Since it Keeps Coming Up...

[Moonglow]

Correct, they are less concerned bout the viability of training in schools that will get them jobs than they are allowing students to take in insane amounts of debt for a degree that they will use to get a job working a McDonalds.

McDonald's managers make bank and get free cars.

 

[Unkotare]

Look at any peer reviewed article on whether education leans left and they all say that it does.
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Thanks for missing the point completely.

 

[Seymour Flops]

FYI:

• NO, not all teachers are liberals.

correct.

• NO, there is no vetting of prospective teachers for liberal political views.

Not officially.

• NO, conservative teachers do not "keep their mouths shut" for fear of repercussions.

Conservatives in any job tend to keep their mouths shut because we know it is inappropriate to bring up topics unrelated to work that tend to be devisive. Meanwhile some liberals view the workplace as a free speech forum with a captive audience.

• NO, unions do NOT order, influence, or demand any particular teaching topics or approaches to individual teachers.

They try to influence teaching, but administration determines curriculum.

• NO, local school districts do NOT take their marching orders from the federal government.

More to come...

They are influenced by federal dollars and guided by laws like IDEA.

• In 31 years of teaching, I have never seen a cross-dressing guest reader for students of any age.

Great, but it does happen. Once is way too often.

• On a quick stroll around the school this morning I saw exactly ZERO rainbow flags but saw an American flag in each classroom.

What state? I have seen very few rainbow flags or other leftie vitue signalling in Texas schools, either.

• I've never heard any of my colleagues try to push the idea that America is a terrible, evil country on their students.

Me neither, but it is Texas.

• I DO hear the Pledge of Allegiance recited every morning; "under God" and all.

Yes.

More to come...

Good posts, kerp them coming.

From me as a 40-something year nonteacher, then an 18 year teacher:

Teachers who are conservatives will discuss with other conservatives once they get to know them. Conservatives are easy to identify through nonpolitical conversation.

Talks about grandchildren - likely conservative.

Calls cats "my fur babies" probable liberal, that kind of thing.

As a con I had conservative ideas about education before starting to teach. Some have been reinforced, while others have changed.

Examples:

I used to think it was wrong to tell boys not to fight back if bullied. Seeing it in practice, i think it is either insane or a deliberate attempt to de-masculinize male children.

I used to oppose medicine for ADHD. Now, the biggest problem I see with it is parents being inconsistent in making kids take it.

 

[Unkotare]

Correct, they are less concerned bout the viability of training in schools that will get them jobs than they are allowing students to take in insane amounts of debt for a degree that they will use to get a job working a McDonalds.

This kind of ignorant falsehood ^^^ is why this thread was started.

 

[Unkotare]

Public schools place more emphasis on college prep than in the past....

False.

 

[Unkotare]

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Moreover, look at how K through 12 operate. ...

Have you? With your own two eyes?

 

[Unkotare]

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Just look at this high schooler who refused to protest guns. He was told he either had to protest on school hours with the other kids or go to study hall. Instead, he sat in science class where he was supposed to be...

Why didn't he go to study hall as instructed?

 

[Votto]

Thanks for missing the point completely.

Which is?

 

[Votto]

Why didn't he go to study hall as instructed?

Because it was time for science class

It is unforgiveable for state run schools to not teach academics on the taxpayers dime and instead either be warehoused in a study hall instead or go out protesting guns.

They are there for an education, and not political activism for the DNC and indoctrination.

 

[Votto]

Have you? With your own two eyes?

Yes.

Again, pretty much everyone has been through the system and seen how left wing it was, and sees youth today go through it as they talk about it and as stories like the ones, I provided talk about it, yet you refuse to see?


Why?

It's like trying to convince people that Joe Biden does not really have dementia after the Joe Biden debate with Trump

Sheer insanity.

But who cares because the state control everything and continues not to reverse course, even with Trump in power.

 

[Winston]

Conservatives in any job tend to keep their mouths shut because we know it is inappropriate to bring up topics unrelated to work that tend to be devisive. Meanwhile some liberals view the workplace as a free speech forum with a captive audience.

I believe that depends on your location. I am as liberal as they come but I live in one of the reddest districts in the country. I keep my mouth shut at work and in my professional interactions.

And the local school district? I will never forget middle school orientation for my oldest son, parents were invited in and the principal gave a speech that sounded damn close to a Republican stump speech. It was horrible, and insulting. Needless to say, that "orientation" kept me on my toes. In the end, you can complain about school bias all you want, at some point, parents have to take responsibility and adapt counter measures.

 

[Unkotare]

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And what of the gender cult being taught in schools?
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What schools? Have you seen that in "schools" with your own eyes either?

 

[Unkotare]

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Gender confusion is up 4000% among kids due to it being pumped in the media and the schools in various ways.
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What ways? Do you have proof of this "due to"?

 

[Unkotare]

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You even have issues with teachers not telling parents that they use new pronouns and identify as another gender.
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Again, 31+ years and I've never seen this in any school. Have you? Seen for yourself, sans Google?

 

[Zincwarrior]

Also:

• On a quick stroll around the school this morning I saw exactly ZERO rainbow flags but saw an American flag in each classroom.

In high school I had a French teacher with all the flags of countries where French was spoken. It was cool.
I don't think it was every classroom, but I remember classrooms with both the US Flag and the Texas Flag.

In the elementary school the kids attended one room was painted all over with rainbows, and butterflies and cute little bees. It was one of the Kindergarten classrooms. Very nice.

 

[Unkotare]

If education does not lean left, how then can universities defend all minorities and expel any student who threatens minorities [sic] ...

Jewish students are minorities at many universities. You didn't notice them being threatened? You mentioned it yourself.

 

[Unkotare]

We have all been through the system and know it leans left.
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"Leans" (shouts) left has not been the talking point by the hysterical Googlers here. I have seen many people post bullshit like "all schools," and "they screen for political views," and "are forced out," and such here many times. So have you, if you're honest.

 

[Zincwarrior]

False.

I would submit it depends on the school district. Our school district definitely did. It showed off by showing how many went to Ivy League and Tier One Research universities every year. And thats what the parents wanted, else we would have fired the Board.

 

[Unkotare]

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But many have not been exposed to how much more Left wing it is, with the gender cult and climate cult and DEI cult in the mix today.

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Have you?

 

[Unkotare]

Public run education is more like indoctrination that education.

Period.

Ignorant bullshit.