Shut Up And Give The UN More Money

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Chuckie Shumer has said the US taxpayer need to dig deep and fork over nearly $2 billion to repair the Useless Nations Building

This from the clown who back in the 90's demanded a Federal investgation into cereal prices

Chuckie says the UN building is not safe. His solution ? What else, spend a ridiculous amount of money.

The United Nations is a disaster waiting to happen [ed. Some of us would argue that the disaster that is the UN has been happening for years] _ a potential towering inferno that could be as devastating for workers, staff and visitors as the terror attacks on the World Trade Center’s twin towers, a U.S. senator said Sunday.

Calling the 39-story, glass-walled Secretariat building on the East River a “firetrap” that violates many sections of New York City’s building code, Sen. Charles Schumer, D-N.Y., said U.N. Secretary General Kofi Annan and U.S. Ambassador John Bolton should “make it a priority” to force through a $1.6 billion renovation program.

“The United Nations’ grave state of disrepair may be hidden, but it is putting the health and safety of thousands who work within the building and in the area in a real degree of danger,” Schumer told a news conference on the street in front of the landmark complex.

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The plan to renovate the complex and bring it up to code has been in talking stages since 2000 but has been bogged down in political and bureaucratic delays, Schumer said, adding that “every day it is not done adds another $225,000 to the cost.”

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Under the U.N.’s existing assessment formula, the United States would pay 22 percent of the cost of renovation. But the plan has stalled in part over the refusal of Congress to approve expenditures that are not “transparent,” and by the New York state legislature’s rejection of plans for alternative space to house the world body’s operations for three to four years.

So we pay 22% of $ 1.6 bil…. that’s $352 million. The Pentagon, widely known as the largest office building in the world, is 6.5 million square feet (SF). For $1.6 bil you could build a new Pentagon-sized building for just under $250/sf. That’s a ridiculously high $/sf. The UN building, however, is much smaller, so the $/sf higher still.

I was in NYC recently. There are millions of empty sf in buildings that are just sitting there unused. Why can’t the UN renovate some of those buildings and rent Madison Square Garden when they need to get together and pass useless resolutions that they don’t backup ?

I like this idea. (massive understatement alert)

Developer Donald Trump later offered to do the job for $600 million to $700 million _ half the U.N.’s cost estimate _ manage the project and waive his own fees.

“They don’t know what they want, they don’t know what they have, they don’t know what they’re doing,” Trump told a Senate hearing.

“Don’t know what they’re doing”…. no kidding, Don.


Also, he is asking the US taxpayers pay $4 million to fix up Kofie's pad. Poor guy needs a decent place to live now he will be unemployed starting Jan 1. 2007
 
Screw that. Buy about 4000 planes tickets to Switzerland - economy class, of cource - and for about $2.5M you can get the UN out of the US for good!
 
So republicans are against the U.N.? Which republican is advocating pulling out?
 
US participation in UN must stop.Now.


Why? I thought that was how the U.S could keep up its agenda against terror , N.K , Iran etc etc. If U.S pulls out of U.N ..I guess no one will ever support any American interference/action in any part of the world. What the U.S can do is stop funding the U.N. Isn't it the "UNITED NATIONS"? Tell the EU to cough up some cash for the U.N. I heard the U.S is the biggest U.N donor in terms of funds to keep the organization running. The European Union consists of some of the most richest nations on the planet.Tell them to pay up also to keep the U.N running.And one thing I don't understand is why should the U.S alone pay for renovating the U.N HQ? Why don't the EU and the U.S pay for it together? Same goes for the Intl Space Station. Why do NASA astronauts alone have to go and repair it? Why not the European Space Agency astros?

I know that the U.S can afford it..But , I mean the U.N works for the world and not only America..So why shouldn't your Atlantic counterparts pay also?


Akshay
 
Yeah, he was just reelected to the house. He's not really much of a republican, in the modern sense of the word though.

That's my point really. Being against the UN is really not a position of either party. Not really. (on edit: I'm adding another really) Selling out america is what unites the two parties. Republicans like the "selling"; democrats like the "out america". Republicans have come to believe that anything that turns a profit is automatically good, even though we always can and should say not to trade that weakens our nation. And democrats are slaking their anti-american thirst by just staying silent and allowing the fascists to build the machine. The democratic main role is to keep the anti-white, anti-christian, anti-male bigotry firmly in place.
 
That's my point really. Being against the UN is really not a position of either party. Not really. Selling out america is what unites the two parties. Republicans like the "selling"; democrats like the "out america". Republicans have come to believe that anything that turns a profit is automatically good, even though we always can and should say not to trade that weakens our nation. And democrats are slaking their anti-american thirst by just staying silent and allowing the fascists to build the machine. The democratic main role is keep the anti-white, anti-christian, anti-male bigotry firmly in place.



The Useless Nations is such a waste of money. Libs bow before the Un and gleefully hand over taxpayer money into this bottomles rat hole

News Media Still Yawning Over Rampant UN Corruption
Filed Under: Articles, U.N., Iraq, Crime, History, Op-Ed

The United Nations Oil for Food Program was probably the biggest scam in the history of geopolitics. Not only did the program fill the pockets of corrupt politicians, diplomats and businessmen, but it also allowed Iraq’s dictator Saddam Hussein to continue building up his military with the help of such countries as Russia and France.

The US news media continue to yawn over the UN scandal involving participants in the Oil for Food Program. In fairness, only part of the reason is the media’s hesitancy to criticize an organization that is practically sacrosanct in the view of liberals. A large part of the media’s failure to report on the UN malfeasance is that it is such a complicated case of fraud, duplicity and mendacity that reporters find themselves incapable of dumbing down the story for human consumption.

In 1996, the United Nations (UN) Security Council and Iraq began the Oil for Food program to address Iraq’s humanitarian situation after sanctions were imposed in 1990. More than $67 billion in oil revenue was obtained through the program, with $31 billion in humanitarian assistance delivered to Iraq. The 2005 Defense Authorization Act mandated that GAO review the Oil for Food program.

The UN Oil for Food program would have benefited from an internationally accepted internal control framework to provide reasonable assurance in safeguarding assets and meeting program objectives.

Although the program averted a humanitarian crisis while limiting Iraq’s ability to purchase military-related items, internal control problems allowed the former Iraqi regime to manipulate the program and circumvent sanctions to obtain billions of dollars in illicit payments.

In particular, weaknesses in the control environment of the Oil for Food program compromised oversight and made it vulnerable to fraud and abuse. For example, Iraq negotiated contracts directly with companies purchasing its oil and selling commodities.

In the absence of UN oversight, Iraq manipulated contract terms and obtained kickbacks. Moreover, the program had a complex structure with unclear lines of responsibility and authority. This diffusion among various entities meant that no single entity was accountable for the program in its entirety. This allowed all parties involved to perpetrate fraud without fear of detection.

The Oil for Food program also had weaknesses in the four key internal control standards –risk assessment, control activities, information and communication, and monitoring — that facilitated Iraq’s ability to obtain illicit revenues ranging from $7.4 billion to $12.8 billion. In particular, the UN did not provide for timely assessments to address the risks posed by Iraq’s control over contracting and the program’s expansion from emergency assistance to commodities for 24 sectors.

The UN Security Council established the UN Compensation Commission (UNCC) in 1991 to process claims and pay victims of Iraq’s invasion of Kuwait. Security Council resolution 986 provided that a portion of proceeds from Iraq oil sales would go to the compensation fund.

The commission approved awards of $52.5 billion to more than 1.5 million claimants and has paid more than $20 billion of this amount; however, Iraq still owes almost $32.2 billion in unpaid awards. Future payments for these awards could extend through 2020. These unpaid awards are in addition to the $51 billion that Iraq owes to international creditors.

The Oil for Food program offers several lessons for designing future sanctions and strengthening existing UN programs: assess whether the sanctions program gives undue control to the sanctioned country; consider the economic impact that sanctions have on neighboring countries; ensure that all aspects of sanctions are equally enforced; establish clear authority and responsibility for management, oversight, and monitoring activities; assess and mitigate risk as programs and funding expand; and assess the role of internal oversight units and ensure that they have the resources and independence needed for effective oversight.

Read more by this author on our site here. (Scroll down)

Jim Kouri, CPP is currently fifth vice-president of the National Association of Chiefs of Police and he’s a staff writer for the New Media Alliance. He’s former chief at a New York City housing project in Washington Heights nicknamed “Crack City” by reporters covering the drug war in the 1980s. In addition, he served as director of public safety at a New Jersey university and director of security for several major organizations. He’s also served on the National Drug Task Force and trained police and security officers throughout the country. Kouri writes for many police and security magazines including Chief of Police, Police Times, The Narc Officer and others. He’s a news writer for TheConservativeVoice.Com. He’s also a columnist for AmericanDaily.Com, MensNewsDaily.Com, MichNews.Com, and he’s syndicated by AXcessNews.Com. He’s appeared as on-air commentator for over 100 TV and radio news and talk shows including Oprah, McLaughlin Report, CNN Headline News, MTV, Fox News, etc.

http://www.californiaconservative.org/?p=3022
 
I will raise you 50 bucks and toss in Michael Moore and Rosie

Of course you will have to find funding for the JUMBO jet required to haul their fat asses
 
The Useless Nations is such a waste of money. Libs bow before the Un and gleefully hand over taxpayer money into this bottomles rat hole

News Media Still Yawning Over Rampant UN Corruption
Filed Under: Articles, U.N., Iraq, Crime, History, Op-Ed

The United Nations Oil for Food Program was probably the biggest scam in the history of geopolitics. Not only did the program fill the pockets of corrupt politicians, diplomats and businessmen, but it also allowed Iraq’s dictator Saddam Hussein to continue building up his military with the help of such countries as Russia and France.

The US news media continue to yawn over the UN scandal involving participants in the Oil for Food Program. In fairness, only part of the reason is the media’s hesitancy to criticize an organization that is practically sacrosanct in the view of liberals. A large part of the media’s failure to report on the UN malfeasance is that it is such a complicated case of fraud, duplicity and mendacity that reporters find themselves incapable of dumbing down the story for human consumption.

In 1996, the United Nations (UN) Security Council and Iraq began the Oil for Food program to address Iraq’s humanitarian situation after sanctions were imposed in 1990. More than $67 billion in oil revenue was obtained through the program, with $31 billion in humanitarian assistance delivered to Iraq. The 2005 Defense Authorization Act mandated that GAO review the Oil for Food program.

The UN Oil for Food program would have benefited from an internationally accepted internal control framework to provide reasonable assurance in safeguarding assets and meeting program objectives.

Although the program averted a humanitarian crisis while limiting Iraq’s ability to purchase military-related items, internal control problems allowed the former Iraqi regime to manipulate the program and circumvent sanctions to obtain billions of dollars in illicit payments.

In particular, weaknesses in the control environment of the Oil for Food program compromised oversight and made it vulnerable to fraud and abuse. For example, Iraq negotiated contracts directly with companies purchasing its oil and selling commodities.

In the absence of UN oversight, Iraq manipulated contract terms and obtained kickbacks. Moreover, the program had a complex structure with unclear lines of responsibility and authority. This diffusion among various entities meant that no single entity was accountable for the program in its entirety. This allowed all parties involved to perpetrate fraud without fear of detection.

The Oil for Food program also had weaknesses in the four key internal control standards –risk assessment, control activities, information and communication, and monitoring — that facilitated Iraq’s ability to obtain illicit revenues ranging from $7.4 billion to $12.8 billion. In particular, the UN did not provide for timely assessments to address the risks posed by Iraq’s control over contracting and the program’s expansion from emergency assistance to commodities for 24 sectors.

The UN Security Council established the UN Compensation Commission (UNCC) in 1991 to process claims and pay victims of Iraq’s invasion of Kuwait. Security Council resolution 986 provided that a portion of proceeds from Iraq oil sales would go to the compensation fund.

The commission approved awards of $52.5 billion to more than 1.5 million claimants and has paid more than $20 billion of this amount; however, Iraq still owes almost $32.2 billion in unpaid awards. Future payments for these awards could extend through 2020. These unpaid awards are in addition to the $51 billion that Iraq owes to international creditors.

The Oil for Food program offers several lessons for designing future sanctions and strengthening existing UN programs: assess whether the sanctions program gives undue control to the sanctioned country; consider the economic impact that sanctions have on neighboring countries; ensure that all aspects of sanctions are equally enforced; establish clear authority and responsibility for management, oversight, and monitoring activities; assess and mitigate risk as programs and funding expand; and assess the role of internal oversight units and ensure that they have the resources and independence needed for effective oversight.

Read more by this author on our site here. (Scroll down)

Jim Kouri, CPP is currently fifth vice-president of the National Association of Chiefs of Police and he’s a staff writer for the New Media Alliance. He’s former chief at a New York City housing project in Washington Heights nicknamed “Crack City” by reporters covering the drug war in the 1980s. In addition, he served as director of public safety at a New Jersey university and director of security for several major organizations. He’s also served on the National Drug Task Force and trained police and security officers throughout the country. Kouri writes for many police and security magazines including Chief of Police, Police Times, The Narc Officer and others. He’s a news writer for TheConservativeVoice.Com. He’s also a columnist for AmericanDaily.Com, MensNewsDaily.Com, MichNews.Com, and he’s syndicated by AXcessNews.Com. He’s appeared as on-air commentator for over 100 TV and radio news and talk shows including Oprah, McLaughlin Report, CNN Headline News, MTV, Fox News, etc.

http://www.californiaconservative.org/?p=3022



Yes. It sucks. Im on your side brother, but you're giving republicans a pass. There is no real desire or effort of any prominent republican to get out of it. Ron Paul is not enough. The future of our country relies on people getting out of the two party false dichotomy.
 
Over 2,000 Companies Paid Oil-for-Food Bribes

UNITED NATIONS — About 2,200 companies in the U.N. Oil-for-Food program, including corporations in France, Germany and Russia, paid a total of $1.8 billion in kickbacks and illicit surcharges to Saddam Hussein's government, a U.N.-backed investigation said in a report released Thursday.

The report from the committee probing claims of wrongdoing in the $64 billion program said prominent politicians also made money from extensive manipulation of the U.N. Oil-for-Food program in Iraq.

The investigators reported that companies and individuals from 66 countries paid illegal kickbacks using a variety of ways, and those paying illegal oil surcharges came from, or were registered in, 40 countries.

• Click here to view the full report. (pdf)

Germany-based automaker DaimlerChrysler, meanwhile, appears to have paid just $7,000 on a contract worth $70,000. DaimlerChrysler AG didn't immediately return a call seeking comment from its offices in Stuttgart, Germany.

In July, DaimlerChrysler said it had been asked for a statement and documents regarding its role in the oil-for-food program, according to documents filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission.

The report said, for example, that Brussels-based Volvo Construction Equipment paid $317,000 in extra fees to the Iraqi government on a $6.4 million contract. Volvo Construction is part of Swedish-based Volvo Group, which referred all questions to Volvo Construction Equipment's headquarters in Brussels. The group is separate from Volvo automobiles, which is owned by Ford.

Beatrice Cardon, a Volvo spokeswoman, said she was unaware the company was listed in the U.N. report, or what the alleged payments were for.

"I have no clue. This is the first I hear about it," Cardon said.

The report alleged that Jean-Bernard Merrimee, France's former U.N. ambassador, received $165,725 in commissions from oil allocations awarded to him by the Iraqi regime. He is now under investigation by the French authorities.

Merrimee "began receiving oil allocations that would ultimately total approximately 6 million barrels from the government of Iraq," the report said.

Other so-called "political beneficiaries" included British lawmaker George Galloway; Roberto Formigoni, the president of the Lombardi region in Italy, and the Rev. Jean-Marie Benjamin, a priest who once worked as an assistant to the Vatican secretary of state and became an activist for lifting Iraqi sanctions.

Thursday's final report of the investigation led by former Federal Reserve chairman Paul Volcker strongly criticizes the U.N. Secretariat and Security Council for failing to monitor the program and allowing the emergence of front companies and international trading concerns prepared to make illegal payments.

In a letter to U.N. Secretary General Kofi Annan, the committee said its task had been to find mismanagement and evidence of corruption, and "unhappily, both were found and have been documented in great detail."

It said responsibility for the program's failure should start with the U.N. Security Council, which is dominated by its five permanent members: Britain, China, France, Russia and the United States.

"The program left too much initiative with Iraq," the letter said. "It was, as one past member of the council put it, a compact with the devil, and the devil had means of manipulating the program to his ends."

The Oil-for-Food program was one of the world's largest humanitarian aid operations, running from 1996-2003.

Under the program, Iraq was allowed to sell limited and then unlimited quantities of oil provided most of the money went to buy humanitarian goods. It was launched to help ordinary Iraqis cope with U.N. sanctions imposed after Saddam's 1990 invasion of Kuwait.

But Saddam, who could choose the buyers of Iraqi oil and the sellers of humanitarian goods, corrupted the program by awarding contracts to — and getting kickbacks from — favored buyers, mostly parties who supported his regime or opposed the sanctions.

Tracing the politicization of oil contracts, the new report said Iraqi leaders in the late 1990s decided to deny American, British and Japanese companies allocations to purchase oil because of their countries' opposition to lifting sanctions on Iraq.

At the same time, it said, Iraq gave preferential treatment to France, Russia and China which were perceived to be more favorable to lifting sanctions and were also permanent members of the Security Council.

Volcker's previous report, released in September, said lax U.N. oversight allowed Saddam's regime to pocket $1.8 billion in kickbacks and surcharges in the awarding of contracts during the program's operation from 1997-2003.

According to the new findings, Iraq's largest source of illicit income from the Oil-for-Food program was the more than $1.5 billion from kickbacks on humanitarian contracts.

Volcker's Independent Inquiry Committee calculated that more than 2,200 companies worldwide paid kickbacks to Iraq in the form of "fees" for transporting goods to the interior of the country or "after-sales-service" fees, or both.

Tables accompanying the report give a detailed look at the value of each company's contracts and the amount of money it paid in kickbacks.

According to the findings, the Banque Nationale de Paris S.A., known as BNP, which held the U.N. Oil-for-Food escrow account, had a dual role and did not disclose fully to the United Nations the firsthand knowledge it acquired about the financial relationships that fostered the payment of illegal surcharges.

The report chronicles Saddam's manipulation of the program and examines in detail 23 companies that paid kickbacks on humanitarian contracts including Iraqi front companies, major food providers, major trading companies, and major industrial and manufacturing companies.

According to the findings, the program was just under three years old when the Iraqi regime began openly demanding illicit payments from its customers. The report said that while U.N. officials and the Security Council were informed, little action was taken.

The report is the fifth by Volcker and wraps up a year-long, $34 million investigation that has faulted Annan, his deputy, Canada's Louise Frechette, and the Security Council for tolerating corruption and doing little to stop Saddam's manipulations.

The smuggling of Iraqi oil outside the program in violation of U.N. sanctions poured much more money — $11 billion — into Saddam's coffers during the same period, according to the report.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,173707,00.html
 
Yes. It sucks. Im on your side brother, but you're giving republicans a pass. There is no real desire or effort of any prominent republican to get out of it. Ron Paul is not enough. The future of our country relies on people getting out of the two party false dichotomy.

Now there's something I can agree with. That's why I'm more and more attracted to the Constitution Party. Incidentally, the Constitution Party goes by the name "American Independent Party" in Nevada, and I think California.
 

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