.

They are essentially neo-Nazis.

your bias (or ignorance) is showing...

Actually, YOUR bias (or ignorance) is showing...

 

[ScreamingEagle]

They are essentially neo-Nazis.

your bias (or ignorance) is showing...

Actually, YOUR bias (or ignorance) is showing...

did you listen to the EDL video i posted.....? What is it you disagree with....?

the end of his speech where he says "stay peaceful".....?

 

[Esmeralda]

your bias (or ignorance) is showing...

Actually, YOUR bias (or ignorance) is showing...

did you listen to the EDL video i posted.....? What is it you disagree with....?

the end of his speech where he says "stay peaceful".....?

Peaceful? About a week ago they burned down a Somali community center because Somali Muslims and other Muslim groups use it. http://uk.news.yahoo.com/edl-graffiti-found-burnt-london-somali-centre-144751405.html#tIyOCMy

BTW, peaceful protesters don't need to wear masks to cover their identities.

 

[Esmeralda]

theres a man of here tht calls himself swagger who is a member off the english defnse league and he is a nazi. he has the brtish flag in his avi. he was banned from another baord I was on after he posted a video of him and his freinds hitting a muslim on their march. ive never seen someoen pucnhed so hard, and they spat on the poor man

dont let the charming getleman act fool you. hes a nazi and a thug

http://www.usmessageboard.com/members/swagger.html

Interesting....I am going to keep an open mind about about the guy until I see some clearer evidence, but I will keep that it mind, thanks.

There are at least half a dozen posters here who seem to hold crypto-fascist views, which I do find disturbing. Most will deny it, but there is little question in my mind about most of them - they would absolutely back any attack against innocent people -providing the victims were Muslim.

I've been on a few marches. Quite a few, actually. Cracking a few Muslim heads together sure beats the hell out of complaining about it online, but nowhere near as good as bashing a few of the Antifa goons that protest on behalf of the unwelcome savages and their religion. It actually felt really liberating, if you must know.

Yea, they are a peacful group.

 

[numan]

What I do find curious is the number of posters here keen to associate themselves with a movement their parents fought a war to stop.

The dogs return to their vomit.

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