Should the parents of unvaccinated kids in S. Texas who have contracted the measles..............

[hadit]

Who’s telling you to panic? If you want to gamble don’t get the vaccine.

Just don’t stupidly tell others not to.

I've never done that. I get vaccines when they make sense to get them.

 

[berg80]

Every momentous change in medicine and science started from a crackpot who was reviled by the majority. You can't discount someone's professional opinion just because it counters the orthodoxy.

"The earth revolves around the sun".

"HERETIC!!!"

For the last two decades, most large measles outbreaks have had ties to close-knit communities that have long had low vaccine uptake, said Dr. William Moss, an epidemiologist at the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health who has studied measles for more than 25 years.

The 2019 measles outbreak in New York, for example, almost exclusively spread through communities of ultra-Orthodox Jews. The largest outbreak before that, in 2014, was overwhelmingly confined to an Amish community in Ohio. And the outbreak in West Texas earlier this year spread mainly through a large Mennonite community.

In the current outbreak, cases have been clustered in Colorado City, Ariz., and Hildale, Utah — adjoining cities with historical ties to the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, a polygamist offshoot of the Mormon Church. However, local public health officials said the virus had spread beyond members of that religious group into the broader community, where vaccination rates have dropped steeply since the pandemic.

 

[Frankeneinstein]

simply cause / effect Frank.....~S~

and what would that be in this case?

 

[hadit]

More Than 100 Cases of Measles Reported in Utah and Arizona​

In the hardest-hit counties, childhood vaccination rates steeply declined during the pandemic.

Just as one large measles outbreak peters out in the United States, another outbreak of the virus has taken off along the border of Utah and Arizona.

The new outbreak began in August and has sickened more than 100 people, making it the second-largest cluster of cases in the country this year. A majority of the cases are in unvaccinated people.

It comes during an already bleak year for the nation’s public health: The number of measles cases hit a 34-year high this summer, largely driven by the so-called “Southwest outbreak,” which grew to more than 880 cases across Texas, New Mexico and Oklahoma. Several epidemiologists agreed that the current scale and spread of cases most closely resembles the large outbreaks of the early 1990s — before nationwide immunization campaigns and school vaccine mandates helped the United States declare the virus eliminated.

“We certainly have not had anything like this in many, many, many years,” said Walter Ornstein, an emeritus professor at Emory University and former director of the United States Immunization Program at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/10/21/well/more-than-100-cases-of-measles-reported-in-utah-and-arizona.html

If only people followed RFK's advice the outbreaks would be much worse.

The stupidity comes when trying to blame RFK for this. The measles vaccine is given in infancy and most of the unvaxxed kids are of school age. That means they were denied the vaccine well before RFK took office.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

lol Lesh!

Can we agree the 'science' in capitalist medicine has always been shill , along with Congress being lobbied towards big pharma's biases ......??

~S~

Spot on! It was waaaaay better when our life expectancy was 38, and we died from stepping on a nail.

 

[Lesh]

The stupidity comes when trying to blame RFK for this. The measles vaccine is given in infancy and most of the unvaxxed kids are of school age. That means they were denied the vaccine well before RFK took office.

And yet he wants to make things worse

 

[Frankeneinstein]

If you have info about whether these kids are illegal aliens please share it. I do not.

So what we have here is just another question lacking proper information...so for all you know these/this outbreak(s) is due to "undocumented" residents, correct?

 

[berg80]

The stupidity comes when trying to blame RFK for this. The measles vaccine is given in infancy and most of the unvaxxed kids are of school age. That means they were denied the vaccine well before RFK took office.

He has been espousing his antivax madness for years.

 

[hadit]

And yet he wants to make things worse

Why are you excusing the previous admin for not getting these kids vaccinated? It's all fine and dandy to blame TRUMP! for it until it becomes clear it happened on Quid Pro Joe's watch. Then all of a sudden, it's no big deal, it's the parents' fault, etc. etc.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Why are you excusing the previous admin for not getting these kids vaccinated? It's all fine and dandy to blame TRUMP! for it until it becomes clear it happened on Quid Pro Joe's watch. Then all of a sudden, it's no big deal, it's the parents' fault, etc. etc.

Thats the lasting effect of the words of the fat rapist. His office comes with power and responsibility, and so do his words.

 

[cnm]

The point is, you can find "experts" or people with high level degrees behind their names who say just about anything you want them to.

That's why most people accept this thing called 'consensus'.

 

[Unkotare]

So what should happen to the parents if they are "undocumented" and their children do not have vaccinations? figure it out and apply that to your question.

If the children are school-aged, they will be vaccinated through the school when they are registered.

 

[Frankeneinstein]

If the children are school-aged, they will be vaccinated through the school when they are registered.

doesn't answer the question but ok, is that not also true of all children and if so then what is the point of the OP?

 

[Unkotare]

doesn't answer the question but ok, is that not also true of all children ...?

It is.

 

[hadit]

Thats the lasting effect of the words of the fat rapist.

Good thing we don't have any of those around.

His office comes with power and responsibility, and so do his words.

RFK was not in office, full stop.

 

[Unkotare]

... so then what is the point of the OP?

Beats me.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Good thing we don't have that

I don't have to account for your embarrassing cultism. Trump is fat and a rapist. These are facts in the public record.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

RFK was not in office, full stop.

Right, the anti vaccine horseshit poured forth from the mouth of the fat orange charity thief.

He repeatedly claimed that childhood vaccines cause autism.

 

[Frankeneinstein]

Beats me.

lol...that's the puzzling part

 

[hadit]

Right, the anti vaccine horseshit poured forth from the mouth of the fat orange charity thief.

He repeatedly claimed that childhood vaccines cause autism.

Great, now show that he made those claims when the children would have been vaccinated and show that the parents give a flying rat's patoot about who is in the White House.

I know conservative Mennonites, and quite frankly, most are apolitical. Start with that.