Should Tulsi Gabbard Run as Independent in 2020?

[Harry Dresden]

They “found that Trump will easily beat his 304 electoral vote total in 2016. The three different models showed Trump winning either 289,” you need 270, “332 or 351 votes in the Electoral College over his eventual opponent. The projections are based on how consumers feel about their financial situations, stock market gains achieved under Trump and the prospects for unemployment.”

Blah, blah, blah.

Trump's Disapproval Rating is an average of 53% right now according to Real Clear Politics.... and that's factoring in Ratmuffin's bullshit polling.

RealClearPolitics - Election Other - President Trump Job Approval

/——-/ Who do we hate, other than Commies and dictators? Who?

Gays and Mexicans... just like Jesus did.

Trump's Disapproval Rating is an average of 53% right now according to Real Clear Politics.
trumps ratings are better than the congress,they havent seen 30% approval in 10 years....

 

[Bush92]

So you think being a “patriotic American nationalist” is a bad thing?

I think you've made those things mean bad stuff, yeah. It usually means, "Hating people who are different than you are". This is what the GOP has gotten very good at, really.

Here, this is a picture that illustrates it perfectly.

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"Hating people who are different than you are". This is what the GOP has gotten very good at, really.
and democrats are different?....

Democrats hate white heterosexual males.

 

[Bush92]

She should go away and take her defeat in 2020 now that she's outed herself as a loon.

You think she would hurt the Democratic nominee?

She would hurt trump more, because there are a significant number of center right people that are it turns out not stupid and blind on trump and would prefer Tulsi to most of the others.

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She just might...Democrats march in lockstep and are not independent minded. Automatons.

 

[blackhawk]

Gabbard seems to be the only Democrat left in that field who is not so far left they fallen off the map.

 

[Cellblock2429]

https://nypost.com/2019/10/15/democratic-debates-tulsi-gabbard-rips-hosts-cnn-new-york-times/
I think it would make things interesting...especially if she gets a former Republican to be her running mate. Perhaps former Senator Jeff Flake? Who would she take votes from if it was a unity ticket? Trump or Democratic nominee?

/——/ She may have no choice because here comes Hildabeast
Ben Shapiro: Now's the time for Hillary Clinton to jump in and steal the nomination

Ben Shapiro: Now's the time for Hillary Clinton to jump in and steal the nomination

 

[JoeB131]

/——/ Oh bullshyt. More doom and gloom what might happen. So when are democRATs cutting SS to give the rich tax cuts?

They are doing it now.

Trump Outlines a Significant Social Security Cut in His 2020 Budget | The Motley Fool

n particular, political opponents of the president focused on a handful of proposed cuts to social programs, which go against Trump's campaign promises in 2016 not to touch so-called entitlement programs like Medicare and Social Security.

Contained within the president's budget were calls for about $1.5 trillion in cuts to Medicaid over the next 10 years, which would be achieved by moving payouts to block grants; an $845 billion reduction to Medicare spending over the next decade that targets a decrease in wasteful spending via lower prescription drug costs; and -- surprise -- a roughly $26 billion decrease in Social Security spending over the next 10 years.

Now, we don't talk enough about THIS kind of stuff, because Trump is too busy talking about buying Greenland and nuking hurricanes and the other crazy shit to distract us.

 

[JoeB131]

Trump's Disapproval Rating is an average of 53% right now according to Real Clear Politics.
trumps ratings are better than the congress,they havent seen 30% approval in 10 years....

He won't be running against Congress.

Oh, Congress' approval rating is up now that they are talking about seriously impeaching the **********.

 

[Cellblock2429]

/——/ Oh bullshyt. More doom and gloom what might happen. So when are democRATs cutting SS to give the rich tax cuts?

They are doing it now.

Trump Outlines a Significant Social Security Cut in His 2020 Budget | The Motley Fool

n particular, political opponents of the president focused on a handful of proposed cuts to social programs, which go against Trump's campaign promises in 2016 not to touch so-called entitlement programs like Medicare and Social Security.

Contained within the president's budget were calls for about $1.5 trillion in cuts to Medicaid over the next 10 years, which would be achieved by moving payouts to block grants; an $845 billion reduction to Medicare spending over the next decade that targets a decrease in wasteful spending via lower prescription drug costs; and -- surprise -- a roughly $26 billion decrease in Social Security spending over the next 10 years.

Now, we don't talk enough about THIS kind of stuff, because Trump is too busy talking about buying Greenland and nuking hurricanes and the other crazy shit to distract us.

/——/ DemocRATs keep waste and fraud good. Orange man cuts waste and fraud bad.

 

[SweetTea]

I refuse to believe that I live in a country that has enough ignorant people to vote for a Socialist for President. If we elect one of those idiots, we will all suffer collectively in the long run. Countries don't typically make a move towards Socialism with things are going well, which is EXACTLY whay the Democrats are hoping for failure. They have even resorted to just flat out lying about the state of the economy in hopes that the lemmings will believe it. I guess if you tell a gullible person something often enough, they will believe virtually anything. Case in point, Trump's tax cuts were for the rich they say, nevermind that virtually everyone got a tax cut. Lemmings who paid less in taxes still believe that tall tell because they have been told the lie so often.

The average tax cut was $19.00 a week. Just can't get worked up about that.

We don't have to "wait" for failure... we've seen this movie twice in my lifetime.

The GOP comes in and cuts regulations and taxes on rich people

The rich then go about ******* it up, because they are too ******* greedy.

The economy crashes, and we get a Democrat in to fix it.

Then the GOP comes back when times are good, and tell the dumb-ass white Trash in Jesus-land that the government is oppressing them by looking out for minorities, women and gays...

Wash. Rinse. Repeat.

Tax cuts stimulate the economy period. End of story. It is a fact, not matter how much you commies want to claim they don't.

Both parties need to reign in spending, that is for sure, but it doesn't have anything to do with the tax cuts. Lemmings have bought into the idea that tax revenue goes down when taxes are cut. They don't and they didn't this time. Tax revenues have increased because the economy picked up, salaries have increasd and people are buying more stuff. This is the way it is supposed to work, not articially created a short term tax boon by raising taxes so the goverment can wastere 3/4 of it and distribute the remaiing quarter to partisan programs that at least 1/2 the country doesn't agree with.

Democrats don't fix anything.

LIke I have told you before, I live in "Jesus-land", aka. a state with morals, and I can assure you that most of us that vote Republican are the farthest thing from "trailer-trash" that you can imagine. In fact, Democrats living in blue states are much more likely to have a significantly lower standard of living than us 'dumb ass" Republicans living in red states. What you seem to fail to understand about the democgraphics of Southern red states, is that we have a large percentage of minorities, many of which are living in poor areas. They vote overwhemingly for Democrats. Add some white, blue dog Democrats into that number along with a large number of poor whites and there is your Democratic base in these states. The vast majority of the educated, middle to upper class people in my state are solidly Republican. In other words, the vast majority of the people you are calling "dumb-asses" are the professionals and business owners from red states, or at least mine.

 

[SweetTea]

Trump's Disapproval Rating is an average of 53% right now according to Real Clear Politics.
trumps ratings are better than the congress,they havent seen 30% approval in 10 years....

He won't be running against Congress.

Oh, Congress' approval rating is up now that they are talking about seriously impeaching the **********.

Unless something else comes out, they won't impeach him because the Democatic house members with more than 1/2 brain, which granted is not many, know the evidence is not there and they would be comitting political suicide, particularly those that live in states that are not solidly blue. Schiff is from CA. Nothing he could do short of saying we need to secure our border and changing parties would stop those morons from voting for him.

 

[JoeB131]

Tax cuts stimulate the economy period. End of story. It is a fact, not matter how much you commies want to claim they don't.

Nope, they really don't. Supply side is a lie.

What stimulates the economy is government spending.

The 1980's recession ended because Ronnie Reagan threw a bunch of money into infrastructure spending and military spending, not because he gave tax breaks to Billionaires.

the 2001 Recession ended because Bush spend a bunch of money on the "War on an Emotional State".

Meanwhile, taxes were raised after the 1990 and 2008 recessions, and surprise, surprise the economy got better.

Unless something else comes out, they won't impeach him because the Democatic house members with more than 1/2 brain, which granted is not many, know the evidence is not there and they would be comitting political suicide, particularly those that live in states that are not solidly blue. Schiff is from CA. Nothing he could do short of saying we need to secure our border and changing parties would stop those morons from voting for him.

Okay, you keep telling yourself that... but as of right now, 52% of voters support impeachment, and that number will go up as Trump becomes more and more unhinged...

 

[JoeB131]

Both parties need to reign in spending, that is for sure, but it doesn't have anything to do with the tax cuts. Lemmings have bought into the idea that tax revenue goes down when taxes are cut. They don't and they didn't this time. Tax revenues have increased because the economy picked up, salaries have increasd and people are buying more stuff. This is the way it is supposed to work, not articially created a short term tax boon by raising taxes so the goverment can wastere 3/4 of it and distribute the remaiing quarter to partisan programs that at least 1/2 the country doesn't agree with.

Again, you guys keep saying that, and then when we ask you what you want to cut along with actual numbers, you come up with ... nothing.

Because most of what the government spends is completely necessary.

I mean, you can huff and puff about cutting social security or medicare, but those programs (the two biggest ticket items in Federal Spending) are massively popular...

 

[Cellblock2429]

I refuse to believe that I live in a country that has enough ignorant people to vote for a Socialist for President. If we elect one of those idiots, we will all suffer collectively in the long run. Countries don't typically make a move towards Socialism with things are going well, which is EXACTLY whay the Democrats are hoping for failure. They have even resorted to just flat out lying about the state of the economy in hopes that the lemmings will believe it. I guess if you tell a gullible person something often enough, they will believe virtually anything. Case in point, Trump's tax cuts were for the rich they say, nevermind that virtually everyone got a tax cut. Lemmings who paid less in taxes still believe that tall tell because they have been told the lie so often.

The average tax cut was $19.00 a week. Just can't get worked up about that.

We don't have to "wait" for failure... we've seen this movie twice in my lifetime.

The GOP comes in and cuts regulations and taxes on rich people

The rich then go about ******* it up, because they are too ******* greedy.

The economy crashes, and we get a Democrat in to fix it.

Then the GOP comes back when times are good, and tell the dumb-ass white Trash in Jesus-land that the government is oppressing them by looking out for minorities, women and gays...

Wash. Rinse. Repeat.

Tax cuts stimulate the economy period. End of story. It is a fact, not matter how much you commies want to claim they don't.

Both parties need to reign in spending, that is for sure, but it doesn't have anything to do with the tax cuts. Lemmings have bought into the idea that tax revenue goes down when taxes are cut. They don't and they didn't this time. Tax revenues have increased because the economy picked up, salaries have increasd and people are buying more stuff. This is the way it is supposed to work, not articially created a short term tax boon by raising taxes so the goverment can wastere 3/4 of it and distribute the remaiing quarter to partisan programs that at least 1/2 the country doesn't agree with.

Democrats don't fix anything.

LIke I have told you before, I live in "Jesus-land", aka. a state with morals, and I can assure you that most of us that vote Republican are the farthest thing from "trailer-trash" that you can imagine. In fact, Democrats living in blue states are much more likely to have a significantly lower standard of living than us 'dumb ass" Republicans living in red states. What you seem to fail to understand about the democgraphics of Southern red states, is that we have a large percentage of minorities, many of which are living in poor areas. They vote overwhemingly for Democrats. Add some white, blue dog Democrats into that number along with a large number of poor whites and there is your Democratic base in these states. The vast majority of the educated, middle to upper class people in my state are solidly Republican. In other words, the vast majority of the people you are calling "dumb-asses" are the professionals and business owners from red states, or at least mine.

/——-/ Well said. I was born and raised in a Red State and live in a Blue State. Everything you posted is 100% accurate.

 

[Cellblock2429]

Trump's Disapproval Rating is an average of 53% right now according to Real Clear Politics.
trumps ratings are better than the congress,they havent seen 30% approval in 10 years....

He won't be running against Congress.

Oh, Congress' approval rating is up now that they are talking about seriously impeaching the **********.

/—-/ Yeah, Congressional approval is at a staggering 22% while Trump’s approval is a merger 50%.

 

[SweetTea]

Because most of what the government spends is completely necessary.

Said no sane person ever. I now fully understand why you are a Democrat.

 

[Cellblock2429]

Both parties need to reign in spending, that is for sure, but it doesn't have anything to do with the tax cuts. Lemmings have bought into the idea that tax revenue goes down when taxes are cut. They don't and they didn't this time. Tax revenues have increased because the economy picked up, salaries have increasd and people are buying more stuff. This is the way it is supposed to work, not articially created a short term tax boon by raising taxes so the goverment can wastere 3/4 of it and distribute the remaiing quarter to partisan programs that at least 1/2 the country doesn't agree with.

Again, you guys keep saying that, and then when we ask you what you want to cut along with actual numbers, you come up with ... nothing.

Because most of what the government spends is completely necessary.

I mean, you can huff and puff about cutting social security or medicare, but those programs (the two biggest ticket items in Federal Spending) are massively popular...

/——/ Get a clue, Joe. You’re embarrassing yourself. Government Waste: 10 Most Ridiculous Federal Expenses | [site:name] | National Review
10. $283,500 on Department of Defense bird-watching

In the sage scrub of the California coast lives a small grey bird known as the California gnatcatcher. Its biggest enemy? Cowbirds, which like to hijack the gnatcatcher’s nest and lay eggs. The poor gnatcatchers never quite realize they’re raising someone else’s kin.

 

[Harry Dresden]

Trump's Disapproval Rating is an average of 53% right now according to Real Clear Politics.
trumps ratings are better than the congress,they havent seen 30% approval in 10 years....

He won't be running against Congress.

Oh, Congress' approval rating is up now that they are talking about seriously impeaching the **********.

how much is it up joe?...have they hit 30% yet?....you do realize that the members of congress are some of the worst people to ever to hold those jobs right?...

 

[IM2]

She should go away and take her defeat in 2020 now that she's outed herself as a loon.

Served two tours of duty in Iraq. Recognizes that the media has a liberal establishment bias.

And that's all that is needed to be a viable presidential candidate according to the lunatic fringe.

She's not taking democratic votes now. So how is she going to hurt democrats by running as an independent? Tulsi is a joke. She is nice to look at, but there are millions of women in America who are nice to look at and they ain't running for president.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

She should go away and take her defeat in 2020 now that she's outed herself as a loon.

Served two tours of duty in Iraq. Recognizes that the media has a liberal establishment bias.

And that's all that is needed to be a viable presidential candidate according to the lunatic fringe.

She's not taking democratic votes now. So how is she going to hurt democrats by running as an independent? Tulsi is a joke. She is nice to look at, but there are millions of women in America who are nice to look at and they ain't running for president.

Yes, once again we see how you shitheads can't tolerate anyone who disagrees with you.

 

[MAGAman]

https://nypost.com/2019/10/15/democratic-debates-tulsi-gabbard-rips-hosts-cnn-new-york-times/
I think it would make things interesting...especially if she gets a former Republican to be her running mate. Perhaps former Senator Jeff Flake? Who would she take votes from if it was a unity ticket? Trump or Democratic nominee?

Nobody that is considering a real Republican would vote for a Socialist/RINO ticket.