Should Trump do ANY press conferences, or just let his press secretary handle the "Free Press"? (Poll)

[BluesLegend]

You don't ban an organization that hold valid press credentials because you don't like what they report. You can assign them seats in the back and not call on them. Many many administrations have made that call. That tactic does more to keep them more honest than anything else. To get to ask a question on camera is a very prestigious opportunity for a journalist.

That's my point, their press credentials are illegitimate. They are lying scum loyal to Democrats and there's no lie they won't tell the American people. Sorry but that filth should be booted out of OUR White House.

Look at this another way, other professions are heavily regulated by the government requiring those professions to meet high standards of professional integrity and independence. Otherwise they lose their state and federal licenses, at a minimum. Why shouldn't the press corps be held to the same standard?

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

Still haven't taken that remedial reading comprehension course I see. You really should get that done. Then you might not get what I post so wrong.

Focus. Gateway Pundit, RSBN and OAN are right wing biased sources. You incorrectly say they aren't propaganda. You're wrong, of course, thus you apparently support propaganda when you think it's from an unbiased source. Which makes no logical sense whatsoever, as bias is in the very definition of propaganda.

 

[westwall]

Putin is not a member of the press.

Neither is the Press!

 

[Foxfyre]

That's my point, their press credentials are illegitimate. They are lying scum loyal to Democrats and there's no lie they won't tell the American people. Sorry but that filth should be booted out of OUR White House.

Look at this another way, other professions are heavily regulated by the government requiring those professions to meet high standards of professional integrity and independence. Otherwise they lose their state and federal licenses, at a minimum. Why shouldn't the press corps be held to the same standard?

If they significantly distort or lie about what is given them in the White House Press Briefing, yes they can have their credentials to be there yanked. But it has to be a clear deviation from the facts and not just their opinions expressed about what they hear in the press briefing.

 

[BluesLegend]

If they significantly distort or lie about what is given them in the White House Press Briefing, yes they can have their credentials to be there yanked. But it has to be a clear deviation from the facts and not just their opinions expressed about what they hear in the press briefing.

That's progress. In time you will 100% agree with me, bookmark this post.

 

[BluesLegend]

Neither is the Press!

^^^ and we have the winner!

 

[Foxfyre]

Focus. Gateway Pundit, RSBN and OAN are right wing biased sources. You incorrectly say they aren't propaganda. You're wrong, of course, thus you apparently support propaganda when you think it's from an unbiased source. Which makes no logical sense whatsoever, as bias is in the very definition of propaganda.

When you can show me what propaganda any of those sources are pushing get back to me. Expressing opinions you don't like or not popular with leftists/Democrats is not propaganda.

Pushing Russia Russia Russia as fact with no basis in fact is propaganda.

Pushing collusion by a sitting President as fact with no basis in fact is propaganda.

Pushing presumed sex offenses as fact with no basis in fact is propaganda.

Accusing someone of lying as fact with no basis in fact is propaganda.

Accusing someone of committing insurrection as fact with no basis in fact is propaganda.

I could go on and on and on but there's a limit to my patience.

 

[Foxfyre]

Neither is the Press!

Well if they are holding valid press credentials, they are members of the press. They may not be honest. They may not be competent. They may not be credible. But they are members of the press.

 

[Foxfyre]

That's progress. In time you will 100% agree with me, bookmark this post.

LOL that's okay. You can remind me if I have to eat some words here.

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

When you can show me what propaganda any of those sources are pushing get back to me. Expressing opinions you don't like or not popular with leftists/Democrats is not propaganda.

Pushing Russia Russia Russia as fact with no basis in fact is propaganda.

Pushing collusion by a sitting President as fact with no basis in fact is propaganda.

Pushing presumed sex offenses as fact with no basis in fact is propaganda.

Accusing someone of lying as fact with no basis in fact is propaganda.

Accusing someone of committing insurrection as fact with no basis in fact is propaganda.

I could go on and on and on but there's a limit to my patience.

So you give as pass on propaganda as long as you agree. Like I said.

 

[westwall]

Well if they are holding valid press credentials, they are members of the press. They may not be honest. They may not be competent. They may not be credible. But they are members of the press.

If they are doing nothing more than propaganda they are no longer the Press. They are political operatives and should be treated as such.

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

If they are doing nothing more than propaganda they are no longer the Press. They are political operatives and should be treated as such.

But it's not propaganda when you agree.

 

[westwall]

But it's not propaganda when you agree.

Propaganda is propaganda. Recognizable by all.

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

Propaganda is propaganda. Recognizable by all.

The brainwashed overstate their recognition.

 

[westwall]

The brainwashed overstate their recognition.

Indeed you do.

 

[Foxfyre]

If they are doing nothing more than propaganda they are no longer the Press. They are political operatives and should be treated as such.

It is not what they do that makes them the press under the law. It is the credentials they hold. For sure there is a fine line that distinguishing legitimate press from the propaganda machines, but as long as CNN, MSNBC, the alphabet networks etc. are doing some legitimate news, and they all do, they are the press. Where you begin to cross the line into non press are in things like The Babylon Bee that don't pretend to be doing actual news.

 

[Foxfyre]

So you give as pass on propaganda as long as you agree. Like I said.

No dear. That is not what I said at all. And I won't participate in the food fight you're trying to start here. When you want to have an actual conversation we can try again. Until then have a lovely evening.

 

[westwall]

It is not what they do that makes them the press under the law. It is the credentials they hold. For sure there is a fine line that distinguishing legitimate press from the propaganda machines, but as long as CNN, MSNBC, the alphabet networks etc. are doing some legitimate news, and they all do, they are the press. Where you begin to cross the line into non press are in things like The Babylon Bee that don't pretend to be doing actual news.

I disagree. The MSM has been the propaganda arm of the DNC for over a decade now. They no longer report news. They simply broadcast what their political masters want them to. I say pull their licenses.

 

[Foxfyre]

I disagree. The MSM has been the propaganda arm of the DNC for over a decade now. They no longer report news. They simply broadcast what their political masters want them to. I say pull their licenses.

Well we can agree to disagree on that and still enjoy a beer together. (If I drank beer anymore LOL.) Seriously I agree that they are terrible propaganda arms of the DNC and deep state. I disagree that they do no news at all. I actually use them as sources now and then when they actually do put out a bonafide news story. And it would be horrible press and set a terrible precedent if the Trump administration tried to take away their credentials as media. I couldn't condone that myself.

So our best bet is to keep praising the honorable media that is left when we can and exposing the blatant dishonesty of the propaganda machines until they have no credibility left with anybody. They will then either clean up their acts or go out of business altogether.

 

[my2¢]

It doesn't matter to me. I rarely listen to what Presidents have to say as I figure that inauguration speeches and state of the union addresses are enough to get a sense of where the President's priorities are set for over the course of the year.

The last one I recall watching was GW Bush's facing the media over his ultimatum to Saddam Hussein.