Should Fleeing Motorcylists in High-Speed Chases Be Shot By Police ?

[Iceweasel]

Where's YOUR link ?

I asked if you even knew of a case. Here's your link:


Mental Health Disorders Center: Types, Symptoms, Treatments, Tests, and Causes
Mental Health Overview

Millions of Americans live with various types of mental illness and mental health problems, such as social anxiety, obsessive compulsive disorder, drug addiction, and personality disorders. Treatment options include medication and psychotherapy.

 

[protectionist]

He claims to be 68 but that has to be his IQ because nobody except a moron would go to such lengths to advocate executing a kid on a motorcycle for speeding. Protectionist is the kind of nut case we read about in the news.

So you would not advise a cop to shoot (and maybe "executing" to use your word) a criminal who pulls a gun on him ? So you'd rather have dead cops killed by criminals ? And you'd rather have dead motorists killed by a speeding, reckless motorcyclist ? Who would advocate THAT ? (other than a moron with an IQ of 68 maybe ?)

"Pulls a gun"? When did your hypothetical motorcyclist become a gun-wielding cop killer too?

I still haven't decided if I think you are really this stupid or not. Nah, You couldn't be. Could you ?

 

[protectionist]

Where's YOUR link ?

I asked if you even knew of a case. Here's your link:


Mental Health Disorders Center: Types, Symptoms, Treatments, Tests, and Causes
Mental Health Overview

Millions of Americans live with various types of mental illness and mental health problems, such as social anxiety, obsessive compulsive disorder, drug addiction, and personality disorders. Treatment options include medication and psychotherapy.

NO, that's NOT >> MY >> link. That has nothing to do with what I asked. MY link would be one that addresses the claim you made that "it's very rare for a speeding biker to kill anyone but himself, if he does crash".
And you have produced nothing in response. So once again > you got a link ? You got evidence ? You got a source ? You got anything ?

 

[protectionist]

Please tell us all what reason you had for shooting a gun from a moving car?

I would call that reckless and would say you endangered lives doing it.

Oh, and you still have not shown any evidence that the biker is going to harm anyone else. The chances are increased, but not to the point to allow execution for speeding.

I won't please do anything until you answer my question, which has been here since the OP >> ""Why should law abiding drivers have their lives jeopardized, when they could be protected just by having the cops blast this loon right off his vehicle, when the chase encounters an open road, free of traffic ?"

Obsessed much. They aren't ever going to shoot speeders, so drop it.

Never say never.

 

[protectionist]

I think a lot of us are annoyed by the crazy crotch-rocket riders. The issue is that most of us understand we do not execute people for being annoying.

And nobody said we did, which you already know, unless you're dumber than a box of rocks.

PS - Since my last post about 14 hours ago, you've posted here 12 times. Are you making this your full time job ?

You want them shot for speeding. That is pretty close to the same thing.

I answered your posts this morning. I posted 12 times? Hmm, thanks for noticing. Having a fan is always flattering. Oh, and all but one post was before 7am. I get up early and have no problem responding to stupid posts quickly.

No that's not why they should be shot either, so I guess you're in the same category as SJ (AKA "Stupid Jerk) ie. I can't quite decide if you're really this stupid or not, or just playing dumb. Bottom line > who cares, really.

As for "stupid", as long as you mention it, well we all know about the cigar (only Noomi's conversion to Islam could be dumber than puffing on a cigar), but in addition, here a piece of advice for you. Get rid of the moustache and goatee. By increasing the contrast of the top of your head with the bottom of it, they make you look more bald. Now all we have to hear is that you think being bald looks cool. HA HA HA. Are you a man or a goat ?

 

[protectionist]

Care to show that there is any factual evidence that someone will die unless the cops act??

Here are some FACTS for you.

There are 7 million motorcycles registered in the US. There were a little over 5,000 motorcycle related traffic fatalities in 2012.

So only 0.071% of motorcycles are involved in fatal traffic accidents. And since the overwhelming majority of those fatalities will be the motorcyclists themselves, the burden is on YOU to show the need to execute bikers for speeding.

1. Your post lacks a source link. )disqualified right there)

2. Even if it had one, we aren't compelled to accept ti as accurate. And even if we did accept its accuracy, I suspect that "accuracy" only pertains to those accidents where a motorcycle was damaged and identified, whereas in many, possibly most cases, the mc causes the accident, but never is involved physically, scooting off and leaving the wreckage behind, and thus not part of the statistic. Hey, nice try though. E for effort.

3. Burden is on me to show need to execute bikers for speeding ? Burden is on YOU to answer this question >> ""Why should law abiding drivers have their lives jeopardized, when they could be protected just by having the cops blast this loon right off his vehicle, when the chase encounters an open road, free of traffic ?"
(which you've been hiding from long enough)

Sorry, you have failed to show that these types of motorcycles present a clear danger that jeopardizes anyone's lives except on rare occasions.

You have shown no evidence that there is a serious danger. What you are doing is advocating executing someone for something that MIGHT happen.

You forgot one little item. Common sense. You may now return to idiotland.

PS - the next life that is jeopardized on a "rare occasion" by a motorcyclist, MAY BE YOURS. Then you can contemplate the importance of the word "rare".

Here's a few images of cars wrecked in crashes caused by motorcycles >>

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl...ct=rc&uact=3&dur=4387&page=8&start=99&ndsp=12

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl...act=rc&uact=3&dur=1512&page=1&start=0&ndsp=12

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl...act=rc&uact=3&dur=440&page=2&start=12&ndsp=16

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl...ct=rc&uact=3&dur=1369&page=2&start=12&ndsp=16

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl...ct=rc&uact=3&dur=2254&page=2&start=12&ndsp=16

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl...ct=rc&uact=3&dur=3548&page=3&start=28&ndsp=16

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl...ct=rc&uact=3&dur=2051&page=4&start=44&ndsp=16

https://www.google.com/search?q=cra...LrKqsQSfsYH4BA&ved=0CJQBELAE&biw=1024&bih=605

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl...ct=rc&uact=3&dur=3986&page=4&start=44&ndsp=16

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http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl...ct=rc&uact=3&dur=1426&page=8&start=99&ndsp=12

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl...act=rc&uact=3&dur=912&page=8&start=99&ndsp=12

 

[WinterBorn]

It most certainly IS an impending danger, and whether the motorcyclist intends to kill anyone or that he will kill someone without intent, is irrelevant. Will the innocent motorist who this loon kills, be brought back to life just because the motorcyclist didn't intend to kill ?

Got any evidence to back that up?

How many fatalities are caused by motorcycles in a given year? If you want the cops to start shooting bikers, you need to have some actual facts. So far you don't.

You want them to NOT shoot motorcyclists who endanger motorists. You want them to not shoot people who endanger other people. That would include criminals with a gun. So you want the cops to not shoot them ? You got any evidence about that ?

PS -since this last post was posted by you yesterday, we have no way of knowing if you have survived another day, puffing on that stupid cigar of yours, so if you're still alive, you should show up here and say so. And remember, this is your full time job, so don't be late.

PS - do you know how many people lives you are endangering, with that second hand smoke ?

First of all, you are making a huge leap from a speeding motorcyclist to felon with a gun. One is an actual and immediate danger. The other is not. You still have not shown any evidence that a speeding motorcyclist is an impending danger. It may increase the danger, but not to sufficient levels to allow execution by police.

As for my cigar, as one who has repeatedly complained that someone is of topic, this simply shows your hypocrisy.

As for my job, try looking at the number of posts and when they were posted. I do occasionally post at work. It is one of the perks of having a good job with computer access in the field.

As for my endangering anyone with my occasional cigar, you are really stretching to get something here. I mainly smoke them with other cigar smokers (usually outside) or when I am fishing. I have had no complaints. But feel free to continue to look for something to bring to the table other than facts.

Have you found any evidence that a speeding motorcyclist is a clear and impending danger? Have you found any evidence that the danger is certain? Because that is what is required to allow deadly force to be used.

 

[WinterBorn]

1. Your post lacks a source link. )disqualified right there)

2. Even if it had one, we aren't compelled to accept ti as accurate. And even if we did accept its accuracy, I suspect that "accuracy" only pertains to those accidents where a motorcycle was damaged and identified, whereas in many, possibly most cases, the mc causes the accident, but never is involved physically, scooting off and leaving the wreckage behind, and thus not part of the statistic. Hey, nice try though. E for effort.

3. Burden is on me to show need to execute bikers for speeding ? Burden is on YOU to answer this question >> ""Why should law abiding drivers have their lives jeopardized, when they could be protected just by having the cops blast this loon right off his vehicle, when the chase encounters an open road, free of traffic ?"
(which you've been hiding from long enough)

Sorry, you have failed to show that these types of motorcycles present a clear danger that jeopardizes anyone's lives except on rare occasions.

You have shown no evidence that there is a serious danger. What you are doing is advocating executing someone for something that MIGHT happen.

You forgot one little item. Common sense. You may now return to idiotland.

PS - the next life that is jeopardized on a "rare occasion" by a motorcyclist, MAY BE YOURS. Then you can contemplate the importance of the word "rare".

Here's a few images of cars wrecked in crashes caused by motorcycles >>

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https://www.google.com/search?q=cra...LrKqsQSfsYH4BA&ved=0CJQBELAE&biw=1024&bih=605

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The second link shows a badly damaged car. But there is no indication that a motorcycle was responsible for that damage. The site did have some interesting information:

from your second link:

"RURAL CRASH NUMBERS:

An animal in the road caused almost 9,000 crashes in rural areas.
1,676 wrecks resulted when drivers changed lanes in an unsafe manner.
More than 3,300 accidents occurred because of defective headlights.
Almost 4,000 rural crashes were the result of drivers disregarding stop signs, stoplights, and stop and go signals.
2,817 wrecks were caused by a distraction in the vehicle.
16,355 Texas accidents were ascribed to driver inattention.
21,637 rural crashes were attributed to drivers speeding.
Another over 13,000 wrecks were attributed to unsafe speeds under the speed limit.
More than 6,000 accidents resulted from drivers failing to stay in a single lane.
Over 10,000 rural crashes were caused by driver's failure to yield right-of-way.
4,183 wrecks occurred because drivers were fatigued or asleep at the wheel.
Almost 8.000 crashes resulted from flawed evasive action in a dangerous situation.
Slightly over 2,500 accidents resulted from following too closely.
And alcohol or drugs caused around 9.500 rural crashes.
1.226 wrecks consisted of wrong-way crashes.
And just over 2,000 accidents resulted from making an unsafe turn.



Our Houston crash injury attorneys note that it can be interesting to compare the numbers for URBAN CRASHES:

Wrecks caused by animals in the road go down to about 1.500.
But crashes caused by backing up unsafely go up from almost nothing to 5,931.
Changing lanes unsafely caused more than 17.000 urban crashes.
Nearly 20,000 wrecks resulted from disregarding stop signals.
Almost 60,000 accidents occurred because of driver inattention.
78,399 urban crashes resulted from speeding.
Around 54,000 wrecks resulted from failure to yield right-of-way.
Drivers following too closely caused 18,680 accidents.
Alcohol or drugs caused about 22,500 urban crashes.



The overwhelming numbers of Texas traffic accidents in 2011 reveal that the odds of having a wreck are high for all drivers. And motorcyclists experience about a 35 times greater risk of suffering a fatal accident than occupants of other vehicles."



I see nothing about a motorcycle rider causing deaths.

 

[WinterBorn]

1. Your post lacks a source link. )disqualified right there)

2. Even if it had one, we aren't compelled to accept ti as accurate. And even if we did accept its accuracy, I suspect that "accuracy" only pertains to those accidents where a motorcycle was damaged and identified, whereas in many, possibly most cases, the mc causes the accident, but never is involved physically, scooting off and leaving the wreckage behind, and thus not part of the statistic. Hey, nice try though. E for effort.

3. Burden is on me to show need to execute bikers for speeding ? Burden is on YOU to answer this question >> ""Why should law abiding drivers have their lives jeopardized, when they could be protected just by having the cops blast this loon right off his vehicle, when the chase encounters an open road, free of traffic ?"
(which you've been hiding from long enough)

Sorry, you have failed to show that these types of motorcycles present a clear danger that jeopardizes anyone's lives except on rare occasions.

You have shown no evidence that there is a serious danger. What you are doing is advocating executing someone for something that MIGHT happen.

You forgot one little item. Common sense. You may now return to idiotland.

PS - the next life that is jeopardized on a "rare occasion" by a motorcyclist, MAY BE YOURS. Then you can contemplate the importance of the word "rare".

Here's a few images of cars wrecked in crashes caused by motorcycles >>

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Google Image Result for http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/63/Jaws_of_Life.jpg

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Google Image Result for http://www.motorbikeinjury.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Common-motorcycle-accident-causes-300x225.jpg

Google Image Result for http://www.gtspirit.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/Lamborghini-Murcielago-Crashes-Into-Italian-BMW-Motorcycle-Showroom.jpg

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https://www.google.com/search?q=cra...LrKqsQSfsYH4BA&ved=0CJQBELAE&biw=1024&bih=605

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Your third link shows a rather nasty vehicle accident. But there is no indication that the accident was caused by a speeding motorcyclist.

But it did present some interesting data

from your third link:

"Most motorcycle accidents are caused by a motor vehicle, a car, truck or SUV making a left turn in front of a motorcyclist's right of way at an intersection. There are other accident scenarios involving motorcycles, but the left turning car is unfortunately the most common cause of motorcycle accidents and one that motorcyclists should be very aware of. Most often the accident is caused by the driver of the car or truck failing to see the oncoming motorcycle approaching. In almost half of all motorcycle accidents, the driver's view of the motorcycle is limited by glare or obstructed by other vehicles. In these cases, the motorcyclist has less than two seconds to successfully complete an evasive maneuver to avoid the collision!

According to the National Highway Transportation Safety Administration (NHTSA), based on data gathered in 2004 motorcyclists were nearly 34 times more likely to die, and 8 times more likely to be injured in a motor vehicle crash than were passenger car occupants. And motorcycle riders between the ages of 16 and 24 are most likely to be involved in a motorcycle crash."



So still no evidence that the speeding motorcycle rider presents imminent danger to a vehicle driver. But it does show that cars are killing bikers at an alarming rate.

 

[WinterBorn]

1. Your post lacks a source link. )disqualified right there)

2. Even if it had one, we aren't compelled to accept ti as accurate. And even if we did accept its accuracy, I suspect that "accuracy" only pertains to those accidents where a motorcycle was damaged and identified, whereas in many, possibly most cases, the mc causes the accident, but never is involved physically, scooting off and leaving the wreckage behind, and thus not part of the statistic. Hey, nice try though. E for effort.

3. Burden is on me to show need to execute bikers for speeding ? Burden is on YOU to answer this question >> ""Why should law abiding drivers have their lives jeopardized, when they could be protected just by having the cops blast this loon right off his vehicle, when the chase encounters an open road, free of traffic ?"
(which you've been hiding from long enough)

Sorry, you have failed to show that these types of motorcycles present a clear danger that jeopardizes anyone's lives except on rare occasions.

You have shown no evidence that there is a serious danger. What you are doing is advocating executing someone for something that MIGHT happen.

You forgot one little item. Common sense. You may now return to idiotland.

PS - the next life that is jeopardized on a "rare occasion" by a motorcyclist, MAY BE YOURS. Then you can contemplate the importance of the word "rare".

Here's a few images of cars wrecked in crashes caused by motorcycles >>

Google Image Result for http://www.stevenbarcuslaw.com/images/car%2520accident.jpg

Google Image Result for http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/63/Jaws_of_Life.jpg

Google Image Result for http://www.angellawpc.com/images/portland-car-accident-lawyer-3850.jpg

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Google Image Result for http://www.gtspirit.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/Lamborghini-Murcielago-Crashes-Into-Italian-BMW-Motorcycle-Showroom.jpg

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https://www.google.com/search?q=cra...LrKqsQSfsYH4BA&ved=0CJQBELAE&biw=1024&bih=605

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If you are going to debate (and I really wish you would), you might want to actually LOOK at the links you post.

Link #6 on your list does indeed show an accident. But it was someone losing control of a Lamborghini crashing into a line of parked motorcycles! Do you really think a sports car crashing into a line of parked motorcycles proves your point at all?? LMAO!!!

 

[Iceweasel]

Do you really think...

Apparently not.

 

[WinterBorn]

1. Your post lacks a source link. )disqualified right there)

2. Even if it had one, we aren't compelled to accept ti as accurate. And even if we did accept its accuracy, I suspect that "accuracy" only pertains to those accidents where a motorcycle was damaged and identified, whereas in many, possibly most cases, the mc causes the accident, but never is involved physically, scooting off and leaving the wreckage behind, and thus not part of the statistic. Hey, nice try though. E for effort.

3. Burden is on me to show need to execute bikers for speeding ? Burden is on YOU to answer this question >> ""Why should law abiding drivers have their lives jeopardized, when they could be protected just by having the cops blast this loon right off his vehicle, when the chase encounters an open road, free of traffic ?"
(which you've been hiding from long enough)

Sorry, you have failed to show that these types of motorcycles present a clear danger that jeopardizes anyone's lives except on rare occasions.

You have shown no evidence that there is a serious danger. What you are doing is advocating executing someone for something that MIGHT happen.

You forgot one little item. Common sense. You may now return to idiotland.

PS - the next life that is jeopardized on a "rare occasion" by a motorcyclist, MAY BE YOURS. Then you can contemplate the importance of the word "rare".

Here's a few images of cars wrecked in crashes caused by motorcycles >>

Google Image Result for http://www.stevenbarcuslaw.com/images/car%2520accident.jpg

Google Image Result for http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/63/Jaws_of_Life.jpg

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Thanks! The link above shows that passenger vehicles do harm to motorcyclists. But there is not one example of a motorcycle rider causing the death of the driver of a car or truck. In other words, your link proves MY point, not yours.

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https://www.google.com/search?q=cra...LrKqsQSfsYH4BA&ved=0CJQBELAE&biw=1024&bih=605

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[WinterBorn]

1. Your post lacks a source link. )disqualified right there)

2. Even if it had one, we aren't compelled to accept ti as accurate. And even if we did accept its accuracy, I suspect that "accuracy" only pertains to those accidents where a motorcycle was damaged and identified, whereas in many, possibly most cases, the mc causes the accident, but never is involved physically, scooting off and leaving the wreckage behind, and thus not part of the statistic. Hey, nice try though. E for effort.

3. Burden is on me to show need to execute bikers for speeding ? Burden is on YOU to answer this question >> ""Why should law abiding drivers have their lives jeopardized, when they could be protected just by having the cops blast this loon right off his vehicle, when the chase encounters an open road, free of traffic ?"
(which you've been hiding from long enough)

Sorry, you have failed to show that these types of motorcycles present a clear danger that jeopardizes anyone's lives except on rare occasions.

You have shown no evidence that there is a serious danger. What you are doing is advocating executing someone for something that MIGHT happen.

You forgot one little item. Common sense. You may now return to idiotland.

PS - the next life that is jeopardized on a "rare occasion" by a motorcyclist, MAY BE YOURS. Then you can contemplate the importance of the word "rare".

Here's a few images of cars wrecked in crashes caused by motorcycles >>

Google Image Result for http://www.stevenbarcuslaw.com/images/car%2520accident.jpg

Google Image Result for http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/63/Jaws_of_Life.jpg

Google Image Result for http://www.angellawpc.com/images/portland-car-accident-lawyer-3850.jpg

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https://www.google.com/search?q=cra...LrKqsQSfsYH4BA&ved=0CJQBELAE&biw=1024&bih=605

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Ok, I looked at all of your links.

Apparently my use of the term "rare" held up pretty well. You posted 14 links and not one single link showed a death of a car or truck driver caused by a speeding motorcyclist. Not one single example!

So with the vast resources of the internet, you were unable to find a single example of a fatality caused to a driver of a vehicle by a biker speeding.

Here is the common justification for the use of deadly force by law enforcement officers:

from: FAQ on Deadly Force | Las Vegas Review-Journal

"Q: When can police officers use deadly force?

A: Local and state law enforcement agencies create their own deadly force policies. Most follow a Justice Department policy that allows officers to use deadly force when there is “a reasonable belief that the subject of such force poses an imminent danger of death or serious physical injury to the officer or another person.”"


Now you have argued and bitched about these bikers. But you have been unable to show a single example that fits the criteria of "“a reasonable belief that the subject of such force poses an imminent danger of death or serious physical injury to the officer or another person.”.

But feel free to keep posting links. So far you have done more to prove my side of the argument.

Here is what is required of you, since you are the one advocating executing speeding bikers. You have to show that speeding motorcyclists present an imminent danger to the officer or another person. If you cannot do that your argument fails.

Provide the information or accept defeat.

 

[WinterBorn]

Do you really think...

Apparently not.

No, I do not think that he does. I would suggest that he try it.

 

[Iceweasel]

Do you really think...

Apparently not.

No, I do not think that he does. I would suggest that he try it.

Yes, and it will be a new exciting journey!

 

[WinterBorn]

And nobody said we did, which you already know, unless you're dumber than a box of rocks.

PS - Since my last post about 14 hours ago, you've posted here 12 times. Are you making this your full time job ?

You want them shot for speeding. That is pretty close to the same thing.

I answered your posts this morning. I posted 12 times? Hmm, thanks for noticing. Having a fan is always flattering. Oh, and all but one post was before 7am. I get up early and have no problem responding to stupid posts quickly.

No that's not why they should be shot either, so I guess you're in the same category as SJ (AKA "Stupid Jerk) ie. I can't quite decide if you're really this stupid or not, or just playing dumb. Bottom line > who cares, really.

As for "stupid", as long as you mention it, well we all know about the cigar (only Noomi's conversion to Islam could be dumber than puffing on a cigar), but in addition, here a piece of advice for you. Get rid of the moustache and goatee. By increasing the contrast of the top of your head with the bottom of it, they make you look more bald. Now all we have to hear is that you think being bald looks cool. HA HA HA. Are you a man or a goat ?

LMAO!!! Now you resort to fashion advice instead of addressing the topic?

Actually, my girlfriend is quite fond of my mustache and goatee. And I have been shaving my head since 1999. And I have had several women comment on the sexiness of my smooth head. I also prefer a shaven head for other reasons. So your advice is beyond ridiculous.

How about sticking to the topic? I'm still waiting for any evidence that a speeding motorcyclist is an imminent danger to anyone else.

 

[S.J.]

The only thing projectionist has proven with this thread is that he is a raving lunatic. I think somebody on a motorcycle must have startled him while he was text messaging instead of watching the road. Now he thinks they should all be executed. The guy is certifiable.

 

[KissMy]

Hell No - You can't shoot people for traffic violations. On top of that an officer would likely be shooting the suspect in the back & harming others on the road.

 

[Noomi]

Hell No - You can't shoot people for traffic violations. On top of that an officer would likely be shooting the suspect in the back & harming others on the road.

You have stated the obvious, yet it is the obvious that he just doesn't get.

 

[protectionist]

Hell No - You can't shoot people for traffic violations. On top of that an officer would likely be shooting the suspect in the back & harming others on the road.

You have stated the obvious, yet it is the obvious that he just doesn't get.

What he stated is idiocy, which has no relation to the OP or anythig I've said, and youe idiocy is even worse for agreeing with him.

1. The motorcyclist isn't being shot for "traffic violations"

2. The officer would not be "harming others on the road" (an imbecile notion which has been refuted repeatedly, every time I turn on this computer - does anybody bother to read the OP ?) Sheeeeshh!!

Once again >> "Why should law abiding drivers have their lives jeopardized, when they could be protected just by having the cops blast this loon right off his vehicle, when the chase encounters an open road, free of traffic ?" That means free of any population, on or off the road (as the video shows for almost all of the long distance of it)