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I can easily say that's a lie given what you just argued for. It isn't 'gotcha' when I confront you with your own stated positions.
Don't want the conversation to degenerate to this point? Be more consistent and tell the truth.
Might I hazard a question here?
Do you even know what 'gotcha' means in this context? What it certainly doesn't mean is 'cover my ass when I'm wrong.'
As for me, my vote is no. One can simply peruse the gun crime statistics after setting the handgun age limit to 21 and see that it had no appreciable impact on the murder rate with said implement.
I doubt raising the limit to 21 on large capacity machine weapons would affect that of murders committed with long guns.
But you ARE wrong the way you attempt to argue.
Due Process only works on Citizens, not perpetual Criminals.
That's an improvement over others I let Gracie show the door.
Until the next one slips through the cracks with an illegal weapon and mows down 19 more kids.If you stop even one of these fruitcakes it's worth it.
Oh? I'm fairly certain you made this comment earlier.
Pardon? Gracie? What does she have to do with this, perchance?
True. But you are looking at a multiheaded hydra situation here. Lop off one head and two more spring up.But the Mass School Shootings it will since almost everyone have been under 21.
Oh, to be young again.
At what point do you just blow that murderous MF away and be done with it.
Until the next one slips through the cracks with an illegal weapon and mows down 19 more kids.
Do you wait until he kills his 14th or do you wait until he kills a group of 14 school children. At some point, due process becomes no longer relevant.
When the United States devolves into total anarchy, perhaps.
I think I heard a Sheriffs say that if we stop 19 out of 20 it's worth it. But we will never be able to stop all of them. We stopped a 17 year old headed for a middle school with his daddy's AR and 4 30 round mags under a rain slicker. They bagged him inside the 1000 foot safety parameter. He found himself surrounded by 5 very nervous cops with weapons drawn screaming at him. Some old lady thought the kid looked funny wearing a rain slicker on a warm sunny day and called it in.
And are you aware of what kind of precedent that sets? If we ignore due process rights for one habitual criminal, then we must for the other. We would have to given what the 14th Amendment says.
I am totally not for that. Let a jury decide if the killer is worthy of the death penalty.
I will admit I am slight different than most in background. And probably skill level. This is why I got rid of all my firearms. I don't even wish to think about shooting another person. My scrap book is too big already.
That would be hilarious if it weren't so sad.
Stopping 19 of 20 isn't bad, but magnify that by how many times over months or years we fail on the 20th time.
If he is in the process the cops need to shoot to kill. If he survives then you get him. If not I get him.
