Should adoptees be able to acquire their original birth certificates so they can search for their birth families

[Hafar1014]

Most states still seal original birth certificates form adoptees. Several US states allow adoptees access to their original birth certificates, but the specific laws and procedures vary. Ten states, including Alabama, Alaska, Colorado, Connecticut, Kansas, Maine, New Hampshire, New York, Oregon, and Rhode Island, offer adoptees unrestricted access. I was an expert witness testifying in NJ which has opened its records for adoptees.

Fighting this was the Catholic Church, the ACLU, adoption lawyers, anti abortion groups, and the Mormons.
For open records was NJ Care a coalition of adoptees and birth mothers. We fought a 32 year battle and beat them at every hearing. I was in the fight for 15 years.

The Oregon Supreme Court ruled there is no right of privacy in adoption. One argument is birth mother privacy assuming they dont want to be known after they surrender their child. There is no law that supports this and often social workers will make this false claim. Research shows 93% want to be found by the children they gave away and in many cases were manipulated to give up at a time when they were vulnerable.

The UN treaty of the child states every human being has right to know their ethnic history.

Further my research shows that infants a day old can make long term memory. When premature maternal separation occurs the infant records a preverbal trauma memory for life that will alter development. We remember out=r mothers of origin and most of us long to find her again. We should have that right

 

[saveliberty]

More adoptees are hurt by reunions. You want to know your ancestry? Have your DNA tested.

 

[Zincwarrior]

Yes .

 

[Hafar1014]

More adoptees are hurt by reunions. You want to know your ancestry? Have your DNA tested.

False I have mediated over 30 reunions and they heal create closure and allow mothers and adoptees to move forward. How many have you mediated? I helped adoptees search for 15 years. What have you done

 

[Dekster]

Only if the biological mother consents.

 

[Hafar1014]

Only if the biological mother consents.

Why The bio mother has no say in me in knowing who she is. There is no right of privacy in adoption.

Oregon Court of Appeals ( upheld by the SC)
Neither a birth nor an adoption may be carried out in the absolute cloak of secrecy that may surround a contraception or the early termination of a pregnancy. A birth is an event that requires the generation of an accurate vital record that preserves certain data, including the name of the birth mother. That the state has a legitimate interest in preserving such data is not disputed here. We recognize that a birth mother may well have a legitimate interest in keeping secret the circumstances of a birth that is followed by an adoption and also that an adoptee may have a legitimate interest in discovering the identity of his or her birth mother. Legitimate interests, however, do not necessarily equate with fundamental rights. The state may make policy choices to accommodate such competing interests, just as the state has done with the passage of Measure 58. We conclude that the state legitimately may choose to disseminate such data to the child whose birth is recorded on such a birth certificate without infringing on any fundamental right to privacy of the birth mother who does not desire contact with the child.


A birth mother may refuse physical contact but not secrecy of her identify. 93% of birth mothers want to be found Pew Poll

 

[fncceo]

There’s most likely good reasons for them not wanting to be tracked down.

 

[Hafar1014]

There’s most likely good reasons for them not wanting to be tracked down.

Like what. Why would a mother not want to be found by her baby that she bonded with and gave birth to. Bringing them together heals them both. I have conducted many searches and mediated many reunions and they create heling and closure.

 

[Dekster]

Why The bio mother has no say in me in knowing who she is. There is no right of privacy in adoption.

Oregon Court of Appeals ( upheld by the SC)
Neither a birth nor an adoption may be carried out in the absolute cloak of secrecy that may surround a contraception or the early termination of a pregnancy. A birth is an event that requires the generation of an accurate vital record that preserves certain data, including the name of the birth mother. That the state has a legitimate interest in preserving such data is not disputed here. We recognize that a birth mother may well have a legitimate interest in keeping secret the circumstances of a birth that is followed by an adoption and also that an adoptee may have a legitimate interest in discovering the identity of his or her birth mother. Legitimate interests, however, do not necessarily equate with fundamental rights. The state may make policy choices to accommodate such competing interests, just as the state has done with the passage of Measure 58. We conclude that the state legitimately may choose to disseminate such data to the child whose birth is recorded on such a birth certificate without infringing on any fundamental right to privacy of the birth mother who does not desire contact with the child.


A birth mother may refuse physical contact but not secrecy of her identify. 93% of birth mothers want to be found Pew Poll

Oregon state law does not control the whole nation. Unless the biological mother consents, I saw absolutely not.

 

[yidnar]

Most states still seal original birth certificates form adoptees. Several US states allow adoptees access to their original birth certificates, but the specific laws and procedures vary. Ten states, including Alabama, Alaska, Colorado, Connecticut, Kansas, Maine, New Hampshire, New York, Oregon, and Rhode Island, offer adoptees unrestricted access. I was an expert witness testifying in NJ which has opened its records for adoptees.

Fighting this was the Catholic Church, the ACLU, adoption lawyers, anti abortion groups, and the Mormons.
For open records was NJ Care a coalition of adoptees and birth mothers. We fought a 32 year battle and beat them at every hearing. I was in the fight for 15 years.

The Oregon Supreme Court ruled there is no right of privacy in adoption. One argument is birth mother privacy assuming they dont want to be known after they surrender their child. There is no law that supports this and often social workers will make this false claim. Research shows 93% want to be found by the children they gave away and in many cases were manipulated to give up at a time when they were vulnerable.

The UN treaty of the child states every human being has right to know their ethnic history.

Further my research shows that infants a day old can make long term memory. When premature maternal separation occurs the infant records a preverbal trauma memory for life that will alter development. We remember out=r mothers of origin and most of us long to find her again. We should have that right

once they are 18 yrs of age yes ..

 

[Hafar1014]

once they are 18 yrs of age yes ..

Oregon state law does not control the whole nation. Unless the biological mother consents, I saw absolutely not.

Yes it does because Sandra Day O'Connor refused to hear an appeal and affirmed the ruling on appeal to the SC. Its the law of the land.

 

[Foxfyre]

Most states still seal original birth certificates form adoptees. Several US states allow adoptees access to their original birth certificates, but the specific laws and procedures vary. Ten states, including Alabama, Alaska, Colorado, Connecticut, Kansas, Maine, New Hampshire, New York, Oregon, and Rhode Island, offer adoptees unrestricted access. I was an expert witness testifying in NJ which has opened its records for adoptees.

Fighting this was the Catholic Church, the ACLU, adoption lawyers, anti abortion groups, and the Mormons.
For open records was NJ Care a coalition of adoptees and birth mothers. We fought a 32 year battle and beat them at every hearing. I was in the fight for 15 years.

The Oregon Supreme Court ruled there is no right of privacy in adoption. One argument is birth mother privacy assuming they dont want to be known after they surrender their child. There is no law that supports this and often social workers will make this false claim. Research shows 93% want to be found by the children they gave away and in many cases were manipulated to give up at a time when they were vulnerable.

The UN treaty of the child states every human being has right to know their ethnic history.

Further my research shows that infants a day old can make long term memory. When premature maternal separation occurs the infant records a preverbal trauma memory for life that will alter development. We remember out=r mothers of origin and most of us long to find her again. We should have that right

The wishes of the birth parent(s) should be respected. Many do not ever want the child to know who they are.

And it should be up to the person's new parents as to what the child will be told re his/her adoption. If there is no reason for the child to know he/she is adopted, why complicate his/her life by making him/her realize his birth parent or parents gave him/her up? That can traumatize some children. Or create an unhealthy obsession to find the birth parents.

Yes some do figure it out. Most especially if they don't look like any other members of the family. But many also live their whole life happily never knowing that their family adopted them.

The only time the court might step in the very rare possibly life and death circumstances that a person needs to know the family medical history.

 

[Dekster]

Yes it does because Sandra Day O'Connor refused to hear an appeal and affirmed the ruling on appeal to the SC. Its the law of the land.

If it were the "law of the land" then your very first sentence wouldn't have been "Most states still seal original birth certificates form adoptees". Sorry. You are not getting your way just because of one state.

 

[fncceo]

Why would a mother not want to be found by her baby that she bonded with and gave birth to.

I can think of many reasons. Most of which don’t have anything to do with the baby.

You have to let people get on with their lives. It’s not all about you.

 

[fncceo]

Just as most fathers wouldn’t appreciate a long lost kid showing up in their doorstep years later looking to sort out all their perceived motional baggage from their adoption… I can think of very few mothers who wouldn’t similarly feel uncomfortable with such an imposition.

If you’re having problems because you were abandoned… you might want to sort that out with the adoptive parents that chose you.

 

[Hafar1014]

If it were the "law of the land" then your very first sentence wouldn't have been "Most states still seal original birth certificates form adoptees". Sorry. You are not getting your way just because of one state.

They have to sue and most cant afford that. The SC court upheld that birth mothers have no right to privacy and there is no law in any state that gives them that right. Its a matter of time when all states will lose this abusive practice. They cant stop adoptees from searching. DNA and search angles and people like me have found countless families and they are all grateful.

 

[Hafar1014]

I can think of many reasons. Most of which don’t have anything to do with the baby.

You have to let people get on with their lives. It’s not all about you.

Its not youre decision. Its a choice between mother and child and in 93% of the time they are glad to be together again. In my experience when I mediated reunions healing and closure were the result. How much first hand experience do you have

 

[Mack The Finger]

I tried to help a friend (the Drunk'n Jew) get a copy of his org birth certificate in PA like 35 years ago and they wouldn't give it to him.

They sent him one with his adopted name tho it was never changed legally.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Yes it does because Sandra Day O'Connor refused to hear an appeal and affirmed the ruling on appeal to the SC. Its the law of the land.

You do not understand upholding a state law does not apply nationwide. Don't be ignorant. You sound like a liberal.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

They have to sue and most cant afford that. The SC court upheld that birth mothers have no right to privacy and there is no law in any state that gives them that right. Its a matter of time when all states will lose this abusive practice. They cant stop adoptees from searching. DNA and search angles and people like me have found countless families and they are all grateful.

That is your opinion, and not the law as you previously claimed.