Since we live in a country where a majority of Americans are in agreement............

[Edgetho]

......on issues like abortion, gun control, climate change, immigration, campaign finance reform, etc., why isn't the majority's wishes reflected in public policy?

Maybe because we're not a democracy, you blithering fukking idiot.

We are a Republic.

Go back to the 9th grade and pay attention this time.

 

[Lesh]

So you don't care about the voice of the individual states, or the needs and wishes of the people in them. You just want to dissolve the federal system?

YOU want to ignore the wishes of the majority… because you are in the minority

 

[berg80]

Maybe because we're not a democracy, you blithering fukking idiot.

We are a Republic.

Go back to the 9th grade and pay attention this time.

Yup, I've heard that one before. Please read this.

The Real Reason Why Republicans Keep Saying “We’re a Republic, Not a Democracy”

The author of Democracy May Not Exist on a sinister new talking point.

slate.com

 

[berg80]

YOU want to ignore the wishes of the majority… because you are on the minority

Not just ignore them, defend the structural deficiencies in our government that allow them to.

 

[MisterBeale]

YOU want to ignore the wishes of the majority… because you are in the minority

Bingo! That is because I had a real education on how a federated republic is meant to operate, how civil rights and civil rights are guaranteed to individuals and states, regardless of the will of the majority. duh.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Your opinion of the majority is in error.

 

[Blaster]

Do some research on the positions of a majority of Americans on the aforementioned issues and get back to me.

I did and I stand by my statement.

 

[Auld Phart]

I have no problem understanding what you are saying. It's just that it's horseshit.

ironic

 

[RetiredGySgt]

No need for gratuitous insults to make up for an inability to articulate a cogent argument. AL was not part of the original 13 colonies.

there were big differences in population even then

 

[Edgetho]

Yup, I've heard that one before. Please read this.

The Real Reason Why Republicans Keep Saying “We’re a Republic, Not a Democracy”

The author of Democracy May Not Exist on a sinister new talking point.

slate.com

The reason we keep saying we are a Republic is simple -- We are a Republic. Fuking period.

It says so in the US Constitution.

It is not semantics, it is not word-play it is FACT.

Our Founders knew what a democracy was. Completely and totally. I mean, democracy is only about 2,500 years old. They knew.

They knew what a Republic was, too. They're at least as old. Especially if you include the Etruscans

There was a big difference 2,500 years ago and there is a big difference today. WE ARE A MOTHaFUkKING REPUBLIC!!

Got it?

You want to change that, call for a Constitutional Convention. I'll join you in that call.

Until then, do us all a favor and take your juvenile drivel back to DailyKooks

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Leaving millions of people under represented.

senators DONT represnt people they represent the State

 

[Lesh]

Bingo! That is because I had a real education on how a federated republic is meant to operate, how civil rights and civil rights are guaranteed to individuals and states, regardless of the will of the majority. duh.

Why do I think that if you were not on the minority that your opinion would be different?

Oh yeah. I’ve read your posts and you are a dishonest hypocrite

 

[berg80]

But it’s 2024 when Shor’s projected Senate Götterdämmerung really strikes. To see how bad the map is for Democrats, think back to 2018, when anti-Trump fury drove record turnout and handed the House gavel back to Nancy Pelosi. Senate Democrats saw the same huge surge of voters. Nationally, they won about 18 million more votes than Senate Republicans — and they still lost two seats. If 2024 is simply a normal year, in which Democrats win 51 percent of the two-party vote, Shor’s model projects a seven-seat loss, compared with where they are now.

Sit with that. Senate Democrats could win 51 percent of the two-party vote in the next two elections and end up with only 43 seats in the Senate.

Opinion | David Shor Is Telling Democrats What They Don’t Want to Hear (Published 2021)

His forecasting model shows a looming disaster for Senate Democrats. Are they going to do anything about it?

www.nytimes.com

 

[berg80]

senators DONT represnt people they represent the State

You've hit on the problem.

 

[dblack]

......on issues like abortion, gun control, climate change, immigration, campaign finance reform, etc., why isn't the majority's wishes reflected in public policy?

Because there's no consensus. It takes more than majority rule to govern a nation.

 

[Lesh]

The reason we keep saying we are a Republic is simple -- We are a Republic. Fuking period.

It says so in the US Constitution.

It is not semantics, it is not word-play it is FACT.

Our Founders knew what a democracy was. Completely and totally. I mean, democracy is only about 2,500 years old. They knew.

They knew what a Republic was, too. They're at least as old. Especially if you include the Etruscans

There was a big difference 2,500 years ago and there is a big difference today. WE ARE A MOTHaFUkKING REPUBLIC!!

Got it?

You want to change that, call for a Constitutional Convention. I'll join you in that call.

Until then, do us all a favor and take your juvenile drivel back to DailyKooks

We are a REPRESENTATIVE DEMOCRACY.

And currently the minority has found ways to achieve more representation than their numbers allow

 

[Edgetho]

Bingo! That is because I had a real education on how a federated republic is meant to operate, how civil rights and civil rights are guaranteed to individuals and states, regardless of the will of the majority. duh.

If we'd a democracy back in 1860, and we voted on whether or not to continue the institution of Slavery, there would have been no Civil War, no emancipation. There is absolutely no question of that.

But we had a Republic and thoughtful people said, "Umm, no. We don't want slavery. It sucks."

No democracy has ever survived for very long at all. Republics work, democracies do not. It is simply a tyranny of the masses.

 

[Lesh]

Because there's no consensus. It takes more than majority rule to govern a nation.

What’s your definition of consensus?

 

[Lesh]

If we'd a democracy back in 1860, and we voted on whether or not to continue the institution of Slavery, there would have been no Civil War, no emancipation. There is absolutely no question of that.

But we had a Republic and thoughtful people said, "Umm, no. We don't want slavery. It sucks."

No democracy has ever survived for very long at all. Republics work, democracies do not. It is simply a tyranny of the masses.

You keep taking about pure democracy.

We don’t have that and don’t want that

 

[Flash]

. You just want to dissolve the federal system?

We don't need to abolish the Federal Government. We need it for Defense, veteran's affairs, state department, patent office and a few other minor things.

Just get rid of all the unnecessary and costly bullshit it does.

If anybody doesn't know what those unnecessary things are I will be glad to give examples.