Shenandoah County (Virginia) School Board votes to restore the Confederate memorial names of schools ...

[JoeB131]

In a plantation with a hundred slaves, only the owner actually owned them. They were his property
Others including family, white overseers, craftsmen did not own them but benefitted from slavery
The whole southern economy was built on free labor

This is very true. But it was more than that.

A lot of white southerners didn't want to compete with freed blacks for wages. Others were genuinely afraid that freed blacks would seek revenge for slavery once freed, the revolt in Haiti and Nat Turner's rebellion fresh in their minds.

AFTER the war, when all the dire stuff didn't happen, Southerners realized they kind of did a shitty thing, and that's when all the "Lost Cause" mythology about "States Rights" and such started cropping up.

 

[rightwinger]

Did most Confederate Soldiers own slaves?
No they didn’t.

Did Confederate Soldiers vote to maintain slavery?
Yes they did

Did Confederate soldiers quickly pass Jim Crow Laws to ensure second class citizenship?
Yes they did

Did Confederate soldiers support terrorist activities to “keep negroes in their place”?
Yes they did

 

[rightwinger]

Others were genuinely afraid that freed blacks would seek revenge for slavery once freed, the revolt in Haiti and Nat Turner's rebellion fresh in their minds.

They honestly believed that freed slaves would run around raping white women.

More so, they feared that negroes would gain equal status as white men

 

[Mac-7]

Well, that's unlikely. People would have still immigrated here from other countries. One of my very dear friends is a Jamaican woman.

Without slavery in the New World black Africans would have remained in Africa

The black population in America would have been no greater than the arab population, or the Indonesian or afghan population prior to 1965

Which was basically zero

America would be a much more harmonious country today without black poverty and bitterness toward white people

IM2 Curried Goats , and Superbadbrutha would not be running around bleating about white privilege and panhandling for reparations

Whats not to like about that?

 

[Curried Goats]

Without slavery in the New World black Africans would have remained in Africa

The black population in America would have been no greater than the arab population, or the Indonesian or afghan population prior to 1965

Which was basically zero

America would be a much more harmonious country today without black poverty and bitterness toward white people

IM2 Curried Goats , and Superbadbrutha would not be running around bleating about white privilege and panhandling for reparations

Whats not to like about that?

That's stupid. White people have been fighting each other long before you had multi racial populations. You morons are failures of basic ******* history.

 

[Mac-7]

That's stupid. White people have been fighting each other long before you had multi racial populations. You morons are failures of basic ******* history.

Historically yes, the euros sharpened their spears fighting among themselves

So much so that they dominated the world for 500 years

But we have mellowed with age

You dont see France invading Germany, or Holland declaring war on Italy

White people, except for Russia, have gotten better

 

[Curried Goats]

Historically yes, the euros sharpened their spears fighting among themselves

So much so that they dominated the world for 500 years

But we have mellowed with age

You dont see France invading Germany, or Holland declaring war on Italy

White people, except for Russia, have gotten better

You've grown softer the less you've had to fight for. That's why whites all over are passively allowing themselves to be demographically replaced in their own countries.

 

[JoeB131]

Without slavery in the New World black Africans would have remained in Africa

If my Aunt had balls, she'd be my uncle.

America would be a much more harmonious country today without black poverty and bitterness toward white people

No, they just would have found someone else to exploit.

Seems to me that you're argument is, "I'm mad because black people resent me for bad shit other white people did."

You know instead of, "Hey, I know what we did was wrong, what can we do to make it right?"

 

[struth]

If my Aunt had balls, she'd be my uncle.



No, they just would have found someone else to exploit.

Seems to me that you're argument is, "I'm mad because black people resent me for bad shit other white people did."

You know instead of, "Hey, I know what we did was wrong, what can we do to make it right?"

Demklan members should certainly be asking that of themselves.

The gop freed the slaves and spent the next 100 plus years fighting the demklan and passing civil rights legislation

 

[JoeB131]

Demklan members should certainly be asking that of themselves.

The gop freed the slaves and spent the next 100 plus years fighting the demklan and passing civil rights legislation

Then why are the GOP the ones out there defending Confederate Flags and Confederate Monuments?

 

[struth]

Then why are the GOP the ones out there defending Confederate Flags and Confederate Monuments?

They aren’t. They however aren’t vandalizing them

 

[JoeB131]

They aren’t. They however aren’t vandalizing them

Um, this thread is about restoring Confederate names to schools black kids have to go to.

It's like making a Jewish Kid go to Heinrich Himmler High.

 

[struth]

Um, this thread is about restoring Confederate names to schools black kids have to go to.

It's like making a Jewish Kid go to Heinrich Himmler High.

Yes they are for having discussions on the issue, civilly not vandalizing and riots

 

[Mac-7]

If my Aunt had balls, she'd be my uncle.

Your answer us called whistling past the grave yard

Without slavery black natives could not have transported themselves from a jungle village in africa to Ellis Island in New York

There would have been few if any black people in America prior to 1965

You would have to be blind not to see that

 

[Mr Natural]

Without slavery black natives could not have transported themselves from a jungle village in africa to Ellis Island in New York

Maybe they were content with their lives in their jungle villages.

Ever think of that, asshole?

 

[Mac-7]

If my Aunt had balls, she'd be my uncle.



No, they just would have found someone else to exploit.

Seems to me that you're argument is, "I'm mad because black people resent me for bad shit other white people did."

You know instead of, "Hey, I know what we did was wrong, what can we do to make it right?"

Yes, probably East Euro’s and chinese

But not black Africans until after 1965

 

[rightwinger]

Your answer us called whistling past the grsve yard

Without slavery black natives could not have transported themselves from a jungle village in africa to Ellis Island in New York

There would have been few if any black people in America prior to 1965

You would have to be blind not to see that

The US needed labor

They did not force Chinese workers into slavery.
Blacks could have been offered a form of indentured servitude like other immigrants

 

[Mac-7]

Maybe they were content with their lives in their jungle villages.

Ever think of that, asshole?

Maybe

Yes, black Africans were a primitive people living Stone Age lives who had to be dragged from africa in chains

Ergo without slavery no black Americans today

Or at least very, very few

 

[Mac-7]

The US needed labor

They did not force Chinese workers into slavery.
Blacks could have been offered a form of indentured servitude like other immigrants

Stone Age savages as indentured servants?

You forget the standard lib meme that whites are racists

And in 1609 they were

So seven years of servitude and then freedom?

I dont think so

No one was going to treat africans as human beings with equal rights

It would be better to import white Christians from eastern europe or yellow heathens from china

 

[JoeB131]

Yes they are for having discussions on the issue, civilly not vandalizing and riots

Black people have been asking nicely for decades to take down these monuments and the cops to stop shooting their kids.

White people ONLY pay attention when you burn their stuff. Shouldn't be that way, but it is.