Should Churches be forced to accomodate for homosexual weddings?

[Where_r_my_Keys]

... the fact that gays are getting married and their isn't a single ******* thing you can do about it.

Marriage is the Joining of One Man and One Woman.

Which is true in all 50 states. In addition it is the joining of one man/one man, and one woman/one woman in 37 of those 50.


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Marriage is the Joining of One Man and One Woman.

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

You calling anyone delusional is as rich as Croesus. You insist that your opinion on every matter is fact when in reality it is nothing more then your subjective opinion. You gas on endlessly about relativism while simultaneously being the biggest relativist on this site. Pretend all you wish but not a single church has been forced to marry any couple against their wishes. Not one! Stomping your feet harder isn't going to change the fact that gays are getting married and their isn't a single ******* thing you can do about it. Cue your tell in 3...2...1...

Would someone else go through the above drivel and find, then highlight any aspect of it that in ANY WAY engages the argument?

For your edification I will repost the argument below:

"In 1995, not a single homosexual had demanded to be accepted for marriage, while applying for marriage with a person of their own gender.

So, using your reasoning, there's no reason for homosexuals to be demanding such. Despite their chronic demand for such... even as we speak.

What's more, using your reasoning, there was no reason for people in 1995, to see "Don't Ask Don't Tell" as a Slippery Slope, setting up the Advocacy to Normalize Sexual Abnormality, tearing down essential cultural standards, which guard societal viability. Yet, Don't Ask, Don't Tell did in fact lead the culture down the slippery slope to the irrational precipice, where men claim 'the right' to interject themselves into an institution essential to civilization, despite their being wholly unsuited for such.

Again Reader, another member of the Homo-Cult comes to foment irrational notions, defying reality in their on-going battle with D E L U S I O N . . ."

 

[mdk]

Keys thinks spamming will somehow bend reality to his will. Too funny.

 

[Delta4Embassy]

... the fact that gays are getting married and their isn't a single ******* thing you can do about it.

Marriage is the Joining of One Man and One Woman.

Gays are presently getting married in 37 states ...

Marriage, is the Joining of One Man and One Woman.

Marriage, as defined and used by religion, is the giving to a man a woman from another family to cement a relationship bond. Had nothing to do with love, and even in the Bible with Adam and Eve was not about mutual desire or love but the woman being given to the man as a kind of servant or gift.

Marriage as an expression of love did not come from religion.

 

[daws101]

... the fact that gays are getting married and their isn't a single ******* thing you can do about it.

Marriage is the Joining of One Man and One Woman.

not always another arbitrary rule by religion.

 

[daws101]

... the fact that gays are getting married and their isn't a single ******* thing you can do about it.

Marriage is the Joining of One Man and One Woman.

Gays are presently getting married in 37 states ...

Marriage, is the Joining of One Man and One Woman.

Marriage, as defined and used by religion, is the giving to a man a woman from another family to cement a relationship bond. Had nothing to do with love, and even in the Bible with Adam and Eve was not about mutual desire or love but the woman being given to the man as a kind of servant or gift.

Marriage as an expression of love did not come from religion.

adam and eve were never married ....adam had another girl friend before eve her name was Lillith.

 

[Delta4Embassy]

... the fact that gays are getting married and their isn't a single ******* thing you can do about it.

Marriage is the Joining of One Man and One Woman.

Gays are presently getting married in 37 states ...

Marriage, is the Joining of One Man and One Woman.

Marriage, as defined and used by religion, is the giving to a man a woman from another family to cement a relationship bond. Had nothing to do with love, and even in the Bible with Adam and Eve was not about mutual desire or love but the woman being given to the man as a kind of servant or gift.

Marriage as an expression of love did not come from religion.

adam and eve were never married ....adam had another girl friend before eve her name was Lillith.

Lilith and Eve were indeed best described as Adam's concubines, 'someone kept around to provide sexual gratification.'

 

[daws101]

Marriage is the Joining of One Man and One Woman.

Gays are presently getting married in 37 states ...

Marriage, is the Joining of One Man and One Woman.

Marriage, as defined and used by religion, is the giving to a man a woman from another family to cement a relationship bond. Had nothing to do with love, and even in the Bible with Adam and Eve was not about mutual desire or love but the woman being given to the man as a kind of servant or gift.

Marriage as an expression of love did not come from religion.

adam and eve were never married ....adam had another girl friend before eve her name was Lillith.

Lilith and Eve were indeed best described as Adam's concubines, 'someone kept around to provide sexual gratification.'

doing sheep and goats would get old after awhile!

 

[Silhouette]

It is real that actual Christians have been "legally" forced to participate enabling "gay weddings". I'll ask again, specifically how are individual Christians different from a congregation of them?

You're asking those incapable of objective thought to find truth, which can only be accessed through objective reason.

..lol... good point. But the question remains unanswered. I'd like the LGBT faithful here to answer the question in bold above.

According to Windsor 2013 which awarded E. Windsor money based on the Finding that was avered 56 times in their 26 page Opinion that said "the power on this question of gay marriage law rests with the states and always has since our nation's founding", only 11 states had legal gay marriage according to state-enacted laws as of Windsor 2013's publication.

No lower court may usurp SCOTUS's finding from underneath on a specific Finding of law. Therefore, the only states where gay marriage is legal is in those states who themselves enacted it by due process. I think that number hovers around 15 in present time. That means 35 states do not have legal gay marriage; and never have. Lower federal circuit judges aren't allowed to "make up the law on the fly" in defiance of SCOTUS.

 

[daws101]

It is real that actual Christians have been "legally" forced to participate enabling "gay weddings". I'll ask again, specifically how are individual Christians different from a congregation of them?

You're asking those incapable of objective thought to find truth, which can only be accessed through objective reason.

..lol... good point. But the question remains unanswered. I'd like the LGBT faithful here to answer the question in bold above.

why? that's a meaningless question.

 

[Silhouette]

It is real that actual Christians have been "legally" forced to participate enabling "gay weddings". I'll ask again, specifically how are individual Christians different from a congregation of them?

You're asking those incapable of objective thought to find truth, which can only be accessed through objective reason.

..lol... good point. But the question remains unanswered. I'd like the LGBT faithful here to answer the question in bold above.

why? that's a meaningless question.

No daws, the question is the crux of everything we're debating here. You're refusal to answer it does have meaning however....

To correct a falsehood posted earlier:

According to Windsor 2013 which awarded E. Windsor money based on the Finding that was avered 56 times in their 26 page Opinion that said "the power on this question of gay marriage law rests with the states and always has since our nation's founding", only 11 states had legal gay marriage according to state-enacted laws as of Windsor 2013's publication.

No lower court may usurp SCOTUS's finding from underneath on a specific Finding of law. Therefore, the only states where gay marriage is legal is in those states who themselves enacted it by due process. I think that number hovers around 15 in present time. That means 35 states do not have legal gay marriage; and never have.

Lower federal circuit judges aren't allowed to "make up the law on the fly" in defiance of SCOTUS.

 

[mdk]

Sil, your question was already answered. You didn't like the answer so your ignored it entirely. Your idea of what constitutes a church isn't supported by a law in this country. Individual members of a church are not churches themselves. Not by any legal definition or standard. You only what that to be the standard so you can lie about how churches are being forced to marry gay couples. They are not.

 

[daws101]

the 2 previous post are mutual masturbation by to raging homophobes

 

[daws101]

Nature s Homosexuality - Softpedia

Homosexuality, as natural as heterosexual sex
When we say homosexuality is against nature, this is the biggest nonsense.

If we peek on nature, we'll see animal gays arising from any corner...

Homosexuality as an unnatural phenomenon can now be rejected scientifically.

From male killer whales that ride the dorsal fin of another male to female bonobos (dwarf chimpanzee) that rub their genitals together, the animal kingdom tolerates all kinds of lifestyles.

With more than 1,500 species displaying homosexuality, you can really have a chance to visualize the phenomenon!

And it has been confirmed from invertebrates (like crayfish and beetles) till the anthropoid (man like) apes.

The idea, however, is rarely discussed in the scientific community and is often dismissed as unnatural because it doesn't appear to benefit the larger cause of species continuation.

"I think to some extent people don't think it's important because we went through all this time period in sociobiology where everything had to be tied to reproduction and reproductive success," said Linda Wolfe, who heads the Department of Anthropology at East Carolina University.

"If it doesn't have [something to do] with reproduction it's not important."

However, species continuation may not always be the ultimate goal, as many animals, including humans, engage in sexual activities more than it's necessary for reproduction.

And as has been observed for tens of years that animals take drugs (see article bellow) and look for pleasure, why sex for pure pleasure would be so unnatural?

"You can make up all kinds of stories: Oh it's for dominance, it's for this, it's for that, but when it comes down to the bottom I think it's just for sexual pleasure," Wolfe told.

Conversely, some argue that homosexual sex could have a bigger natural cause than just pure ecstasy: namely evolutionary benefits.

Copulation could be used for alliance and protection among animals of the same sex.

In situations when a species is mostly bisexual, homosexual relationships permit an easier way to join a pack.

"In bonobos for instance, strict heterosexual individuals would not be able to make friends in the flock and thus never be able to breed," said Petter Bockman from University of Oslo.

"In some bird species that bond for life, homosexual pairs raise young. If they are females, a male may fertilize their eggs. If they are males, a solitary female may mate with them and deposit her eggs in their nest."

In Australian black swan, almost 25 % of the families are homosexual couples

 

[Silhouette]

Sil, your question was already answered. You didn't like the answer so your ignored it entirely. Your idea of what constitutes a church isn't supported by a law in this country. Individual members of a church are not churches themselves. Not by any legal definition or standard. You only what that to be the standard so you can lie about how churches are being forced to marry gay couples. They are not.

What is a church then mdk? Define it for me.

 

[daws101]

Sil, your question was already answered. You didn't like the answer so your ignored it entirely. Your idea of what constitutes a church isn't supported by a law in this country. Individual members of a church are not churches themselves. Not by any legal definition or standard. You only what that to be the standard so you can lie about how churches are being forced to marry gay couples. They are not.

What is a church then mdk? Define it for me.

a church is a place people go to worship god all other consideration are self-serving

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

the 2 previous post are mutual masturbation by to raging homophobes

Absolutely Fascinating.

Pure, unadulterated, unbridled, D E L U S I O N . . .

 

[mdk]

Sil, your question was already answered. You didn't like the answer so your ignored it entirely. Your idea of what constitutes a church isn't supported by a law in this country. Individual members of a church are not churches themselves. Not by any legal definition or standard. You only what that to be the standard so you can lie about how churches are being forced to marry gay couples. They are not.

What is a church then mdk? Define it for me.

The law already defines what is a church Sil. Your imagination...not so much. The only definition you'll accept is one that supports your anti-gay narrative and your definition doesn't have any legal support. Get over it, people are not churches in this country. You can pretend they are all you wish but the rest of us are under no obligation to do so.

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

Sil, your question was already answered. You didn't like the answer so your ignored it entirely. Your idea of what constitutes a church isn't supported by a law in this country. Individual members of a church are not churches themselves. Not by any legal definition or standard. You only what that to be the standard so you can lie about how churches are being forced to marry gay couples. They are not.

What is a church then mdk? Define it for me.

a church is a place people go to worship god all other consideration are self-serving

LOL!

So the argument is regarding a building?

ROFLMNAO!

The delusion is STUNNING...

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

Sil, your question was already answered. You didn't like the answer so your ignored it entirely. Your idea of what constitutes a church isn't supported by a law in this country. Individual members of a church are not churches themselves. Not by any legal definition or standard. You only what that to be the standard so you can lie about how churches are being forced to marry gay couples. They are not.

What is a church then mdk? Define it for me.

The law already defines what is a church ...

OH! That's great. Please cite the legal definition of the Church.