Should Churches be forced to accomodate for homosexual weddings?

[RKMBrown]

A Black person is born black... True.

However, Blacks could marry. They were no laws against that.




However Blacks choosing to marry a white person (and vice versa) was a choice. Under "it's a choice, and therefore can be barred" then the Commonwealth of Virginia (and other States) were perfectly constitutional in restricting Civil Marriage based on race right?



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Race doesn't exist. Genetically there is only one race.

Homosexuality is a choice.

Are you saying their weren't law preventing people from Civilly Married based on the color of their skin (typically referred to as "race", i.e. Negro, Asian, Caucasian, etc...)?



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Saying race doesn't exist... saying sexual orientation is a choice, these guy's are just being POS authoritarian trolls. You want to live in their world you have to pay their toll or act and be just like them. No different than Obuma with his POS socialism. The only difference between these folks and the KKK / Nazis is the depth of their perversion. Rather than actively seeking to kill gays these homophobic authoritarians just want to punish gays.

 

[Seawytch]

I've said before I'm homophobic. Homosexuality is perverted people carrying on disgusting acts.

You got it right though, people decide to do the gay thing. Good job.

But you support civil marriage equality for "them" despite how you personally feel about the "choices" they make with other consenting adults, right?

 

[Redfish]

I've said before I'm homophobic. Homosexuality is perverted people carrying on disgusting acts.

You got it right though, people decide to do the gay thing. Good job.

But you support civil marriage equality for "them" despite how you personally feel about the "choices" they make with other consenting adults, right?

Sounds like he is a very compassionate person. He wants you to have equality in spite of your genetic flaws.

 

[Seawytch]

Nope, that argument holds no water. Blacks did not choose to be born black. Homosexuals choose to be a homosexual. Big difference there.

It matters not how they came to be homosexual. You are arguing that the sin of being black is not of their choice. And you are also arguing that the sin of being homosexual is by choice.

What you fail to realize, is that being black and being gay are not crimes. They are not sins except in your vile bigoted eyes.

Just because you have more power than they do, because you are in a bigger group, does not give you the right to use you power to piss on them.

I never said being black was a sin. Ya'll just want to compare blacks to homosexuals, and there is no comparison.

Anti-miscegenationists thought interracial marriage was a sin. Some people still do. Are you more "right" then them?

 

[Redfish]

It matters not how they came to be homosexual. You are arguing that the sin of being black is not of their choice. And you are also arguing that the sin of being homosexual is by choice.

What you fail to realize, is that being black and being gay are not crimes. They are not sins except in your vile bigoted eyes.

Just because you have more power than they do, because you are in a bigger group, does not give you the right to use you power to piss on them.

I never said being black was a sin. Ya'll just want to compare blacks to homosexuals, and there is no comparison.

Anti-miscegenationists thought interracial marriage was a sin. Some people still do. Are you more "right" then them?

Do you want the government to demand that all people believe what the government dictates that they should believe?

Have you read Orwell or Rand?

 

[Seawytch]

Race doesn't exist. Genetically there is only one race.

Homosexuality is a choice.

Closing your eyes and pretending there were not laws preventing people from marrying based on race, does not make them go away. ("Judicial activism" does ) You wish to use the law to deny me the right to civilly marry based on the gender of my consenting adult partner. How is that different from people wishing to deny civil marriage to people based on their race?

 

[Redfish]

Race doesn't exist. Genetically there is only one race.

Homosexuality is a choice.

Closing your eyes and pretending there were not laws preventing people from marrying based on race, does not make them go away. ("Judicial activism" does ) You wish to use the law to deny me the right to civilly marry based on the gender of my consenting adult partner. How is that different from people wishing to deny civil marriage to people based on their race?

no one has said that those laws did not exist. only that trying to compare race to sexual orientation is a false analogy

 

[Seawytch]

I never said being black was a sin. Ya'll just want to compare blacks to homosexuals, and there is no comparison.

Anti-miscegenationists thought interracial marriage was a sin. Some people still do. Are you more "right" then them?

Do you want the government to demand that all people believe what the government dictates that they should believe?

Have you read Orwell or Rand?

No...and if you read that into what I said, you need to expand your library.

 

[Seawytch]

Race doesn't exist. Genetically there is only one race.

Homosexuality is a choice.

Closing your eyes and pretending there were not laws preventing people from marrying based on race, does not make them go away. ("Judicial activism" does ) You wish to use the law to deny me the right to civilly marry based on the gender of my consenting adult partner. How is that different from people wishing to deny civil marriage to people based on their race?

no one has said that those laws did not exist. only that trying to compare race to sexual orientation is a false analogy

{Whew} Good thing nobody is...just comparing discrimination.

 

[RKMBrown]

Closing your eyes and pretending there were not laws preventing people from marrying based on race, does not make them go away. ("Judicial activism" does ) You wish to use the law to deny me the right to civilly marry based on the gender of my consenting adult partner. How is that different from people wishing to deny civil marriage to people based on their race?

no one has said that those laws did not exist. only that trying to compare race to sexual orientation is a false analogy

{Whew} Good thing nobody is...just comparing discrimination.

But discriminating against interracial marriage is different than discriminating against same sex marriage, it's different because blacks aren't gay. Please ignore the fact that both are discrimination against a minority group with regard to their right to marry. Please also ignore the fact that the same people discriminating against same sex marriage were the ones discriminating against interracial marriage. It's completely different ... yeah right. Both btw were justified from excerpts carefully selected from the same book, while simultaneously ignoring other sections of the same book. IOW their intolerance is a religious intolerance, which makes it even worse. Not like they are being intolerant of criminals... oh no... they are making out that gays are criminals based on the bible's teachings. IOW they are judging gays based on gay in-adherence to their intolerant view of their religion.

 

[Silhouette]

no one has said that those laws did not exist. only that trying to compare race to sexual orientation is a false analogy

{Whew} Good thing nobody is...just comparing discrimination.

Don't forget all the other laws regarding behavior that discriminate too. Don't forget the polygamists! You always leave them out Seawytch. Why do you leave out the polygamists? Why don't they get a "P" on the church of LGBT's logo? Y'all think they're too perverted or weird to saddle up to? Really? After you snuggle up to Harvey Milk, polygamy is "too weird"?

You know its coming legally if gay marriage manipulates the 14th. So why not advertise it now? Would that prove the slippery slope argument to all those middle democrat voters that have a slight lean towards the conservative? You know it's a fact.

We [and you too apparently] discriminate against BEHAVIORS we find repugnant every day. You may have heard of the penal and civil law systems. What are they about if not about human behaviors?....not race. Are all those laws discriminatory? Of course they are. And in fact, LGBTs discriminating against adding "P" to their logo is also discrimination. Apparently it's OK when you want it to be but not when you don't. I'll bet you're glad society discriminates against compulsive thieves and compulsive serial killers or people who have a "money-orientation" toward drilling offshore there in CA...

 

[Malamute]

Why not start with the mosques rather than the churches?

The same people who bend over backward to accomodate Islam, want to go after Christian churches -- why?

 

[RKMBrown]

no one has said that those laws did not exist. only that trying to compare race to sexual orientation is a false analogy

{Whew} Good thing nobody is...just comparing discrimination.

Don't forget all the other laws regarding behavior that discriminate too. Don't forget the polygamists! You always leave them out Seawytch. Why do you leave out the polygamists? Why don't they get a "P" on the church of LGBT's logo? Y'all think they're too perverted or weird to saddle up to? Really? After you snuggle up to Harvey Milk, polygamy is "too weird"?

You know its coming legally if gay marriage manipulates the 14th. So why not advertise it now? Would that prove the slippery slope argument to all those middle democrat voters that have a slight lean towards the conservative? You know it's a fact.

We [and you too apparently] discriminate against BEHAVIORS we find repugnant every day. You may have heard of the penal and civil law systems. What are they about if not about human behaviors?....not race. Are all those laws discriminatory? Of course they are. And in fact, LGBTs discriminating against adding "P" to their logo is also discrimination. Apparently it's OK when you want it to be but not when you don't. I'll bet you're glad society discriminates against compulsive thieves and compulsive serial killers or people who have a "money-orientation" toward drilling offshore there in CA...

What is wrong with polygamy? Other than it being legalized by tyranny of majority opinion, why can't 3 consenting adults get married as a group? Why do marriage groups have to be pairs of consenting adults of opposite sex?

 

[Silhouette]

{Whew} Good thing nobody is...just comparing discrimination.

Don't forget all the other laws regarding behavior that discriminate too. Don't forget the polygamists! You always leave them out Seawytch. Why do you leave out the polygamists? Why don't they get a "P" on the church of LGBT's logo? Y'all think they're too perverted or weird to saddle up to? Really? After you snuggle up to Harvey Milk, polygamy is "too weird"?

You know its coming legally if gay marriage manipulates the 14th. So why not advertise it now? Would that prove the slippery slope argument to all those middle democrat voters that have a slight lean towards the conservative? You know it's a fact.

We [and you too apparently] discriminate against BEHAVIORS we find repugnant every day. You may have heard of the penal and civil law systems. What are they about if not about human behaviors?....not race. Are all those laws discriminatory? Of course they are. And in fact, LGBTs discriminating against adding "P" to their logo is also discrimination. Apparently it's OK when you want it to be but not when you don't. I'll bet you're glad society discriminates against compulsive thieves and compulsive serial killers or people who have a "money-orientation" toward drilling offshore there in CA...

What is wrong with polygamy? Why is wrong with it? Why can't 3 consenting adults get married as a group? Why do marriage groups have to be pairs of consenting adults of opposite sex?

I think you're making my point, right?

 

[RKMBrown]

Don't forget all the other laws regarding behavior that discriminate too. Don't forget the polygamists! You always leave them out Seawytch. Why do you leave out the polygamists? Why don't they get a "P" on the church of LGBT's logo? Y'all think they're too perverted or weird to saddle up to? Really? After you snuggle up to Harvey Milk, polygamy is "too weird"?

You know its coming legally if gay marriage manipulates the 14th. So why not advertise it now? Would that prove the slippery slope argument to all those middle democrat voters that have a slight lean towards the conservative? You know it's a fact.

We [and you too apparently] discriminate against BEHAVIORS we find repugnant every day. You may have heard of the penal and civil law systems. What are they about if not about human behaviors?....not race. Are all those laws discriminatory? Of course they are. And in fact, LGBTs discriminating against adding "P" to their logo is also discrimination. Apparently it's OK when you want it to be but not when you don't. I'll bet you're glad society discriminates against compulsive thieves and compulsive serial killers or people who have a "money-orientation" toward drilling offshore there in CA...

What is wrong with polygamy? Why is wrong with it? Why can't 3 consenting adults get married as a group? Why do marriage groups have to be pairs of consenting adults of opposite sex?

I think you're making my point, right?

Or you are making my point. You have yet to state your opinion on polygamy.

I find it hilarious that we see single men going out and engaging in sex with multiple women as normal, or even married men cheating on their wives with other women as normal, but marrying two women at the same time, yeah that's seen as vile behavior. Nutz.

Just to add.. just because someone is the victim of a authoritarian majority, does not mean they won't be willing to jump on the bandwagon to be the cause of others being the victim of authoritarian majority. Hypocrites are in all groups.

 

[Silhouette]

Or you are making my point. You have yet to state your opinion on polygamy.

I find it hilarious that we see single men going out and engaging in sex with multiple women as normal, or even married men cheating on their wives with other women as normal, but marrying two women at the same time, yeah that's seen as vile behavior. Nutz.

Just to add.. just because someone is the victim of a authoritarian majority, does not mean they won't be willing to jump on the bandwagon to be the cause of others being the victim of authoritarian majority. Hypocrites are in all groups.

So why won't the LGBT label bear the letter "P" also? That's not just one or two random people being bigoted towards polygamy-behavioralists. It's the entire culture of the church of LGBT refusing to include polygamists officially to their brand.

You know, the same group that whines all day and night about "haters" and "bigots" and "discrimination" against their behaviors...which IMHO are far more repugnant by leaps and bounds than heteros engaging in polygamy. At least those people understand what reproductive organs are meant for, and the digestive tract, and they use both appropriately. That's far more sane than what LGBTs try to do...pretending their members each of the opposite gender [one butch, one femme] but mentally not being capable of making that final step out of the closet... "lesbians" using strapon penises and gays men using the anus as an artificial vagina.. uh...hello?!

These are the folks saying "we don't want the weird brand of polygamy"???...

 

[Redfish]

Closing your eyes and pretending there were not laws preventing people from marrying based on race, does not make them go away. ("Judicial activism" does ) You wish to use the law to deny me the right to civilly marry based on the gender of my consenting adult partner. How is that different from people wishing to deny civil marriage to people based on their race?

no one has said that those laws did not exist. only that trying to compare race to sexual orientation is a false analogy

{Whew} Good thing nobody is...just comparing discrimination.

Is Joe being discriminated against when he is not allowed to marry his dog, or his mother, or his three cousins, or the twins who live next door?

face reality, your attempt at using race as an analogy for gay marriage fails every time. You have been called on it by me and many others, but yet you persist. Is that all you have?

 

[UllysesS.Archer]

Closing your eyes and pretending there were not laws preventing people from marrying based on race, does not make them go away. ("Judicial activism" does ) You wish to use the law to deny me the right to civilly marry based on the gender of my consenting adult partner. How is that different from people wishing to deny civil marriage to people based on their race?

no one has said that those laws did not exist. only that trying to compare race to sexual orientation is a false analogy

{Whew} Good thing nobody is...just comparing discrimination.

So where is the line? Where does the discrimination begin and end?

 

[Synthaholic]

Should Churches be forced to accomodate for homosexual weddings?


No. Of course not.

But you should be forced to take spelling lessons.

 

[Redfish]

{Whew} Good thing nobody is...just comparing discrimination.

Don't forget all the other laws regarding behavior that discriminate too. Don't forget the polygamists! You always leave them out Seawytch. Why do you leave out the polygamists? Why don't they get a "P" on the church of LGBT's logo? Y'all think they're too perverted or weird to saddle up to? Really? After you snuggle up to Harvey Milk, polygamy is "too weird"?

You know its coming legally if gay marriage manipulates the 14th. So why not advertise it now? Would that prove the slippery slope argument to all those middle democrat voters that have a slight lean towards the conservative? You know it's a fact.

We [and you too apparently] discriminate against BEHAVIORS we find repugnant every day. You may have heard of the penal and civil law systems. What are they about if not about human behaviors?....not race. Are all those laws discriminatory? Of course they are. And in fact, LGBTs discriminating against adding "P" to their logo is also discrimination. Apparently it's OK when you want it to be but not when you don't. I'll bet you're glad society discriminates against compulsive thieves and compulsive serial killers or people who have a "money-orientation" toward drilling offshore there in CA...

What is wrong with polygamy? Other than it being legalized by tyranny of majority opinion, why can't 3 consenting adults get married as a group? Why do marriage groups have to be pairs of consenting adults of opposite sex?

If you have to ask that, then you are too stupid to participate in this discussion.