Since when does the Catholic Church have the right to force their religious values...

[The T]

denying women benefits that are available to the majority, just because of the type of sign over the door, is medieval. Revel in it.

I support your right to believe that. Don't work for the Catholic Church. I support your right not to work for the Catholic Church.

Why can you not support our right to live slightly differently to you? What is so outrageous that you cannot accept anyone else's lifestyles but those you 'tolerate'? Why do you insist on 'freedom for me, but not for thee'?

People like dot dork live in a bubble...and have no clue to true liberty. He thinks it comes from gubmint.

 

[The T]

denying women benefits that are available to the majority, just because of the type of sign over the door, is medieval. Revel in it.

So then, there is no seperation of church and state?

even Muslim clerics have come out against this decision

so we know Papa Obama will change it now

All religions should stand shoulder to shoulder against this...even athesists...it's an affront to the First Amendment.

Even the useful idiots this regime relies upon stand to lose.

Just ask those that lived in Russia during the Soviet regime...the useful idiots eventually found themselves in Siberia as enemies after the government stopped using them.

 

[Neotrotsky]

I hear you and agree

but the Progressives seem to care and cater more to what Muslims say than
Christians

Plus, the only way the MSM will even admit there is a problem and follow up with it
if groups, besides, Christians complain

Really, if they tried to regulate a ban on face covering like French did
how long would that last here in the US ? ...

 

[The T]

I hear you and agree

but the Progressives seem to care and cater more to what Muslims say than
Christians

They seem to as I have read. They have no clue that just agreeing with radical Islam does not guarantee isolation or redemption from the same radicals...in fact if Islam has it's way? THEY will be the first infidels to get thier heads lopped off for being stupid.

 

[Katzndogz]

Women that don't want to pay for birth control, or hike over to a free clinic are free to take the top off that empty beer can and stand on the corner with a big sign saying "Can't afford to ****. Please Help".

 

[Neotrotsky]

I am waiting for the Progressives to play the "it's for the children" card
Of course advocating abortion and such, it might be a hard sell

Really, who wants some religion to tell you want to do
when you have the gov't so willing and capable to guide
us to a moral life

 

[ScreamingEagle]

denying women benefits that are available to the majority, just because of the type of sign over the door, is medieval. Revel in it.

There's more to it than just a "sign over the door"....

Former Pope John Paul II wrote about a 50 page letter to every Catholic in the world called Evangelium Vitae, in 1995. The title means "Gospel of life" and the Pope said that we should always promote a "culture of life."

Evangelium vitae - Table of Contents - IntraText SC

from Chapter I....

13. In order to facilitate the spread of abortion, enormous sums of money have been invested and continue to be invested in the production of pharmaceutical products which make it possible to kill the fetus in the mother's womb without recourse to medical assistance. On this point, scientific research itself seems to be almost exclusively preoccupied with developing products which are ever more simple and effective in suppressing life and which at the same time are capable of removing abortion from any kind of control or social responsibility.

It is frequently asserted that contraception, if made safe and available to all, is the most effective remedy against abortion. The Catholic Church is then accused of actually promoting abortion, because she obstinately continues to teach the moral unlawfulness of contraception. When looked at carefully, this objection is clearly unfounded. It may be that many people use contraception with a view to excluding the subsequent temptation of abortion. But the negative values inherent in the "contraceptive mentality"-which is very different from responsible parenthood, lived in respect for the full truth of the conjugal act-are such that they in fact strengthen this temptation when an unwanted life is conceived. Indeed, the pro- abortion culture is especially strong precisely where the Church's teaching on contraception is rejected. Certainly, from the moral point of view contraception and abortion arespecifically different evils: the former contradicts the full truth of the sexual act as the proper expression of conjugal love, while the latter destroys the life of a human being; the former is opposed to the virtue of chastity in marriage, the latter is opposed to the virtue of justice and directly violates the divine commandment "You shall not kill".

But despite their differences of nature and moral gravity, contraception and abortion are often closely connected, as fruits of the same tree. It is true that in many cases contraception and even abortion are practised under the pressure of real- life difficulties, which nonetheless can never exonerate from striving to observe God's law fully. Still, in very many other instances such practices are rooted in a hedonistic mentality unwilling to accept responsibility in matters of sexuality, and they imply a self-centered concept of freedom, which regards procreation as an obstacle to personal fulfilment. The life which could result from a sexual encounter thus becomes an enemy to be avoided at all costs, and abortion becomes the only possible decisive response to failed contraception.

The close connection which exists, in mentality, between the practice of contraception and that of abortion is becoming increasingly obvious. It is being demonstrated in an alarming way by the development of chemical products, intrauterine devices and vaccines which, distributed with the same ease as contraceptives, really act as abortifacients in the very early stages of the development of the life of the new human being.

 

[The T]

denying women benefits that are available to the majority, just because of the type of sign over the door, is medieval. Revel in it.

Translation: "I am afraid of a theocracy even though the Constitution fobids it, but then I support the Obama as he circumvents the Constitution by attacking religion and the First Amendment..."

 

[Katzndogz]

If the democrats get away with this, the question IS being asked, what's next? What freedom, what religion will go next?

I love it. Boehner is going to introduce a bill repealing this and make every democrat in the house and senate stand up and expose themselves.

 

[Intense]

...on their non Catholic employees?

Churches are exempt from the ruling.

However, religious institutions that employ and serve people outside their faith -- hospitals, elementary schools, universities -- have to comply with the requirement to cover birth control if they offer health insurance coverage for employees. That means such Catholic institutions, which employ and serve wide swaths of non-Catholics across the country, will not be exempt, despite church teachings against use of contraception.

Obama Administration's New Contraception Rule Puts Key Catholic Vote at Risk

What gives the Catholic church (or any church, for that matter) the right to force their religious convictions on employees who aren't even catholic?

They are not. Buy your condoms on your own dime.

 

[Neotrotsky]

Besides

if they want free condoms, they can just get the ones their kids
get at school for free (without parental knowledge)
See it is good when the gov't pushes morality but
stupid things like religion, forget about it,...

 

[California Girl]

If the democrats get away with this, the question IS being asked, what's next? What freedom, what religion will go next?

I love it. Boehner is going to introduce a bill repealing this and make every democrat in the house and senate stand up and expose themselves.

Is he? Oh cool!

 

[Papageorgio]

If someone doesn't want to follow the rules in a Catholic (or other Christian) hospital or business (like a catholic college) then they don't have to work there! When you hire into a job, they let you know their rules and how their company is run. If you don't like it...leave! But of course i believe one of Obama's top priorities is to take Christianity right out of the picture.

That's sounds rationale and way to easy. I'm not sure if that will float.

 

[Intense]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDJTReCLFWE&feature=related]Grand Funk Rail Road - Creepin - 1973 - YouTube[/ame]
Grand Funk Rail Road - Creepin - 1973

 

[Intense]

WASHINGTON (BP) -- The fallout from Planned Parenthood's triumph in its public relations war with Susan G. Komen for the Cure continues, even as a new report to Congress suggests 20 percent of the abortion provider's affiliates could be guilty of waste and fraud involving government funds.

Karen Handel
Karen Handel, Komen's senior vice president for public policy, resigned Feb. 7, only a week after her organization's decision to defund Planned Parenthood was reported. Her resignation was not a shock after an onslaught of Planned Parenthood-fueled outrage against the world's leading breast cancer charity prompted Komen to backtrack Feb. 3 by announcing Planned Parenthood affiliates would remain eligible for grants.

Meanwhile, the Alliance Defense Fund (ADF) -- in a report prepared for a congressional investigation of the country's No. 1 abortion provider -- released evidence Feb. 7 showing waste, abuse and potential fraud by Planned Parenthood affiliates. Among its findings, ADF reported audits of seven of 79 affiliates over a 14-year period found nearly $8 million of fraud, waste and abuse.

The Planned Parenthood Federation of America (PPFA) and its affiliates received $487.4 million in government grants, contracts and reimbursements alone in 2009-10, the most recent year for which statistics are available. PPFA clinics performed 329,445 abortions in 2010, which was more than one-fourth of the lethal procedures in the United States for the year.

Some critics of Komen's defunding decision had targeted Handel for blame in the organization's initial decision to halt grants to PPFA affiliates. A former Georgia secretary of State, she called for defunding Planned Parenthood during an unsuccessful gubernatorial run in 2010.

Baptist Press - Controversy sticks with Komen, Planned Parent. - News with a Christian Perspective

 

[The T]

If the democrats get away with this, the question IS being asked, what's next? What freedom, what religion will go next?

I love it. Boehner is going to introduce a bill repealing this and make every democrat in the house and senate stand up and expose themselves.

That would be a sight to see. We will see whom the cowards/political unprincipled shills are...

 

[saveliberty]

You know if Obama had just made this a commendment instead of a law....

 

[Papageorgio]

If the democrats get away with this, the question IS being asked, what's next? What freedom, what religion will go next?

I love it. Boehner is going to introduce a bill repealing this and make every democrat in the house and senate stand up and expose themselves.

Great point, Obamacare is already forcing individuals to purchase a service in order to be a legal resident, now the want to move into the religious realm and force their religious viewpoint on people even if it goes against their religious belief system and conscience. People need to voice their opinions to their congressman and let them know that trampling the Constitution will cost them the PEOPLE'S vote.
And spare the no cost BS! Is anyone that stupid that insurance companies wont factor the cost in? Get real!

 

[The T]

You know if Obama had just made this a commendment instead of a law....

"The seas would recede, Global Warming would cool, the Dumbmasses would congeal..."

 

[Neotrotsky]

WASHINGTON (BP) -- The fallout from Planned Parenthood's triumph in its public relations war with Susan G. Komen for the Cure continues, even as a new report to Congress suggests 20 percent of the abortion provider's affiliates could be guilty of waste and fraud involving government funds.

Karen Handel
Karen Handel, Komen's senior vice president for public policy, resigned Feb. 7, only a week after her organization's decision to defund Planned Parenthood was reported. Her resignation was not a shock after an onslaught of Planned Parenthood-fueled outrage against the world's leading breast cancer charity prompted Komen to backtrack Feb. 3 by announcing Planned Parenthood affiliates would remain eligible for grants.

Meanwhile, the Alliance Defense Fund (ADF) -- in a report prepared for a congressional investigation of the country's No. 1 abortion provider -- released evidence Feb. 7 showing waste, abuse and potential fraud by Planned Parenthood affiliates. Among its findings, ADF reported audits of seven of 79 affiliates over a 14-year period found nearly $8 million of fraud, waste and abuse.

The Planned Parenthood Federation of America (PPFA) and its affiliates received $487.4 million in government grants, contracts and reimbursements alone in 2009-10, the most recent year for which statistics are available. PPFA clinics performed 329,445 abortions in 2010, which was more than one-fourth of the lethal procedures in the United States for the year.

Some critics of Komen's defunding decision had targeted Handel for blame in the organization's initial decision to halt grants to PPFA affiliates. A former Georgia secretary of State, she called for defunding Planned Parenthood during an unsuccessful gubernatorial run in 2010.

Baptist Press - Controversy sticks with Komen, Planned Parent. - News with a Christian Perspective

t/p Moonbattery
Check out this strange cartoon they made in 1995
For some reason Planned Parenthood has taken it off their website

Curiously, all who oppose the abortion rights folks are white people. The first scene has a strangely attired man telling kids about abstinence.

They say Planned Parenthood is the place to go for ”all your healthcare needs and reproductive advice.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9l0SAVeK2Rg]Planned Parenthood Propaganda Video: A Superhero for Choice - YouTube[/ame]