Zone1 Should the seawater to freshwater industry grow?

[GavanPeacefan]

So how do you filter seawater into freshwater in the sanddunes of The Sahara Desert itself? or any other desert on Earth?You did a hole in the ground to hold a big plastic container, you use my 'wateridea original'[1] to put a large translucent plastic container in it.
And you keep the top of those watercontainers, connected by plastic tubing and plastic water connectors, above the dunes at all times, perhaps even using robots for that job one day.

[1] Freshwater from seawater using solarpower and off-the-shelf existing components
[1a] Desalination - Wikipedia
[1b] Google Search

 

[lg325]

There is no choice it will have to grow or we will face a water shortage one day on a global scale in the future maybe. Who really knows though.

 

[EMH]

So how do you filter seawater into freshwater in the sanddunes of The Sahara Desert itself? or any other desert on Earth?You did a hole in the ground to hold a big plastic container, you use my 'wateridea original'[1] to put a large translucent plastic container in it.
And you keep the top of those watercontainers, connected by plastic tubing and plastic water connectors, above the dunes at all times, perhaps even using robots for that job one day.

[1] Freshwater from seawater using solarpower and off-the-shelf existing components
[1a] Desalination - Wikipedia
[1b] Google Search

The name is desalination.

Google Search

We should have many more desalination plants than we do, but CO2 FRAUD spending "crowds that out" and misdiagnoses. We had that argument in SoCal 25 years ago. Either build more desalination plants or face the truth, that the growing population with no increase in fresh water supply would result in MASSIVE FIRES... DEMOCRATS BLOCKED THE DESAL. DEMOCRATS PREFER TO STEAL AND MISDIAGNOSE AND BLAME FIRES on "WARMING" that does not exist...


For small islands like Epstein Island, the solar powered desal is a great solution. But it is expensive. The ion exchange membranes used to filter salt out in the desal plants, they are expensive. But LESS EXPENSIVE THAN MASSIVE $15 billion wildfires...

 

[DGS49]

Changing sea water to drinkable "fresh" water is an energy-intensive process. It can either be distilled (boiled to make steam, then condensing the steam back to fresh water), or run through reverse-osmosis membranes at very high pressures. I don't think there are any other economically viable processes to do it.

For the record, filtration is given a lot of attention, but there are FOUR different kinds of water pollution: suspended solids ( which filtration can remove), dissolved solids like salt, which filtration cannot remove, biologicals, which can go through filters, and heat, which is often overlooked, but can kill plants and other wildlife. So you can filter the hell out of water and still leave poison behind.

Reverse osmosis (usually described as "R.O.") is the most popular way to make seawater drinkable.

Wanna hear an anecdote? I once worked on a project to build an RO plant in Tampa Bay. The local tree-huggers were outraged and tried everything they could do to prevent it from being built. The "reject water" from an RO plant is slightly more saline than the intake water, and the tree huggers said that the reject water would kill all the fish.

Fast forward a couple years, and the fish cluster around the outlets for the reject water. They love it.

Who knew?

 

[1srelluc]

If CA is involved it will just become another grifty boondoggle.

 

[GavanPeacefan]

Changing sea water to drinkable "fresh" water is an energy-intensive process. It can either be distilled (boiled to make steam, then condensing the steam back to fresh water), or run through reverse-osmosis membranes at very high pressures. I don't think there are any other economically viable processes to do it.

For the record, filtration is given a lot of attention, but there are FOUR different kinds of water pollution: suspended solids ( which filtration can remove), dissolved solids like salt, which filtration cannot remove, biologicals, which can go through filters, and heat, which is often overlooked, but can kill plants and other wildlife. So you can filter the hell out of water and still leave poison behind.

Reverse osmosis (usually described as "R.O.") is the most popular way to make seawater drinkable.

Wanna hear an anecdote? I once worked on a project to build an RO plant in Tampa Bay. The local tree-huggers were outraged and tried everything they could do to prevent it from being built. The "reject water" from an RO plant is slightly more saline than the intake water, and the tree huggers said that the reject water would kill all the fish.

Fast forward a couple years, and the fish cluster around the outlets for the reject water. They love it.

Who knew?

Sounds like the youth are being herded by the richest to suit the interests of the richest.
Or is that paranoid thinking?.......

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Yes, it should be government subsidized.

 

[DGS49]

Yes, it should be government subsidized.

Of course. It would be a public utility. An addition to a municipal water system.

 

[Dekster]

Even if they build a giant desal plant, getting the water 4700 miles across the ocean to my front door might take longer than I will be alive. That is a lot of transatlantic pipe to lay

 

[ThunderKiss1965]

Yes, it should be government subsidized.

Anytime the government gets involved and subsidizes anything the cost goes up. The better option is to give tax breaks to companies that invest in the technology with revues on their progress. If the companies involved doesn't make documented advances in an agreed up time line they lose those tax breaks. If these companies make promises under false pretenses they should be fined into oblivion.

Big government is a hindrance to progress.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Anytime the government gets involved and subsidizes anything the cost goes up. The better option is to give tax breaks to companies that invest in the technology with revues on their progress. If the companies involved doesn't make documented advances in an agreed up time line they lose those tax breaks. If these companies make promises under false pretenses they should be fined into oblivion.

Big government is a hindrance to progress.

What a stupid conclusion.

The "Manhattan Project" ended the war.

Government involvement got trains throughout the West in far quicker time than by sole private enterprise.

We don't have time to waste, ThunderKiss1965, on your silliness.

 

[ThunderKiss1965]

What a stupid conclusion.

The "Manhattan Project" ended the war.

Government involvement got trains throughout the West in far quicker time than by sole private enterprise.

We don't have time to waste, ThunderKiss1965, on your silliness.

All of that was before Corporations had the spare cash to invest heavily in technologies. Look at companies like SpaceX they are way cheaper and better than anything the bureaucracies of Government and NASA could ever do. Look at failures like Solandra and Bidens EV bus disaster.

Big Goverment is a hindrance private corporations are the future.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

All of that was before Corporations had the spare cash to invest heavily in technologies. Look at companies like SpaceX they are way cheaper and better than anything the bureaucracies of Government and NASA could ever do. Look at failures like Solandra and Bidens EV bus disaster.

Big Goverment is a hindrance private corporations are the future.

Nonsense opinions.

Libertarianism and capitalism are the path of doom for mankind.

 

[Unkotare]

You know what happens when you take too much salt out of the oceans?

 

[ThunderKiss1965]

Nonsense opinions.

Libertarianism and capitalism are the path of doom for mankind.

Riiight and for socialism to work we just need to murder another 100 million people or so.
The very device you are using and the network used to transmit your ignorance is available and affordable because of capitalism.

 

[HikerGuy83]

What a stupid conclusion.

The "Manhattan Project" ended the war.

Government involvement got trains throughout the West in far quicker time than by sole private enterprise.

We don't have time to waste, ThunderKiss1965, on your silliness.

And your post is moronic.

The MP is certainly under the perview of the FG. Who else has the incentive to build a bomb? What a doofus example.

And there is nothing to prove your comment about the government and trains.

We don't have time John Edgar Slow Horses to point out how you don't know what you are talking about....for the thousandth time.

 

[HikerGuy83]

Riiight and for socialism to work we just need to murder another 100 million people or so.
The very device you are using and the network used to transmit your ignorance is available and affordable because of capitalism.

Government screws everything it touches outside of it's enumerated powers.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Riiight and for socialism to work we just need to murder another 100 million people or so.
The very device you are using and the network used to transmit your ignorance is available and affordable because of capitalism.

We have been in a democratic social market developing economy for more than a century.

It is not capitalism. Libertarianism is simply a myth.

 

[ThunderKiss1965]

We have been in a democratic social market developing economy for more than a century.

It is not capitalism. Libertarianism is simply a myth.

You don't have a ******* clue what socialism is. Government control of the means of production.

 

[martybegan]

Changing sea water to drinkable "fresh" water is an energy-intensive process. It can either be distilled (boiled to make steam, then condensing the steam back to fresh water), or run through reverse-osmosis membranes at very high pressures. I don't think there are any other economically viable processes to do it.

For the record, filtration is given a lot of attention, but there are FOUR different kinds of water pollution: suspended solids ( which filtration can remove), dissolved solids like salt, which filtration cannot remove, biologicals, which can go through filters, and heat, which is often overlooked, but can kill plants and other wildlife. So you can filter the hell out of water and still leave poison behind.

Reverse osmosis (usually described as "R.O.") is the most popular way to make seawater drinkable.

Wanna hear an anecdote? I once worked on a project to build an RO plant in Tampa Bay. The local tree-huggers were outraged and tried everything they could do to prevent it from being built. The "reject water" from an RO plant is slightly more saline than the intake water, and the tree huggers said that the reject water would kill all the fish.

Fast forward a couple years, and the fish cluster around the outlets for the reject water. They love it.

Who knew?

You also need a way to return the resulting heavy brine back to the ocean in such a way that you don't impact your influent stream or create "salt" patches in your return area.

Or figure out a way to market "sea salt"