Should Israel withdraw to the Separation Barrier?

[Victory67]

If peace talks with Palestine fail, should Israel just withdraw to the Separation Barrier while maintaining a military presence along the Jordanian border in the Jordan Valley?

If Israel does this they can claim before any criminal or other international court Palestine might take them before, that they have withdrawn from all Occupied Territories up to a point where security demands an Israeli presence until a final peace treaty is reached ..

(which does actually comply with UN resolution 242 which requires Israel to withdraw from "lands" Occupied since 1967 and for all states to recognize Israel within secure and defensable borders).

And many throughout the world would accept that reasoning, as only 8.5% of the West Bank would remain under Israel control, meaning 91.5% of Arab Palestine (the West Bank) and all of Gaza would be free to become an independent State of Palestine, and that's a pretty damn good deal in the absence of a formal peace treaty.

 

[toastman]

No.


Also, you're an idiot

 

[MHunterB]

Why don't you drop Bibi a line and make that suggestion to him? I'm sure he'll thank you for your interest.

 

[Victory67]

Why don't you drop Bibi a line and make that suggestion to him? I'm sure he'll thank you for your interest.

They've surely been discussing this for years.

 

[Victory67]

I think if Israel did this they would finally have the moral highground and many in the world would say "wow, nice job Israel. We didn't think you had it in you".

 

[Hossfly]

I think if Israel did this they would finally have the moral highground and many in the world would say "wow, nice job Israel. We didn't think you had it in you".

Israel isn't impressed with a bunch of 'attaboys'.

 

[Victory67]

I think if Israel did this they would finally have the moral highground and many in the world would say "wow, nice job Israel. We didn't think you had it in you".

Israel isn't impressed with a bunch of 'attaboys'.

You never know. They might just surprise you.

 

[Indeependent]

Israel withdraws from a multi-billion dollar, multi-year investment in infrastructure.
All settlements are then abandoned within a given time frame.
The professional Islamic money makers then convince the WBJs to literally destroy the beautifully architected cities (aka settlements) and lob grenades into Israel.
Israel wants to retaliate but the professional Islamic money makers go to the UN and say Israeli Jews must withdraw to their 1938 Germany, Polish and Russian territories.

Israel then kills every f*ing WBJ and rebuilds the cities.
I kind of like this very likely scenario.

Any other brilliant fantasies?

 

[Victory67]

Israel withdraws from a multi-billion dollar, multi-year investment in infrastructure.
All settlements are then abandoned within a given time frame.
The professional Islamic money makers then convince the WBJs to literally destroy the beautifully architected cities (aka settlements) and lob grenades into Israel.
Israel wants to retaliate but the professional Islamic money makers go to the UN and say Israeli Jews must withdraw to their 1938 Germany, Polish and Russian territories.....

This is where your post loses all relevancy.

 

[toastman]

Israel withdraws from a multi-billion dollar, multi-year investment in infrastructure.
All settlements are then abandoned within a given time frame.
The professional Islamic money makers then convince the WBJs to literally destroy the beautifully architected cities (aka settlements) and lob grenades into Israel.
Israel wants to retaliate but the professional Islamic money makers go to the UN and say Israeli Jews must withdraw to their 1938 Germany, Polish and Russian territories.....

This is where your post loses all relevancy.

But your OP had no relevancy all together

 

[Victory67]

But your OP had no relevancy all together

If that was true you wouldn't have commented on it, twice.

Unless you enjoy wasting your time.

 

[Billo_Really]

If peace talks with Palestine fail, should Israel just withdraw to the Separation Barrier while maintaining a military presence along the Jordanian border in the Jordan Valley?

If Israel does this they can claim before any criminal or other international court Palestine might take them before, that they have withdrawn from all Occupied Territories up to a point where security demands an Israeli presence until a final peace treaty is reached ..

(which does actually comply with UN resolution 242 which requires Israel to withdraw from "lands" Occupied since 1967 and for all states to recognize Israel within secure and defensable borders).

And many throughout the world would accept that reasoning, as only 8.5% of the West Bank would remain under Israel control, meaning 91.5% of Arab Palestine (the West Bank) and all of Gaza would be free to become an independent State of Palestine, and that's a pretty damn good deal in the absence of a formal peace treaty.

No, they need to withdraw from "ALL" occupied territories. Israel has no right to have a "security presence", on someone else's land. Israel's only option, is to get the **** off that land and stop violating international law.

All this security concern crap is a bunch of BS!

 

[Indeependent]

Israel withdraws from a multi-billion dollar, multi-year investment in infrastructure.
All settlements are then abandoned within a given time frame.
The professional Islamic money makers then convince the WBJs to literally destroy the beautifully architected cities (aka settlements) and lob grenades into Israel.
Israel wants to retaliate but the professional Islamic money makers go to the UN and say Israeli Jews must withdraw to their 1938 Germany, Polish and Russian territories.....

This is where your post loses all relevancy.

Not at all.
One artifact leads to the next which is proven by your constant irrelevant threads and postings.

 

[Kondor3]

No.

They would be fools if they did.

And the Israelis are no fools.

Unlike their Palestinian counterparts.

 

[toastman]

If peace talks with Palestine fail, should Israel just withdraw to the Separation Barrier while maintaining a military presence along the Jordanian border in the Jordan Valley?

If Israel does this they can claim before any criminal or other international court Palestine might take them before, that they have withdrawn from all Occupied Territories up to a point where security demands an Israeli presence until a final peace treaty is reached ..

(which does actually comply with UN resolution 242 which requires Israel to withdraw from "lands" Occupied since 1967 and for all states to recognize Israel within secure and defensable borders).

And many throughout the world would accept that reasoning, as only 8.5% of the West Bank would remain under Israel control, meaning 91.5% of Arab Palestine (the West Bank) and all of Gaza would be free to become an independent State of Palestine, and that's a pretty damn good deal in the absence of a formal peace treaty.

No, they need to withdraw from "ALL" occupied territories. Israel has no right to have a "security presence", on someone else's land. Israel's only option, is to get the **** off that land and stop violating international law.

All this security concern crap is a bunch of BS!

Oh, shut the **** up. Stop repeating the same drivel. Israel is only going to remove itself from the West Bank if Israel decides to do so . So please, stop trying to act like a tough guy you terrorist/jihad supporting piece of drek !

 

[aris2chat]

I think if Israel did this they would finally have the moral highground and many in the world would say "wow, nice job Israel. We didn't think you had it in you".

Israel isn't impressed with a bunch of 'attaboys'.

You never know. They might just surprise you.

If Israel was/is ready to take on Iran by itself, I don't think it cares if it has to take on the WB alone in any way it sees fit.
For Israel it is better to seek forgiveness after the fact than wait for permission.
Protection of Israel is first and foremost their concern, not who's toes (arms, legs, neck) they need to step on to achieve their security.
The only attaboy they need is from their citizens that are safe.

 

[Kondor3]

Israel isn't impressed with a bunch of 'attaboys'.

You never know. They might just surprise you.

If Israel was/is ready to take on Iran by itself, I don't think it cares if it has to take on the WB alone in any way it sees fit. For Israel it is better to seek forgiveness after the fact than wait for permission. Protection of Israel is first and foremost their concern, not who's toes (arms, legs, neck) they need to step on to achieve their security. The only attaboy they need is from their citizens that are safe.

Spot on.

 

[Billo_Really]

Oh, shut the **** up. Stop repeating the same drivel. Israel is only going to remove itself from the West Bank if Israel decides to do so . So please, stop trying to act like a tough guy you terrorist/jihad supporting piece of drek !

Hitler thought the same thing about Poland and we all know how that turned out.

How many more fucked up ideas you got?

I bet you think Matt Kemp should start?

You probably want to ghost-write his book, Mein Kemp?

 

[Indeependent]

Oh, shut the **** up. Stop repeating the same drivel. Israel is only going to remove itself from the West Bank if Israel decides to do so . So please, stop trying to act like a tough guy you terrorist/jihad supporting piece of drek !

Hitler thought the same thing about Poland and we all know how that turned out.

How many more fucked up ideas you got?

I bet you think Matt Kemp should start?

You probably want to ghost-write his book, Mein Kemp?

Hitler had to do SOMETHING to keep the Jews from killing all the European Goyim.
You're such a Jew hating idiot.
You hate Jews?
Fine...Don't be an idiot with a post relying on revisionist historical context.

 

[Billo_Really]

Hitler had to do SOMETHING to keep the Jews from killing all the European Goyim.
You're such a Jew hating idiot.
You hate Jews?
Fine...Don't be an idiot with a post relying on revisionist historical context.

Hitler was FOS when it came to his opinion of the jews.

And so is your opinion of me.