Should illegal aliens be deported?

[The Sage of Main Street]

Not only should we retroactively take away the citizenship from anchor babies but from their children, too. This must be about 10 million illegal voters by now.

Are you on the right wing? Why resort to socialism on a national basis, when capitalism will do?

Capitalism and Socialism Are Both Enemies of Democracy

Your solution is all about cheap labor for the plutocratic parasites, which will take jobs away from Americans. That includes the skilled workers. Not only will foreigners work for less, but any shortages the corporate blowhards whine about are the result of our unmotivating educational system, which they mandate.

 

[danielpalos]

Should illegals be deported? Yes, by definition of being here illegally.

That being said, there is a mess that needs to be cleaned up because of the lack of enforcement of immigration laws for many years.

Our laws are very inconsistent. People who are here illegally should not have access to public schools for example.

How many illegals attend public schools? Wouldn't they be children of refugees or legal immigrants, and children of illegal immigrants, born in the US?

I don't have that number since schools are not allowed to even ask the question. However there are millions of illegal immigrants in our country.

mostly adults who work, or spouses and refugees.

If they have refugee status, then they are here legally. Spouses of citizens can usually obtain legal status through marriage. Illegal immigrants often bring school age non-citizen children. They are the "dreamers" that we here so much about.

often bring or have children here?

 

[danielpalos]

Not only should we retroactively take away the citizenship from anchor babies but from their children, too. This must be about 10 million illegal voters by now.

Are you on the right wing? Why resort to socialism on a national basis, when capitalism will do?

Capitalism and Socialism Are Both Enemies of Democracy

Your solution is all about cheap labor for the plutocratic parasites, which will take jobs away from Americans. That includes the skilled workers. Not only will foreigners work for less, but any shortages the corporate blowhards whine about are the result of our unmotivating educational system, which they mandate.

democracy is a form of socialism. it is about merely using capitalism, for all of its worth.

a market friendly visa will end our illegal problem on a permanent basis and generate revenue at the same time. it could expire annually, and provide for work authorization.

 

[pismoe]

here you go CHARWIN !! Its a demonstration of tomato picking machine . ----------------- --- Tomato Harvest by Machine - Bing video --- so picking lettuce and tomaters are no big deal and easily replace your invading 'mexicans' from south of the border down 'mexico' way Charwin .

 

[Fang]

I think they should be deported. What about you?

Depends.

1. Criminals: YES.
2. If you just walked across the border last week: YES
3. If you've been living here with family for 5 years. NO

But there's a huge gray area between points 2 and 3. Certainly taxes are owed if none were paid.

 

[Unkotare]

Should illegals be deported? Yes, by definition of being here illegally.

That being said, there is a mess that needs to be cleaned up because of the lack of enforcement of immigration laws for many years.

Our laws are very inconsistent. People who are here illegally should not have access to public schools for example.

How many illegals attend public schools? ....

A lot.

yet, we can afford a War on Drugs. ...?

We can't afford to let drugs rob young people of their future, kill more and more Americans each year, and tear society apart for the sake of indulging some weak, selfish dope-heads.

 

[Unkotare]

Should illegals be deported? Yes, by definition of being here illegally.

That being said, there is a mess that needs to be cleaned up because of the lack of enforcement of immigration laws for many years.

Our laws are very inconsistent. People who are here illegally should not have access to public schools for example.

How many illegals attend public schools? Wouldn't they be children of refugees or legal immigrants, and children of illegal immigrants, born in the US?

I don't have that number since schools are not allowed to even ask the question. However there are millions of illegal immigrants in our country.

mostly adults who work, or spouses and refugees.

And many school-aged kids.

 

[JoeMoma]

Should illegals be deported? Yes, by definition of being here illegally.

That being said, there is a mess that needs to be cleaned up because of the lack of enforcement of immigration laws for many years.

Our laws are very inconsistent. People who are here illegally should not have access to public schools for example.

How many illegals attend public schools? Wouldn't they be children of refugees or legal immigrants, and children of illegal immigrants, born in the US?

I don't have that number since schools are not allowed to even ask the question. However there are millions of illegal immigrants in our country.

mostly adults who work, or spouses and refugees.

If they have refugee status, then they are here legally. Spouses of citizens can usually obtain legal status through marriage. Illegal immigrants often bring school age non-citizen children. They are the "dreamers" that we here so much about.

often bring or have children here?

Bring -- as in from outside the United states, so they are illegal immigrant children.
Or have -- I didn't use that phrase, but if "have" is intended to mean "born", children born in the United states are considered to be natural born citizens (some disagree....take it up with the courts, not me).

 

[danielpalos]

Should illegals be deported? Yes, by definition of being here illegally.

That being said, there is a mess that needs to be cleaned up because of the lack of enforcement of immigration laws for many years.

Our laws are very inconsistent. People who are here illegally should not have access to public schools for example.

How many illegals attend public schools? ....

A lot.

yet, we can afford a War on Drugs. ...?

We can't afford to let drugs rob young people of their future, kill more and more Americans each year, and tear society apart for the sake of indulging some weak, selfish dope-heads.

only the right wing is willing to, "ditch capitalism" for their socialism on a national basis.

 

[Unkotare]

Should illegals be deported? Yes, by definition of being here illegally.

That being said, there is a mess that needs to be cleaned up because of the lack of enforcement of immigration laws for many years.

Our laws are very inconsistent. People who are here illegally should not have access to public schools for example.

How many illegals attend public schools? ....

A lot.

yet, we can afford a War on Drugs. ...?

We can't afford to let drugs rob young people of their future, kill more and more Americans each year, and tear society apart for the sake of indulging some weak, selfish dope-heads.

only the right wing is willing to, "ditch capitalism" for their socialism on a national basis.

Who are you quoting?

 

[Unkotare]

Should illegals be deported? Yes, by definition of being here illegally.

That being said, there is a mess that needs to be cleaned up because of the lack of enforcement of immigration laws for many years.

Our laws are very inconsistent. People who are here illegally should not have access to public schools for example.

The Supreme Court disagrees with you.

The Supreme court can be very stupid. This is one of the best examples of it being stupid.

Not really.

How is it not stupid? ...

Because public schools are not equipped to act as ICE agents. They have enough to do as it is. Illegal immigrants should not be in the country, but as long as they are, school-aged kids are better off being educated than pushing even more of them into street gangs that make cities more violent and unsafe. And it is not unreasonable to consider that some of these kids really are quite young and whatever comes of the adjudication of their immigration cases, it is unnecessary to crap on them out of spite.

 

[charwin95]

here you go CHARWIN !! Its a demonstration of tomato picking machine . ----------------- --- Tomato Harvest by Machine - Bing video --- so picking lettuce and tomaters are no big deal and easily replace your invading 'mexicans' from south of the border down 'mexico' way Charwin .

You are out of your league talking to me. Maybe it's very new to you because you are ignorant ------------- But those harvesting machines had existed a long time ago -------------- My friends here in California or Arizona never used those machines for a lot of reasons. Plus you still need people to sort, process and other associated farming process.
Are you or anybody here willing to take those jobs if they leave?
This is a very simple question that none of you can answer it-------- Except bunch of key board commandos.



How this garlic farm went from a labor shortage to over 150 people on its applicant waitlist

Farmers Brace For Labor Shortage Under New Immigration Policy

The biggest fresh garlic producer in the nation is giving its employees a hefty raise, reflecting the desperation of farmers to attract a dwindling number of farmworkers.

Christopher Ranch, which grows garlic on 5,000 acres in Gilroy, Calif., announced recently that it would hike pay for farmworkers from $11 an hour to $13 hour this year, or 18%, and then to $15 in 2018. That’s four years earlier than what’s required by California’s schedule for minimum wage increases.

Ken Christopher, vice president at Christopher Ranch, said the effect of the move was immediately obvious. At the end of last year, the farm was short 50 workers needed to help peel, package and roast garlic. Within two weeks of upping wages in January, applications flooded in. Now the company has a wait-list 150 people long.
“I knew it would help a little bit, but I had no idea that it would solve our labor problem,” Christopher said.

 

[charwin95]

here you go CHARWIN !! Its a demonstration of tomato picking machine . ----------------- --- Tomato Harvest by Machine - Bing video --- so picking lettuce and tomaters are no big deal and easily replace your invading 'mexicans' from south of the border down 'mexico' way Charwin .

You are just an old ignorant asshole. You don't know shit except your hatred.

 

[JoeMoma]

Should illegals be deported? Yes, by definition of being here illegally.

That being said, there is a mess that needs to be cleaned up because of the lack of enforcement of immigration laws for many years.

Our laws are very inconsistent. People who are here illegally should not have access to public schools for example.

The Supreme Court disagrees with you.

The Supreme court can be very stupid. This is one of the best examples of it being stupid.

Not really.

How is it not stupid? ...

Because public schools are not equipped to act as ICE agents. They have enough to do as it is. Illegal immigrants should not be in the country, but as long as they are, school-aged kids are better off being educated than pushing even more of them into street gangs that make cities more violent and unsafe. And it is not unreasonable to consider that some of these kids really are quite young and whatever comes of the adjudication of their immigration cases, it is unnecessary to crap on them out of spite.

Schools don't need to be equipped as ICE agents to not admit students not legally in the country. Copies of birth certificates and social security cards are kept on file for citizen students already. Legal noncitizens students should be able to provide appropriate paperwork to show they are here legally. Either we enforce our immigration laws or we don't. Giving illegal immigrants benifits for being here illegally is the opposite of enforcing the law. Many parents would not illegally immigrate to the United states with their children if word got around that they could not receive benifits such as public education. If we wish to stop people from coming here illegally, we need to remove the big red carpet of benifits that's enticing them to come illegally.

 

[pismoe]

here you go CHARWIN !! Its a demonstration of tomato picking machine . ----------------- --- Tomato Harvest by Machine - Bing video --- so picking lettuce and tomaters are no big deal and easily replace your invading 'mexicans' from south of the border down 'mexico' way Charwin .

You are just an old ignorant asshole. You don't know shit except your hatred.

------------------------------------------- [chuckle] , thanks Charwin .

 

[pismoe]

here you go CHARWIN !! Its a demonstration of tomato picking machine . ----------------- --- Tomato Harvest by Machine - Bing video --- so picking lettuce and tomaters are no big deal and easily replace your invading 'mexicans' from south of the border down 'mexico' way Charwin .

You are out of your league talking to me. Maybe it's very new to you because you are ignorant ------------- But those harvesting machines had existed a long time ago -------------- My friends here in California or Arizona never used those machines for a lot of reasons. Plus you still need people to sort, process and other associated farming process.
Are you or anybody here willing to take those jobs if they leave?
This is a very simple question that none of you can answer it-------- Except bunch of key board commandos.



How this garlic farm went from a labor shortage to over 150 people on its applicant waitlist

Farmers Brace For Labor Shortage Under New Immigration Policy

The biggest fresh garlic producer in the nation is giving its employees a hefty raise, reflecting the desperation of farmers to attract a dwindling number of farmworkers.

Christopher Ranch, which grows garlic on 5,000 acres in Gilroy, Calif., announced recently that it would hike pay for farmworkers from $11 an hour to $13 hour this year, or 18%, and then to $15 in 2018. That’s four years earlier than what’s required by California’s schedule for minimum wage increases.

Ken Christopher, vice president at Christopher Ranch, said the effect of the move was immediately obvious. At the end of last year, the farm was short 50 workers needed to help peel, package and roast garlic. Within two weeks of upping wages in January, applications flooded in. Now the company has a wait-list 150 people long.
“I knew it would help a little bit, but I had no idea that it would solve our labor problem,” Christopher said.

--------------------------------------------------------------------- well , feck your farmer freinds Charwin . I don't want to subsidize their labor of vegetable pickers just so they can make a good living Charwin !!

 

[Unkotare]

The Supreme Court disagrees with you.

The Supreme court can be very stupid. This is one of the best examples of it being stupid.

Not really.

How is it not stupid? ...

Because public schools are not equipped to act as ICE agents. They have enough to do as it is. Illegal immigrants should not be in the country, but as long as they are, school-aged kids are better off being educated than pushing even more of them into street gangs that make cities more violent and unsafe. And it is not unreasonable to consider that some of these kids really are quite young and whatever comes of the adjudication of their immigration cases, it is unnecessary to crap on them out of spite.

Schools don't need to be equipped as ICE agents to not admit students not legally in the country. ...

Wrong. Focus your spite somewhere else. The Supreme Court has been over this one.

Control the border and it's not an issue.

 

[JoeMoma]

The Supreme court can be very stupid. This is one of the best examples of it being stupid.

Not really.

How is it not stupid? ...

Because public schools are not equipped to act as ICE agents. They have enough to do as it is. Illegal immigrants should not be in the country, but as long as they are, school-aged kids are better off being educated than pushing even more of them into street gangs that make cities more violent and unsafe. And it is not unreasonable to consider that some of these kids really are quite young and whatever comes of the adjudication of their immigration cases, it is unnecessary to crap on them out of spite.

Schools don't need to be equipped as ICE agents to not admit students not legally in the country. ...

Wrong. Focus your spite somewhere else. The Supreme Court has been over this one.

Control the border and it's not an issue.

No spite here, just common sense.

 

[danielpalos]

First degrees should go first.

 

[Unkotare]

Not really.

How is it not stupid? ...

Because public schools are not equipped to act as ICE agents. They have enough to do as it is. Illegal immigrants should not be in the country, but as long as they are, school-aged kids are better off being educated than pushing even more of them into street gangs that make cities more violent and unsafe. And it is not unreasonable to consider that some of these kids really are quite young and whatever comes of the adjudication of their immigration cases, it is unnecessary to crap on them out of spite.

Schools don't need to be equipped as ICE agents to not admit students not legally in the country. ...

Wrong. Focus your spite somewhere else. The Supreme Court has been over this one.

Control the border and it's not an issue.

No spite here, just common sense.

No sign of any common sense.