Should The Rich Be Required To Pay Higher Taxes In the US?

[danielpalos]

right wing projection, is still, nothing but the repeal of rejection instead of a better solution at lower cost, rebuttal.

So you are a fraud, I got it.

practice makes perfect.

It seems you are the perfect fraud.

dear, you have nothing but diversion, which is usually considered a fallacy.

I am not a dear, so please cease with the tripe. You have done nothing but divert, which is considered a fallacy.

we have a Commerce Clause; don't complain, be Patriotic.

 

[usmbguest5318]

I hope you wrote that just to try to be cute and that you didn't ask that question with serious intent.

1. Donald Trump is a wealthy person. He is not "rich people" nor is he "the rich." He is a member of those groups, not the entirety of those groups.
2. How do you know what Trump paid in personal income taxes? I haven't seen is tax returns, so I don't know. I can make some pretty good inferences about what he may have paid, but that's about it. I recall the news about his nearly one billion dollar net operating loss, but I don't know to what tax years he elected to roll it forward or backward. Do you?

nothing but diversion? or, do you prefer to, "blame the poor" for not paying income taxes.

seems like a, "conflict of interest" if he wants to lower taxes, for the rich.

Would you please clarify your comments using complete sentences that allow me to be certain about which parts of my prior post you are referring to. I responded to you in clear English so you wouldn't have trouble understanding. Would you do the same please? I'd like to know what you are trying to communicate, but it's not at all clear in the most recent post above.

seems like a, "conflict of interest" if he wants to lower taxes, for the rich.

What Trump has proposed is lowering the marginal tax rates.

That is the "conflict of interest" part.

Does our Commander in Chief believe we should lower taxes during any alleged need for the exigencies, he alleges to believe are necessary and proper and executed via executive order, for any alleged exigency of "national security" and the necessity and propriety of national security Tax Rates, now?

In other words, are we in Real Times of War or not.

Real times of War require real times of War, tax rates;

In consideration of the monstrous sacrifice in property and blood that each war demands of the people, personal enrichment through a war must be designated as a crime against the people. Therefore, we demand the total confiscation of all war profits.

The People, have a need to know.

Does our Commander in Chief believe we should lower taxes during any alleged need for the exigencies, he alleges to believe are necessary and proper and executed via executive order, for any alleged exigency of "national security" and the necessity and propriety of national security Tax Rates, now?

Dude, if you are going to posit cocamamey shit, it needs to at least be shit that falls within the most basic confines of the law. The President does not have the power to raise or lower tax rates. That is a power of the Congress and they have not yet ceded it to the President. The closest thing to taxing power/authority that a president has is with regard to tariffs and trade agreements. Sure, one can call that a tax, but it's not the type of tax we're discussing here.

 

[Papageorgio]

So you are a fraud, I got it.

practice makes perfect.

It seems you are the perfect fraud.

dear, you have nothing but diversion, which is usually considered a fallacy.

I am not a dear, so please cease with the tripe. You have done nothing but divert, which is considered a fallacy.

we have a Commerce Clause; don't complain, be Patriotic.

Commerce clause to raise taxes on the poor? What the hell is wrong with you and wanting to tax the poor? You are a fruitcake.

 

[danielpalos]

nothing but diversion? or, do you prefer to, "blame the poor" for not paying income taxes.

seems like a, "conflict of interest" if he wants to lower taxes, for the rich.

Would you please clarify your comments using complete sentences that allow me to be certain about which parts of my prior post you are referring to. I responded to you in clear English so you wouldn't have trouble understanding. Would you do the same please? I'd like to know what you are trying to communicate, but it's not at all clear in the most recent post above.

seems like a, "conflict of interest" if he wants to lower taxes, for the rich.

What Trump has proposed is lowering the marginal tax rates.

That is the "conflict of interest" part.

Does our Commander in Chief believe we should lower taxes during any alleged need for the exigencies, he alleges to believe are necessary and proper and executed via executive order, for any alleged exigency of "national security" and the necessity and propriety of national security Tax Rates, now?

In other words, are we in Real Times of War or not.

Real times of War require real times of War, tax rates;

In consideration of the monstrous sacrifice in property and blood that each war demands of the people, personal enrichment through a war must be designated as a crime against the people. Therefore, we demand the total confiscation of all war profits.

The People, have a need to know.

Does our Commander in Chief believe we should lower taxes during any alleged need for the exigencies, he alleges to believe are necessary and proper and executed via executive order, for any alleged exigency of "national security" and the necessity and propriety of national security Tax Rates, now?

Dude, if you are going to posit cocamamey shit, it needs to at least be shit that falls within the most basic confines of the law. The President does not have the power to raise or lower tax rates. That is a power of the Congress and they have yet ceded it to the President. The closest thing to taxing power/authority that a president has is with regard to tariffs and trade agreements. Sure, one can call that a tax, but it's not the type of tax we're discussing here.

are we in real times of War, or not:

In consideration of the monstrous sacrifice in property and blood that each war demands of the people, personal enrichment through a war must be designated as a crime against the people. Therefore, we demand the total confiscation of all war profits.

 

[danielpalos]

practice makes perfect.

It seems you are the perfect fraud.

dear, you have nothing but diversion, which is usually considered a fallacy.

I am not a dear, so please cease with the tripe. You have done nothing but divert, which is considered a fallacy.

we have a Commerce Clause; don't complain, be Patriotic.

Commerce clause to raise taxes on the poor? What the hell is wrong with you and wanting to tax the poor? You are a fruitcake.

nothing but fantasy from the national socialist right wing?

 

[Papageorgio]

It seems you are the perfect fraud.

dear, you have nothing but diversion, which is usually considered a fallacy.

I am not a dear, so please cease with the tripe. You have done nothing but divert, which is considered a fallacy.

we have a Commerce Clause; don't complain, be Patriotic.

Commerce clause to raise taxes on the poor? What the hell is wrong with you and wanting to tax the poor? You are a fruitcake.

nothing but fantasy from the national socialist right wing?

Why do you want to raise taxes on the poor? Should we not lower taxes on the poor and everyone else.

 

[usmbguest5318]

Would you please clarify your comments using complete sentences that allow me to be certain about which parts of my prior post you are referring to. I responded to you in clear English so you wouldn't have trouble understanding. Would you do the same please? I'd like to know what you are trying to communicate, but it's not at all clear in the most recent post above.

seems like a, "conflict of interest" if he wants to lower taxes, for the rich.

What Trump has proposed is lowering the marginal tax rates.

That is the "conflict of interest" part.

Does our Commander in Chief believe we should lower taxes during any alleged need for the exigencies, he alleges to believe are necessary and proper and executed via executive order, for any alleged exigency of "national security" and the necessity and propriety of national security Tax Rates, now?

In other words, are we in Real Times of War or not.

Real times of War require real times of War, tax rates;

In consideration of the monstrous sacrifice in property and blood that each war demands of the people, personal enrichment through a war must be designated as a crime against the people. Therefore, we demand the total confiscation of all war profits.

The People, have a need to know.

Does our Commander in Chief believe we should lower taxes during any alleged need for the exigencies, he alleges to believe are necessary and proper and executed via executive order, for any alleged exigency of "national security" and the necessity and propriety of national security Tax Rates, now?

Dude, if you are going to posit cocamamey shit, it needs to at least be shit that falls within the most basic confines of the law. The President does not have the power to raise or lower tax rates. That is a power of the Congress and they have yet ceded it to the President. The closest thing to taxing power/authority that a president has is with regard to tariffs and trade agreements. Sure, one can call that a tax, but it's not the type of tax we're discussing here.

are we in real times of War, or not:

In consideration of the monstrous sacrifice in property and blood that each war demands of the people, personal enrichment through a war must be designated as a crime against the people. Therefore, we demand the total confiscation of all war profits.

I cannot answer the question because "real times" and "war times" are not mutually exclusive things. Moreover, though "war time" is at least definable in terms of whether the U.S. is actively in a war declared by Congress, "real times" is some nebulous term you've created, used, asked me about, and not precisely defined. I'm not like a lot of people whom you'll encounter in that I won't opine or make declarations about things I don't fully understand.

 

[francoHFW]

dear, you have nothing but diversion, which is usually considered a fallacy.

I am not a dear, so please cease with the tripe. You have done nothing but divert, which is considered a fallacy.

we have a Commerce Clause; don't complain, be Patriotic.

Commerce clause to raise taxes on the poor? What the hell is wrong with you and wanting to tax the poor? You are a fruitcake.

nothing but fantasy from the national socialist right wing?

Why do you want to raise taxes on the poor? Should we not lower taxes on the poor and everyone else.

Except our bloated rich and giant corporations, the beneficiaries of the Reaganism of the last 35 years.

 

[Papageorgio]

I am not a dear, so please cease with the tripe. You have done nothing but divert, which is considered a fallacy.

we have a Commerce Clause; don't complain, be Patriotic.

Commerce clause to raise taxes on the poor? What the hell is wrong with you and wanting to tax the poor? You are a fruitcake.

nothing but fantasy from the national socialist right wing?

Why do you want to raise taxes on the poor? Should we not lower taxes on the poor and everyone else.

Except our bloated rich and giant corporations, the beneficiaries of the Reaganism of the last 35 years.

Pressure your Congressmen, they are the ones not closing up the loopholes, they are the ones subsidizing them. If you are pissed, you should be pissed at Congress. Don't blame Reagan, he didn't pass any laws, that is why you are your bullshit is laughed at.

 

[francoHFW]

we have a Commerce Clause; don't complain, be Patriotic.

Commerce clause to raise taxes on the poor? What the hell is wrong with you and wanting to tax the poor? You are a fruitcake.

nothing but fantasy from the national socialist right wing?

Why do you want to raise taxes on the poor? Should we not lower taxes on the poor and everyone else.

Except our bloated rich and giant corporations, the beneficiaries of the Reaganism of the last 35 years.

Pressure your Congressmen, they are the ones not closing up the loopholes, they are the ones subsidizing them. If you are pissed, you should be pissed at Congress. Don't blame Reagan, he didn't pass any laws, that is why you are your bullshit is laughed at.

Vote Dem duh. All the GOP does is cut taxes on the rich and giant corps. And baffle dupes like you.

 

[francoHFW]

REAGANISM, not Reagan. Arrggghh

 

[Papageorgio]

Commerce clause to raise taxes on the poor? What the hell is wrong with you and wanting to tax the poor? You are a fruitcake.

nothing but fantasy from the national socialist right wing?

Why do you want to raise taxes on the poor? Should we not lower taxes on the poor and everyone else.

Except our bloated rich and giant corporations, the beneficiaries of the Reaganism of the last 35 years.

Pressure your Congressmen, they are the ones not closing up the loopholes, they are the ones subsidizing them. If you are pissed, you should be pissed at Congress. Don't blame Reagan, he didn't pass any laws, that is why you are your bullshit is laughed at.

Vote Dem duh. All the GOP does is cut taxes on the rich and giant corps. And baffle dupes like you.

When Dems have held Congress they have failed to close loopholes and corporate welfare. They have no interest in biting the hands that feeds them. That goes for all of Congress, your partisan blinders are disgusting, bigoted and hateful.

 

[francoHFW]

nothing but fantasy from the national socialist right wing?

Why do you want to raise taxes on the poor? Should we not lower taxes on the poor and everyone else.

Except our bloated rich and giant corporations, the beneficiaries of the Reaganism of the last 35 years.

Pressure your Congressmen, they are the ones not closing up the loopholes, they are the ones subsidizing them. If you are pissed, you should be pissed at Congress. Don't blame Reagan, he didn't pass any laws, that is why you are your bullshit is laughed at.

Vote Dem duh. All the GOP does is cut taxes on the rich and giant corps. And baffle dupes like you.

When Dems have held Congress they have failed to close loopholes and corporate welfare. They have no interest in biting the hands that feeds them. That goes for all of Congress, your partisan blinders are disgusting, bigoted and hateful.

Blocked by the New BS GOP under Clinton AND Obama...O couldn't do that DURING a meltdown when he HAD power- for a month.

 

[Papageorgio]

Why do you want to raise taxes on the poor? Should we not lower taxes on the poor and everyone else.

Except our bloated rich and giant corporations, the beneficiaries of the Reaganism of the last 35 years.

Pressure your Congressmen, they are the ones not closing up the loopholes, they are the ones subsidizing them. If you are pissed, you should be pissed at Congress. Don't blame Reagan, he didn't pass any laws, that is why you are your bullshit is laughed at.

Vote Dem duh. All the GOP does is cut taxes on the rich and giant corps. And baffle dupes like you.

When Dems have held Congress they have failed to close loopholes and corporate welfare. They have no interest in biting the hands that feeds them. That goes for all of Congress, your partisan blinders are disgusting, bigoted and hateful.

Blocked by the New BS GOP under Clinton AND Obama...O couldn't do that DURING a meltdown when he HAD power- for a month.

Excuses, excuses. It's funny how the GOP gets everything they want passed and the Democrats are blocked all the time. Sounds like the Democrats are pretty pathetic lawmakers. Your BS is off the charts. The more you simple minded people play partisan politics the better of the rich and Congress are. Dupe!

 

[Skull Pilot]

Due to the enormous corruption and cronyism in our federal government, many wealthy use their expensive lawyers to get out of paying taxes. The current tax code is 70k pages...time for a change.

Let's go to a simple flat tax. That would eliminate the political class' efforts to enrich their donors/owners.

I would be behind a progressive consumption tax, that way everybody has a dog in the race. A flat tax doesn't work for a lot of people. For instance, I'm a landlord and I have tons of expenses I have to write-off. Without those write-offs, I would be forced to sell because the property wouldn't produce any profit. Either that or I would have to raise rents so high that people wouldn't be able to afford to live here.

a flat tax on income still allows a business to write off expenses then the income (profit) is taxed at a flat rate

 

[francoHFW]

Except our bloated rich and giant corporations, the beneficiaries of the Reaganism of the last 35 years.

Pressure your Congressmen, they are the ones not closing up the loopholes, they are the ones subsidizing them. If you are pissed, you should be pissed at Congress. Don't blame Reagan, he didn't pass any laws, that is why you are your bullshit is laughed at.

Vote Dem duh. All the GOP does is cut taxes on the rich and giant corps. And baffle dupes like you.

When Dems have held Congress they have failed to close loopholes and corporate welfare. They have no interest in biting the hands that feeds them. That goes for all of Congress, your partisan blinders are disgusting, bigoted and hateful.

Blocked by the New BS GOP under Clinton AND Obama...O couldn't do that DURING a meltdown when he HAD power- for a month.

Excuses, excuses. It's funny how the GOP gets everything they want passed and the Democrats are blocked all the time. Sounds like the Democrats are pretty pathetic lawmakers. Your BS is off the charts. The more you simple minded people play partisan politics the better of the rich and Congress are. Dupe!

The GOP only wants to defend Reaganist tax rates, keep deregulation and block progress, genius. They never pass ANYTHING, dupe. The greedy idiot rich love things as is...

 

[Skull Pilot]

Pressure your Congressmen, they are the ones not closing up the loopholes, they are the ones subsidizing them. If you are pissed, you should be pissed at Congress. Don't blame Reagan, he didn't pass any laws, that is why you are your bullshit is laughed at.

Vote Dem duh. All the GOP does is cut taxes on the rich and giant corps. And baffle dupes like you.

When Dems have held Congress they have failed to close loopholes and corporate welfare. They have no interest in biting the hands that feeds them. That goes for all of Congress, your partisan blinders are disgusting, bigoted and hateful.

Blocked by the New BS GOP under Clinton AND Obama...O couldn't do that DURING a meltdown when he HAD power- for a month.

Excuses, excuses. It's funny how the GOP gets everything they want passed and the Democrats are blocked all the time. Sounds like the Democrats are pretty pathetic lawmakers. Your BS is off the charts. The more you simple minded people play partisan politics the better of the rich and Congress are. Dupe!

The GOP only wants to defend Reaganist tax rates, keep deregulation and block progress, genius. They never pass ANYTHING, dupe. The greedy idiot rich love things as is...

The less the government does the better it is for the people

 

[hadit]

Should The Rich Be Required To Pay Higher Taxes In the US?

I think the rich should ABSOLUTELY pay more

Just how much more would you have rich people pay? Wealthy people already pay over half the total personal federal income taxes collected.

do they, actually pay that or does an, artificial person do it for them?

Mr. Trump did not pay any personal income taxes, recently.

Evidence?

Should we ask, wikileaks?

No. You said it, I'm asking you.

 

[Papageorgio]

Pressure your Congressmen, they are the ones not closing up the loopholes, they are the ones subsidizing them. If you are pissed, you should be pissed at Congress. Don't blame Reagan, he didn't pass any laws, that is why you are your bullshit is laughed at.

Vote Dem duh. All the GOP does is cut taxes on the rich and giant corps. And baffle dupes like you.

When Dems have held Congress they have failed to close loopholes and corporate welfare. They have no interest in biting the hands that feeds them. That goes for all of Congress, your partisan blinders are disgusting, bigoted and hateful.

Blocked by the New BS GOP under Clinton AND Obama...O couldn't do that DURING a meltdown when he HAD power- for a month.

Excuses, excuses. It's funny how the GOP gets everything they want passed and the Democrats are blocked all the time. Sounds like the Democrats are pretty pathetic lawmakers. Your BS is off the charts. The more you simple minded people play partisan politics the better of the rich and Congress are. Dupe!

The GOP only wants to defend Reaganist tax rates, keep deregulation and block progress, genius. They never pass ANYTHING, dupe. The greedy idiot rich love things as is...

The greedy rich in Congress, you got that right. I am not going to defend The GOP, however I'm not going to let your rich Democratic friends off the hook. When they control Congress they did nothing to change tax laws. The Democrats held the majority in Congress and passed the tax laws that you blame Reagan for. It would never of happened without the Democratic Congress passing laws.

 

[hadit]

Should The Rich Be Required To Pay Higher Taxes In the US?

I think the rich should ABSOLUTELY pay more

Just how much more would you have rich people pay? Wealthy people already pay over half the total personal federal income taxes collected.

do they, actually pay that or does an, artificial person do it for them?

I hope you wrote that just to try to be cute and that you didn't ask that question with serious intent.

Mr. Trump did not pay any personal income taxes, recently.

1. Donald Trump is a wealthy person. He is not "rich people" nor is he "the rich." He is a member of those groups, not the entirety of those groups.
2. How do you know what Trump paid in personal income taxes? I haven't seen is tax returns, so I don't know. I can make some pretty good inferences about what he may have paid, but that's about it. I recall the news about his nearly one billion dollar net operating loss, but I don't know to what tax years he elected to roll it forward or backward. Do you?

nothing but diversion? or, do you prefer to, "blame the poor" for not paying income taxes.

seems like a, "conflict of interest" if he wants to lower taxes, for the rich.

Would you please clarify your comments using complete sentences that allow me to be certain about which parts of my prior post you are referring to. I responded to you in clear English so you wouldn't have trouble understanding. Would you do the same please? I'd like to know what you are trying to communicate, but it's not at all clear in the most recent post above.

Sadly, this is about as clear as it's going to get. I've been down that road.