She could easily have punched the accelerator and dragged the officer hundreds of feet to his death

[OODA_Loop]

So you think cops should stand in front of loaded weapons? After all, it’s not dangerous unless they have ill intent.

Is there other intent when someone points a gun at a cop? No there isn’t.

A person in a car can have other intent. It’s not lethal until the vehicle is used as a weapon.

Good, at prima facie, had no ill intent at the outset of the encounter. He had passed in front of her car once. She told him she wasn’t mad. It was the second time by the front she used the car in a furtive manner.

 

[Marener]

Is there other intent when someone points at a gun a cop? No there isn’t.

A person in a car can have other intent. It’s not lethal until the vehicle is used a weapon.

Good, at prima facie, had no ill intent at the outset of the encounter. He had passed in front of her car once. She told him she wasn’t mad. It was the second time by the front she used the car in a furtive manner.

I don’t know. Cops point guns at citizens all the time. I guess that speaks to their ill intent.

People accidentally hit pedestrians, that does happen. Standing in front of a car makes that more likely.

Still a dumb idea to put oneself in danger, precipitating the opportunity to shoot someone.

 

[Couchpotato]

You supported Trump and Trump supported the rioters.

Is that how it works? Just because I agree with some of Trump's policies and actions doesnt tie me to everything he does or has done in the past. What kind of crazy ass shit is that?

You supported Obama. Therefore you supported him killing a US citizen without a trial. You supported Hillary therefore you supported the debacle in Libya to overthrown Quaddaffi which has lead to it being a haven for terrorist, has open slave markets etc etc which means you support all that as well. Right?

Both were political protests that went wildly sideways. Trump called his people patriots and excused their behavior. Trump called Good a terrorist.

Interfering with the duties of LEO isn't a protest. That's called obstruction.

Then Trump’s goons had the gall to go on TV and say that they’ll prosecute political violence no matter what side is doing it. As if we all were supposed to forget about his goons storming the Capitol.

Were any of these "goons" at the capital when the riot happened?

 

[OODA_Loop]

I don’t know. Cops point guns at citizens all the time. I guess that speaks to their ill intent.

Does a cop have the lawful ability to point a gun at someone when warranted?

What is the lawful situation where you can point a gun at a cop?

 

[OODA_Loop]

Still a dumb idea to put oneself in danger, precipitating the opportunity to shoot someone.

Cops put themselves in some danger or risk on practically every call.

The times they fire their service weapon is minuscule compared to the times they draw it.

Many cops go their entire career without ever firing their service weapon on duty.

 

[Marener]

Is that how it works? Just because I agree with some of Trump's policies and actions doesnt tie me to everything he does or has done in the past. What kind of crazy ass shit is that?

I mean, you voted for him after he tried to steal the 2020 election. That’s a very illegal and very unconstitutional act.

Let’s make an argument ad absurdum. A person wouldn’t vote for a pedophile, claiming they just liked their policies and it doesn’t mean they’re okay with raping kids.

There’s a limit to what you can get by with this argument.

You supported Obama. Therefore you supported him killing a US citizen without a trial. You supported Hillary therefore you supported the debacle in Libya to overthrown Quaddaffi which has lead to it being a haven for terrorist, has open slave markets etc etc which means you support all that as well. Right?

Qaddafi and Al Awlaki were both terrorists, whose actions were killing people, including our own soldiers.

That’s your comparison?

Interfering with the duties of LEO isn't a protest. That's called obstruction.

Were any of these "goons" at the capital when the riot happened?

Civil disobedience is long established as protest.

No, none of his goons were at the Capitol as far as I’m aware but it’s really not the point. The point is their denial of reality.

 

[Marener]

Cops put themselves in some danger or risk on practically every call.

The times they fire their service weapon is minuscule compared to the times they draw it.

Many cops go their entire career without ever firing their service weapon on duty.

Good cops know how to avoid killing citizens. First step is to minimize the risk of a life and death situation.

I get the feeling that ICE agents may be wanting to kill people.

 

[Darlo kittu]

Good cops know how to avoid killing citizens. First step is to minimize the risk of a life and death situation.

I get the feeling that ICE agents may be wanting to kill people.

Have no fear. Print this and actually do this. You will be fine

 

[OODA_Loop]

Good cops know how to avoid killing citizens. First step is to minimize the risk of a life and death situation.

I get the feeling that ICE agents may be wanting to kill people.

Did you glean that from the one death in their thousands of daily interactions most of which are high emotion encounters?

 

[Marener]

Did you glean that from the one death in their thousands of daily interactions most of which are high emotion encounters?

I glean that from the rhetoric coming from this administration, the excessive aggression coming from agents, the disrespect and virulent attacks launched at citizens by these unprofessional thugs, the lack of repercussions for any agent who acts illegally in pursuit of the agenda and the several shootings of people by ICE without justification where ICE lied and covered up the circumstances of the shootings.

 

[OODA_Loop]

I glean that from the rhetoric coming from this administration, the excessive aggression coming from agents, the disrespect and virulent attacks launched at citizens by these unprofessional thugs, the lack of repercussions for any agent who acts illegally in pursuit of the agenda and the several shootings of people by ICE without justification where ICE lied and covered up the circumstances of the shootings.

Your “gleaner” needs calibrating.

 

[Darlo kittu]

I glean that from the rhetoric coming from this administration, the excessive aggression coming from agents, the disrespect and virulent attacks launched at citizens by these unprofessional thugs, the lack of repercussions for any agent who acts illegally in pursuit of the agenda and the several shootings of people by ICE without justification where ICE lied and covered up the circumstances of the shootings.

Sorry to bust your bubble but......

 

[0311]

Her tires were clearly turned to the right. She clearly passed from his right to his left. He clearly turned his body to his left as he was firing. But I guess they see the car going straight into him as he heroically fired to save his life and the lives of the other guys. And I think it's possible that that's really what they see.

The alternate universe. There's nothing you can say to them.

The L.A. Times just published story about how ICE has a history of getting in front of moving vehicles.

Border Patrol's use of deadly force criticized in report

An independent review of U.S. Border Patrol shootings criticizes the agency for 'lack of diligence' in its investigations and suggests that agents' tactics sometimes create a pretext to open fire.

www.latimes.com

The Feds tried to suppress the story, it seems the report did NOT conform to their back story.

 

[Darlo kittu]

The L.A. Times just published story about how ICE has a history of getting in front of moving vehicles.

Border Patrol's use of deadly force criticized in report

An independent review of U.S. Border Patrol shootings criticizes the agency for 'lack of diligence' in its investigations and suggests that agents' tactics sometimes create a pretext to open fire.

www.latimes.com

The Feds tried to suppress the story, it seems the report did NOT conform to their back story.

However the thugs and links interfering with law enforcement are happy to block ICE vehicles

 

[0311]

Sorry to bust your bubble but......View attachment 1205327

Sorry, but DHS has firm and solid rules regarding firing into or at a moving vehicle, DO NOT DO IT!

 

[0311]

However the thugs and links interfering with law enforcement are happy to block ICE vehicles

Ms. Cook was NOT interfering in anything. Ms. Cook was NOT protesting ICE Thugs. She was complying ICE Thug orders to leave the area. Ms. Cook's car was turning AWAY from the ICE Thugs. The ICE Thug moved get in front of her vehicle, in violation of DHS regulations he fired into a moving vehicle.

 

[Marener]

Your “gleaner” needs calibrating.

Not really. Just because you can’t recognize authoritarian thugs doesn’t mean the rest of us can’t.

Or maybe you can recognize authoritarian thugs but you agree with their agenda.

 

[OODA_Loop]

Not really. Just because you can’t recognize authoritarian thugs doesn’t mean the rest of us can’t.

Or maybe you can recognize authoritarian thugs but you agree with their agenda.

I agree with their agenda.

It’s what I voted for.

Removing illegal aliens.

 

[Marener]

I agree with their agenda.

It’s what I voted for.

Removing illegal aliens.

So the ends justifies the means? Illegal detainments. Illegal arrests. Illegal use of force.

 

[justoffal]

People get dragged to death all the time, a very unpleasant way to go. The car lurched and in that split second he didn't know what she was thinking. He wasn't about to find out. Cops in front of cars with psychos at the wheel are very nervous people. Nuff said case closed.

The police officer only has a right to defend himself after he's dead.