Should The Rich Be Required To Pay Higher Taxes In the US?

[Toddsterpatriot]

"That's not a tax break for the Waltons."



True, Walton's ONLY have a greater than 50% stake in Walmart

Remember, Walmart Procurement, Logistics, and Transportation are privately held companies wholly owned by the Walmart seven, so they receive more than the 'greater than 50% stake.'

Remember, Walmart Procurement, Logistics, and Transportation are privately held companies wholly owned by the Walmart seven, so they receive more than the 'greater than 50% stake.'

Prove it.

 

[OnePercenter]

Wrong

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Uh stupid, towers are for air traffic control...

You stated:

Airport construction and security do not fall under the FAA, retard.

You've been proven wrong.

 

[SAYIT]

With the Status quo.................NOPE..........We are trying to take out the trash...........how about your side...

Oops you favor Liars and criminals..............Like Hillary, and the pen and phone guy.

No. It's because the rich/wealthy like me don't want it, and we own your ass.

The only way to end income inequality and boost the economy is to regulate it.

I'm not certain who you think you are fooling but possession of some video game console does not mean you are wealthy.

 

[OnePercenter]

When 95% of new wealth goes to the richest 1% and the nonrich and the country are falling apart, it's time for more taxes on the richest and their tax free corps.

No. It's time for this;


-Base Federal tax for corporations at 30% of revenue.

-Raise minimum wage to $23.50/hr. Based on where minimum wage should be using 1970-2015 rise in food, shelter, and transportation.

-Eliminate all business subsidies (deductions/write-offs/write-downs) except for employee expenses which are deducted dollar-for-dollar on all city, state, and Federal taxes and fees with the Feds refunding city, State, and fees.

-Companies with 500 employees or less, employee expenses above the deduction are subsidized at 100% with funds usually give back to the States.

-Adjust Social Security and private/public retirement and pension payments using 1970-2015 price structure.

-Remove the FICA limit.

-Back down ALL costs, prices, fees, to January 1, 2009 levels and hold them for 10 years which will eliminate inflation.

-Recall ALL off-shore investments tax free, and disallow any further off-shore investments.

-Make inversion illegal.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

You should really just stop, Im almost embarrassed for you because of the ass whipping you are taking here.

Sure Bubba, It's me conflating RETIREMENT ACCOUNTS FOR A SOCIAL INSURANCE SYSTEM??? lol

You don't like social security because it was designed as something that had to be paid into in order to get something back out.
you want the free money where you put no effort into earning it, but you still get a check from someone elses bank account.
what a welfare queen you must be.

Stop projecting dummy. After 35 years of Reaganomics, putting EVERYTHING on the credit card for the baby boomer generation, NEVER wanting to pay for ANYTHING, you want to call ME a welfare queen? lol

putting EVERYTHING on the credit card for the baby boomer generation, NEVER wanting to pay for ANYTHING

That darn Reagan was a slacker! $1.6 trillion added to the debt and all he did was defeat the Evil Empire.
Obama has added $7.5 trillion, so far, and all he did was let ISIS run wild across the Middle East, released Iran from international sanctions and let Russia get away with invading the Ukraine.

YEP, Ronnie TRIPLED US debt where Obama walked into what GOP/Dubya set him up with.

HE DEFEATED THE EMPIRE? WHOSE PUTIN? What was 45 years of US policy on containment? lol

Saint Ronnie, without the collective amnesia of right wingers, what Ronnie's REAL policies did, what would you Klowns have?

YEP, Ronnie TRIPLED US debt

Yup, $1.6 trillion increase, the bastard!

Obama walked into what GOP/Dubya set him up with.

Poor baby, I guess his $7.5 trillion increase isn't so bad then, besides, he's half-black.

HE DEFEATED THE EMPIRE?

Yup, tens of millions freed from Soviet bondage.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

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If you put 12.4% of your lifetime earnings in the stock market and 12.4% of your lifetime earnings into Social Security and die tomorrow, at the age of 61 years, 363 days, which of your two retirement plans will give your family more money, the stock market or Social Security?

Unless you had all of your eggs in the market when Republicans/corporate America/BushCo crashed the economy in 2007/2008.

Then you'd still have much, much more than from Social Security.

 

[OnePercenter]

Wrong. Coal is being attacked by the Obama administration and his minions. They already shut down many plants and forced the remaining open ones to invest millions of dollars in greener technology. It had nothing to do with natural gas because the US is the Saudi Arabia of coal.

Coal mines were shut down due to safety violations.

Natural gas prices dipped to historically low levels beating coal prices.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Higher benefits for future retirees isn't welfare, silly.

Right, having taxpayers pay for SS benefits that has ALWAYS been paid by program recipients is however!

Let's see, we could continue to pay crappy benefits with my 12.4% or we could invest my 12.4% in a plan with a much higher return. And once we've fully transitioned, the government could keep their paws off 12.4% of everyone's lifetime earnings.

I can see the attraction, for big government loving morons, to the current crappy plan.

I get it Bubba, you want to live in right wing fantasy world, hint look to Chile's supposed "miracle" to see how that libertarian BS REALLY works!

look to Chile's supposed "miracle"

How does it compare to Venezuela's march to a glorious socialist future?

So NO, you will not look to Friedman's "free market" miracle, so instead you'll use a "socialist" failure put through whose lens bubs? Who exactly was saying it was a paradise again Bubs?

So NO, you will not look to Friedman's "free market" miracle

Feel free to provide your proof of Chile's poor performance.
How's that Venezuelan toilet paper situation?

 

[SAYIT]

True, they ONLY benefited over half the Corp tax breaks right Bubs, beside hitting the lucky sperm lottery, why should they benefit from the fathers hard work, worth more than 80% of US COMBINED? ?????

True, they ONLY benefited over half the Corp tax breaks right Bubs,

You mean they paid taxes, just like every other corporation?
That's awful!
Feel free to cut out all the welfare payments that WalMart takes advantage of.

why should they benefit from the fathers hard work

Why not. You know, private ownership.

Yep, Walton's/Walmart use the best tax breaks they can buy in Congress!

Oh so our Founders were wrong to worry about INHERITED aristocracy over merit? Thanks for letting me know!

If it bothers you to have a complex tax code, the solution is quite simple: A low fair flat rate tax that applied to everyone.

Easy Peasy Lemon Squeezy!

Keep dreaming. A REGRESSIVE tax isn't needed, but weird how the GOP stops ANYTHING that might require their overlords to pay more equitable with their wealth!

What I find perplexing is how the liberals seem to think they have a right to someone elses earned income.

Increasingly I find some small difference between libs, who focus on social policy, and leftists, who focus on OPM (Other People's Money). That said, it is crystal clear that leftists will abide no infringement on their "right" to redistribute your wealth to themselves and those they would endow.
The income/wealth "inequality" scam so popular with loony leftists is a thin veneer for "take from the rich (anyone with more than them) and give it to me."

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

True, they ONLY benefited over half the Corp tax breaks right Bubs,

You mean they paid taxes, just like every other corporation?
That's awful!
Feel free to cut out all the welfare payments that WalMart takes advantage of.

why should they benefit from the fathers hard work

Why not. You know, private ownership.

Yep, Walton's/Walmart use the best tax breaks they can buy in Congress!

Oh so our Founders were wrong to worry about INHERITED aristocracy over merit? Thanks for letting me know!

Yep, Walton's/Walmart use the best tax breaks they can buy in Congress!

Yep, same depreciation schedules as everyone else, same dividend tax rates, same corporate income tax rate.

Retail giant received $100 million in tax breaks for big executive bonuses


The report, titled “Walmart’s Executive Bonuses Cost Taxpayers Millions,” focuses on tax law that allows companies to deduct unlimited amounts for performance-based compensation. The law was put in place in 1993 in order to discourage excessive pay, according to the study, which goes on to say that Wal-Mart has abused the law.



Some members of Congress have introduced legislation to change law to prohibit tax deductions for executive bonuses. Rep. Lloyd Doggett, a Democrat from Texas who is pushing such a bill, excoriated big corporations for forcing small businesses and families to pay more because of the current tax law.

“Publicly held companies like Wal-Mart can continue paying their executives multimillion dollar bonuses; just don’t expect the American taxpayer to pick up your tab,” he said in a statement. “It makes no sense for working families to subsidize those making nearly 300 times the average worker.”

Wal-Mart attacked for big tax breaks - Fortune




“This report shows that our current system is anything but fair – rather it provides special treatment to America’s biggest corporations and richest families leaving individual taxpayers and small businesses to pick up the tab,” the report concluded.

The $7.8 billion includes an estimated $6.2 billion in public assistance for low-wage Walmart employees, including programs like food stamps, subsidized housing, and Medicaid. It also includes an estimated $70 million per year in “economic development subsidies” from state and legal governments eager to host Walmart in their cities.


Walmart benefits from billions in government subsidies: Study


How Wal-Mart Has Used Public Money in Your State

A secret behind Wal-Mart’s rapid expansion in the United States has been its extensive use of public money. This includes more than $1.2 billion in tax breaks, free land, infrastructure assistance, low-cost financing and outright grants from state and local governments around the country.

Wal-Mart Subsidy Watch - brought to you by Good Jobs First

tax law that allows companies to deduct unlimited amounts for performance-based compensation.

Hold on one second....WalMart is following the tax law????

Outrageous!!!!!

Moron.

Which your failed voting record allowed to happen.

My voting record has what to do with corporations deducting employee wages? LOL!

 

[boedicca]

True, they ONLY benefited over half the Corp tax breaks right Bubs,

You mean they paid taxes, just like every other corporation?
That's awful!
Feel free to cut out all the welfare payments that WalMart takes advantage of.

why should they benefit from the fathers hard work

Why not. You know, private ownership.

Yep, Walton's/Walmart use the best tax breaks they can buy in Congress!

Oh so our Founders were wrong to worry about INHERITED aristocracy over merit? Thanks for letting me know!

If it bothers you to have a complex tax code, the solution is quite simple: A low fair flat rate tax that applied to everyone.

Easy Peasy Lemon Squeezy!

Keep dreaming. A REGRESSIVE tax isn't needed, but weird how the GOP stops ANYTHING that might require their overlords to pay more equitable with their wealth!

What I find perplexing is how the liberals seem to think they have a right to someone elses earned income.

Increasingly I find some small difference between libs, who focus on social policy, and leftists, who focus on OPM (Other People's Money). That said, it is crystal clear that leftists will abide no infringement on their "right" to redistribute your wealth to themselves and those they would endow.
The income/wealth "inequality" scam so popular with loony leftists is a thin veneer for "take from the rich (anyone with more than them) and give it to me."

To the Progs, you have no rights.


7359 by boedicca on US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

 

[francoHFW]

When 95% of new wealth goes to the richest 1% and the nonrich and the country are falling apart, it's time for more taxes on the richest and their tax free corps.

Could that possibly be because the top 1% benefit from wise investments in America, creating new jobs, products and services while the poor do not invest at all? The rich are not rich because the poor are poor and the poor are not poor because the rich are rich. Your consistent jealousy - like that of all the loony lefties here, there and everywhere, has been duly noted ... again.

^^ Perfect brainwashed chump of the greedy idiot rich GOP...funny how I'm not jealous of Dem rich, just the lying a-holes we're all cheated by. see sig

 

[OnePercenter]

"That's not a tax break for the Waltons."



True, Walton's ONLY have a greater than 50% stake in Walmart

Remember, Walmart Procurement, Logistics, and Transportation are privately held companies wholly owned by the Walmart seven, so they receive more than the 'greater than 50% stake.'

Remember, Walmart Procurement, Logistics, and Transportation are privately held companies wholly owned by the Walmart seven, so they receive more than the 'greater than 50% stake.'

Prove it.

There is no mention of Walmart Procurement, Logistics, and Transportation in any SEC filings, which means they aren't part of Walmart Stores, Inc.

 

[OnePercenter]

With the Status quo.................NOPE..........We are trying to take out the trash...........how about your side...

Oops you favor Liars and criminals..............Like Hillary, and the pen and phone guy.

No. It's because the rich/wealthy like me don't want it, and we own your ass.

The only way to end income inequality and boost the economy is to regulate it.

I'm not certain who you think you are fooling but possession of some video game console does not mean you are wealthy.

Bloviating does not make your point.

 

[SAYIT]

Yes, the Kochs, Walton family, Romney ALL started at the same place as the poor *shaking head*

Sam Walton was a classic American rags-2-riches success story. The loony lefties who would destroy America's socio-economic system to serve their definition of "fairness" mostly want to end the kind of opportunity that made Walton's success possible:

"Sam Walton was born to Tom Gibson Walton and Nancy Lee, in Kingfisher, Oklahoma, He lived there with his parents on their farm until 1923. However, farming did not provide enough money to raise a family, and Thomas Walton went into farm mortgaging.
"Growing up during the Great Depression, Walton had numerous chores to help make financial ends meet for his family as was common at the time. He milked the family cow, bottled the surplus, and drove it to customers. Afterwards, he would deliver Columbia Daily Tribune newspapers on a paper route. In addition, he also sold magazine subscriptions.
"After high school, Walton decided to attend college, hoping to find a better way to help support his family. He attended the University of Missouri as an ROTC cadet. During this time, he worked various odd jobs, including waiting tables in exchange for meals."

 

[OnePercenter]

4
If you put 12.4% of your lifetime earnings in the stock market and 12.4% of your lifetime earnings into Social Security and die tomorrow, at the age of 61 years, 363 days, which of your two retirement plans will give your family more money, the stock market or Social Security?

Unless you had all of your eggs in the market when Republicans/corporate America/BushCo crashed the economy in 2007/2008.

Then you'd still have much, much more than from Social Security.

Tell that to the tens of millions of Americans that lost some or all of their retirement income.

 

[francoHFW]

Yep, Walton's/Walmart use the best tax breaks they can buy in Congress!

Oh so our Founders were wrong to worry about INHERITED aristocracy over merit? Thanks for letting me know!

If it bothers you to have a complex tax code, the solution is quite simple: A low fair flat rate tax that applied to everyone.

Easy Peasy Lemon Squeezy!

Keep dreaming. A REGRESSIVE tax isn't needed, but weird how the GOP stops ANYTHING that might require their overlords to pay more equitable with their wealth!

What I find perplexing is how the liberals seem to think they have a right to someone elses earned income.

Increasingly I find some small difference between libs, who focus on social policy, and leftists, who focus on OPM (Other People's Money). That said, it is crystal clear that leftists will abide no infringement on their "right" to redistribute your wealth to themselves and those they would endow.
The income/wealth "inequality" scam so popular with loony leftists is a thin veneer for "take from the rich (anyone with more than them) and give it to me."

To the Progs, you have no rights.


7359 by boedicca on US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

Total hater dupe bs. Give to rebuilding the nonrich and the country and training the UE. Jeebus you're brainwashed. Examples?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

If you put 12.4% of your lifetime earnings in the stock market and 12.4% of your lifetime earnings into Social Security and die tomorrow, at the age of 61 years, 363 days, which of your two retirement plans will give your family more money, the stock market or Social Security?

Don't understand how an INSURANCE policy works huh? I'm NOT surprised


Hint how'd the stock market work out after the Banksters hosed US in the 1920's?

If you're paying 12.4% of your lifetime earnings for a low yielding insurance policy, you may be doing it wrong.

So NO, you don't understand how insurance works. Thanks anyways

Let's see, pay 12.4% of my lifetime earnings, die a week before I start collecting benefits and my family gets
basically zero.

Wow, great insurance! Sounds like a program only an idiot or a liberal (but then I repeat myself) would create.

Define: 'basically zero.'

Since the guy is in his early 60s, I assume no minor children.
And since his wife worked too, she's still going to collect her same benefit.
No boost based on his early death.

So how much was your income that you paid zero taxes on? Details man.

 

[boedicca]

If it bothers you to have a complex tax code, the solution is quite simple: A low fair flat rate tax that applied to everyone.

Easy Peasy Lemon Squeezy!

Keep dreaming. A REGRESSIVE tax isn't needed, but weird how the GOP stops ANYTHING that might require their overlords to pay more equitable with their wealth!

What I find perplexing is how the liberals seem to think they have a right to someone elses earned income.

Increasingly I find some small difference between libs, who focus on social policy, and leftists, who focus on OPM (Other People's Money). That said, it is crystal clear that leftists will abide no infringement on their "right" to redistribute your wealth to themselves and those they would endow.
The income/wealth "inequality" scam so popular with loony leftists is a thin veneer for "take from the rich (anyone with more than them) and give it to me."

To the Progs, you have no rights.


7359 by boedicca on US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

Total hater dupe bs. Give to rebuilding the nonrich and the country and training the UE. Jeebus you're brainwashed. Examples?

Please, take an English as a Second Language class.

 

[thanatos144]

If it bothers you to have a complex tax code, the solution is quite simple: A low fair flat rate tax that applied to everyone.

Easy Peasy Lemon Squeezy!

Keep dreaming. A REGRESSIVE tax isn't needed, but weird how the GOP stops ANYTHING that might require their overlords to pay more equitable with their wealth!

What I find perplexing is how the liberals seem to think they have a right to someone elses earned income.

Increasingly I find some small difference between libs, who focus on social policy, and leftists, who focus on OPM (Other People's Money). That said, it is crystal clear that leftists will abide no infringement on their "right" to redistribute your wealth to themselves and those they would endow.
The income/wealth "inequality" scam so popular with loony leftists is a thin veneer for "take from the rich (anyone with more than them) and give it to me."

To the Progs, you have no rights.


7359 by boedicca on US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

Total hater dupe bs. Give to rebuilding the nonrich and the country and training the UE. Jeebus you're brainwashed. Examples?

So what is it that makes you hate the children of the USA that you burden them wit my debt? Why are you so greedy?

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