Do Democrats Still Favor Packing the Court and Ending the Fillibuster?

[Independent thinker]

Schumer now pleads for bi-partisanship having promised to railroad Democrat agenda through

Sen. Majority Leader Chuck Schumer was looking to get rid of the filibuster of Democrats gained a majority in the Senate but now he is calling for bi-partisanship.

www.foxnews.com

Schumer and the Democrats tried to kill the filibuster in 2022 when they had 50 votes – the vice president could have broken the tie – but Senators Joe Manchin and Kyrsten Sinema refused to toe the Democratic party line. They eventually became Independents.

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"To my Republican colleagues, I offer a word of caution in good faith," Schumer said.

"Take care not to misread the will of the people, and do not abandon the need for bipartisanship. After winning an election, the temptation may be to go to the extreme. We’ve seen that happen over the decades, and it has consistently backfired on the party in power."

"So, instead of going to the extremes, I remind my colleagues that this body is most effective when it’s bipartisan. If we want the next four years in the Senate to be as productive as the last four, the only way that will happen is through bipartisan cooperation."

Schumer’s about face wasn’t lost on Byron York, chief political correspondent for the Washington Examiner and a Fox News contributor.

What does Schumer mean by "going to extremes?" Surely, he cannot mean ending the fillibuster and packing the court. How could it only be "extreme" if Republicans do it?

No. He must mean something else. He still supports ending the fillibuster and packing the court, I'm sure.

But what else could he mean?

You'd think that after Harry Reid taught Republicans how to go nuclear that Democrats would give up on these stupid ideas. But, they arrogantly think they will never lose another election again and then these things come back to bite them in the ass.

 

[rightwinger]

You'd think that after Harry Reid taught Republicans how to go nuclear that Democrats would give up on these stupid ideas. But, they arrogantly think they will never lose another election again and then these things come back to bite them in the ass.

Why did Harry Reid go nuclear?
Because Mitch McConnell was filibustering every Obama judicial nomination

 

[struth]

Why did Harry Reid go nuclear?
Because Mitch McConnell was filibustering every Obama judicial nomination

I’m sure Reid has an excuse, with that said, his inability to get things done and go nuclear backfired bigly

 

[NetJedi]

Why did Harry Reid go nuclear?
Because Mitch McConnell was filibustering every Obama judicial nomination

How'd that work out for the Democrats?

 

[rightwinger]

How'd that work out for the Democrats?

It worked out by Mitch McConnell stealing the Supreme Court

 

[task0778]

Has the filibuster been used for good?

I know that's objective, but it was used to fight Civil Rights legislation, which most people agree was not a good use of that tool.

Any legislation it ever stopped that we now realized needed to be stopped?

I suspect that those on the Left will be very happy indeed to have the ability to stop Trump/GOP legislation over the next few years. Do you think maybe some of it should be stopped? I'm guessing that you do and will in the future. And so it is/was when the democrats had a Senate majority; it may well be that in either case there are no doubt some legislation that should not be filibustered but others that should.

But the point is that unless you have a super majority in the Senate (60 votes), then maybe it's for the best to require some support from the minority party. Having unchecked power to do as you please does not strike me as a good idea. As bad as gridlock is, doing nothing is maybe better than doing something really awful.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

To the OP, if in charge, of course the Dems would favor packing the court and ending the filibuster.

Right now not so much.

 

[NetJedi]

It worked out by Mitch McConnell stealing the Supreme Court

How do you figure Mitch McConnell "stole" the Supreme Court?

 

[rightwinger]

But the point is that unless you have a super majority in the Senate (60 votes), then maybe it's for the best to require some support from the minority party. Having unchecked power to do as you please does not strike me as a good idea.

Back in the “Good ole Days” when you could negotiate bipartisan legislation by working out win/win solutions that may have been true.
Today is “my way or the highway” and negotiating with the opposition party is a career killer

 

[rightwinger]

How do you figure Mitch McConnell "stole" the Supreme Court?

Glad you asked…
By refusing to consider an Obama nomination for a year because it was “an election year”
Then fast tracking a Trump nomination weeks before the election

 

[NetJedi]

Glad you asked…
By refusing to consider an Obama nomination for a year because it was “an election year”
Then fast tracking a Trump nomination weeks before the election

Was Senator McConnell acting within his legal authority when he did that?

 

[rightwinger]

Was Senator McConnell acting within his legal authority when he did that?

McConnell changed the game on judicial and Supreme Court nominations.
Traditionally, the Senate gave the President the professional courtesy to nominate judges.
McConnell made it so that no nominations will be passed by an opposition party.

 

[NetJedi]

McConnell changed the game on judicial and Supreme Court nominations.
Traditionally, the Senate gave the President the professional courtesy to nominate judges.
McConnell made it so that no nominations will be passed by an opposition party.

Was Senator McConnell acting within his legal authority when he did that?

 

[Independent thinker]

Why did Harry Reid go nuclear?
Because Mitch McConnell was filibustering every Obama judicial nomination

My point still stands. If you remember, Obama also crammed through recess appointments and now that is coming back to bite you guys in the asses as well.

 

[whitehall]

Democrats are in an identity crisis. Woke makes you broke and whatever they favor doesn't matter since last tuesday.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Was Senator McConnell acting within his legal authority when he did that?

Yes, and did so with a complete lack of integrity.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Time will tell us if Trump has the wherewithall to negotiate the swamp he just walked into.

 

[jknowgood]

Don't count on that. The numbers flip in Dems favor in the next two election cycles.

Lol, you thought Harris was going to win.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

MAGA thought it was going to clean up in 2022.

These last two elections have shown how volatile and shook up the electorate can be.

 

[rightwinger]

My point still stands. If you remember, Obama also crammed through recess appointments and now that is coming back to bite you guys in the asses as well.

Again a result of McConnell road blocking all appointments

It was McConnell who made the filibuster what it is today.
Why it needs to go