Should the parents of unvaccinated kids in S. Texas who have contracted the measles..............

[Lesh]

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"can"






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What’s your (stupid) point?

 

[hadit]

Some nutjob fringe “internet virologists “

The vast majority totally support vaccinations

The point is, you can find "experts" or people with high level degrees behind their names who say just about anything you want them to.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

The point is, you can find "experts" or people with high level degrees behind their names who say just about anything you want them to.

 

[Lesh]

The point is, you can find "experts" or people with high level degrees behind their names who say just about anything you want though

And you tards find says to listen to the nut job fringe ones because you want to

 

[Lesh]

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Really?

Prove it. Prove that the “mavericks “ aren’t doing it for money

 

[sparky]

Some nutjob fringe “internet virologists “

Yes, if you mean the one's not on big pharma's payroll

The vast majority totally support vaccinations

As do i as well Lesh

Just keep it real , and i'm in.....

~S~

 

[hadit]

And you tards find says to listen to the nut job fringe ones because you want to

Every momentous change in medicine and science started from a crackpot who was reviled by the majority. You can't discount someone's professional opinion just because it counters the orthodoxy.

"The earth revolves around the sun".

"HERETIC!!!"

 

[Lesh]

Every momentous change in medicine and science started from a crackpot who was reviled by the majority. You can't discount someone's professional opinion just because it counters the orthodoxy.

"The earth revolves around the sun".

"HERETIC!!!"

How many nutjobs have there been saying stupid shit?

How many have been revolutionary?

Answers. Very very many… and very very few

But you believe the improbable because it suits what yu want to believe

 

[hadit]

Yes, if you mean the one's not on big pharma's payroll

As do i as well Lesh

Just keep it real , and i'm in.....

~S~

We should always be skeptical of new drugs, because how many times have we seen some new miracle drug appear on the scene, only to find out in a few years it caused more harm than good? We have to weigh the potential benefits and costs to see if it makes sense to use them. I am over 60 now and have had the Covid vaccine. If I was 30, that may be a different answer.

I have either never had Covid or had a very mild form of it (I can guarantee I've been exposed to it), so I'm not panicking if I don't get every booster that hits the market. My daughter and son-in-law have both had it multiple times and been very sick. They are getting every booster that comes out. Maybe my immune system is strong.

Apparently, applying critical thought to accepting or refusing a vaccine is double plus ungood. Either you get it and you're a good little foot soldier or you don't and you're enemy number one.

 

[Lesh]

Yes, if you mean the one's not on big pharma's payroll

As do i as well Lesh

Just keep it real , and i'm in.....

~S~

Problem being… the crazy ones you believe are usually either trying to milk fools like you or on the payroll of some “think tank” or rich guy trying to play politics

 

[Lesh]

We should always be skeptical of new drugs, because how many times have we seen some new miracle drug appear on the scene, only to find out in a few years it caused more harm than good? We have to weigh the potential benefits and costs to see if it makes sense to use them. I am over 60 now and have had the Covid vaccine. If I was 30, that may be a different answer.

I have either never had Covid or had a very mild form of it (I can guarantee I've been exposed to it), so I'm not panicking if I don't get every booster that hits the market. My daughter and son-in-law have both had it multiple times and been very sick. They are getting every booster that comes out. Maybe my immune system is strong.

Apparently, applying critical thought to accepting or refusing a vaccine is double plus ungood. Either you get it and you're a good little foot soldier or you don't and you're enemy number one.

You’re confusing luck with public policy

Stupid people do that

 

[sparky]

Problem being… the crazy ones you believe are usually either trying to milk fools like you or on the payroll of some “think tank” or rich guy trying to play politics

lol Lesh!

Can we agree the 'science' in capitalist medicine has always been shill , along with Congress being lobbied towards big pharma's biases ......??

~S~

 

[Frankeneinstein]

If you have info about whether these kids are illegal aliens please share it. I do not.

So what should happen to the parents if they are "undocumented" and their children do not have vaccinations? figure it out and apply that to your question.

 

[hadit]

Measles outbreak grows bigger in rural Texas, and officials expect more cases​

At least 58 new cases of measles have been reported across northwest Texas in recent weeks, state health officials said Tuesday, in a "highly contagious" outbreak that might be linked to lack of vaccination.

A bulk of these new cases in rural northwest Texas are in Gaines County with 45 documented incidents of the disease, according to the Texas Department of State Health Services.

In the last three weeks, nine cases have come from Terry County, two from Yoakum County and one each from Lubbock and Lynn Counties, according to the state.

At least four patients had been vaccinated, but the "rest are unvaccinated, or their vaccination status is unknown," the health department said.

Most of the infections are in school-age kids, and 13 have been hospitalized.

More cases are expected.

Measles outbreak grows bigger in rural Texas, and officials expect more cases

Out of the 58 new cases over the past three weeks, 13 people have been hospitalized.

www.nbcnews.com

...........be held responsible for unnecessarily putting their kid's health, and other kid's health, in jeopardy?

What about the HHS director if his anti-vaccine stance convinced some of those parents not to vaccinate their kids? Any responsibility there?

If he did, it would have been before he was in office, so there's that.

 

[Frankeneinstein]

"Children who attend school in Ontario must have proof of immunization against certain diseases, unless a valid exemption is provided.

what would constitute "valid"?

As a parent, it is your responsibility to report your child’s immunization status to your local public health unit; your health care provider does not send this information for you.

Children who are exempt from immunization are at increased risk and may be removed from school during a disease outbreak."

Risks and responsibilities of choosing not to vaccinate your child | The Immunization Well-Child Toolkit

Find resources to inform patients about vaccine-preventable diseases and vaccines.

www.ontario.ca

It matters in Canada. Every province has similar laws.

Big deal, Mexico doesn't have anything even remotely like that going on and they don't seem any worse off than Canada...in fact between the two I would choose Mexico over Canada.

 

[sparky]

what would constitute "valid"?

simply cause / effect Frank.....~S~

 

[hadit]

You’re confusing luck with public policy

Stupid people do that

Interesting. Covid is not an automatic death sentence, and it generally kills a well-known segment of society. Namely, those with compromised immune systems or whose systems are not very strong, aka the very young and very old (this sounds familiar, just like the flu). If I am, as you say, lucky enough that the starter vaccine plus my immune system has kept me from getting very sick, why then would I NOT refuse to panic? You seem to be in a camp that believes those who don't get sick are the enemy.

 

[berg80]

The point is, you can find "experts" or people with high level degrees behind their names who say just about anything you want them to.

More Than 100 Cases of Measles Reported in Utah and Arizona​

In the hardest-hit counties, childhood vaccination rates steeply declined during the pandemic.

Just as one large measles outbreak peters out in the United States, another outbreak of the virus has taken off along the border of Utah and Arizona.

The new outbreak began in August and has sickened more than 100 people, making it the second-largest cluster of cases in the country this year. A majority of the cases are in unvaccinated people.

It comes during an already bleak year for the nation’s public health: The number of measles cases hit a 34-year high this summer, largely driven by the so-called “Southwest outbreak,” which grew to more than 880 cases across Texas, New Mexico and Oklahoma. Several epidemiologists agreed that the current scale and spread of cases most closely resembles the large outbreaks of the early 1990s — before nationwide immunization campaigns and school vaccine mandates helped the United States declare the virus eliminated.

“We certainly have not had anything like this in many, many, many years,” said Walter Ornstein, an emeritus professor at Emory University and former director of the United States Immunization Program at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/10/21/well/more-than-100-cases-of-measles-reported-in-utah-and-arizona.html

If only people followed RFK's advice the outbreaks would be much worse.

 

[Lesh]

Interesting. Covid is not an automatic death sentence, and it generally kills a well-known segment of society. Namely, those with compromised immune systems or whose systems are not very strong, aka the very young and very old (this sounds familiar, just like the flu). If I am, as you say, lucky enough that the starter vaccine plus my immune system has kept me from getting very sick, why then would I NOT refuse to panic? You seem to be in a camp that believes those who don't get sick are the enemy.

Who’s telling you to panic? If you want to gamble don’t get the vaccine.

Just don’t stupidly tell others not to.

 

[Lesh]

lol Lesh!

Can we agree the 'science' in capitalist medicine has always been shill , along with Congress being lobbied towards big pharma's biases ......??

~S~

No. We can’t agree on that. Save your paranoia for your barbershop buddies