Share The Wealth platform.

[O.R.I.O.N]

Capitalists and their cronies think its OK to steal others labor and benefit from it but not give them an equal payment for what they created all because we "signed a contract" which was little more than blackmail and a choice between starving or getting just enough money to not starve and not much else.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

History we can tell where you stand. Pure capitalism allowed to run wild. It would be even worse than it is now as far as rich/poor goes. That I will not stand for.

Whatcha gonna do about it o.n.i.o.n. ?

 

[History]

America isn't Laissez Faire Capitalism.. Besides that, there are things in place that limit the power of monopolies and such Capitalists that want to do such things..

 

[O.R.I.O.N]

Capitalism PERIOD is evil. Allowing it to run wild will only be worse for the poor. I have heard to libertarian drivel...its not new to me.

 

[History]

Capitalism promotes innovation and freedom.. Look what happened with Russia, they switched from Communism to Capitalism and made a come back..

 

[O.R.I.O.N]

I am not advocating communism.I would hardly say Russia has prospered.

 

[WinterBorn]

All of these "share the wealth" plans boil down to a couple of very simple concepts.

They involve limiting what some people are allowed to make. Whether their abilities or services are worth it is never the question.

They also involve taking money away from someone who did something to earn it, and giving it to someone who did nothing. What do those on the lower end do to earn the money?

 

[HelenaHandbag]

I am not advocating communism..

You are advocating thievery.

 

[WinterBorn]

"Share the wealth" = conservative talking point and staw man.

Straw man because no one advocated for "share" the wealth. You are creating a false and flimsy argument in order to tear it down.

This is what weaklings and the weak minded do, create straw men.


Try these on for size:

Level playing field.

Fair share.

A tax code that isn't rigged in favor of the super wealthy.

If you honestly believe the tax code isn't rigged to benefit the super wealthy, you are hopeless.

Normally I would agree with you. But the OP is demanding just that. He wants to institute Huey Long's "Share the Wealth" plans.

 

[kaz]

Nope, I asked what do you call it when it happens.

You made up the rest all by yourself. True, I don't believe any of the Rabid Right Wing Echo Chamber phony scandal of the last 5+ years, but supporting the statist of the Democratic side of Congress, meh, not so much.

Not sure what you're hallucinating, but my point is simple.

- You said that regulators are being bought off by regulatees.

- You advocate Democrats who want to grow government endlessly.

So think about it. If ... you believed that regulators are in the pocket of the people they are regulating ... then ... why would you advocate more government power? You would be advocating that corrupt regulators be given MORE power to help rather than hinder the people they are regulating.

Clearly, you don't believe that regulators are in the pocket of the regulatees because if you did the last thing you would do is give them more power. Seriously, you don't even get it?

The markets still need to be regulated. The solution isn't to throw the baby out with the bathwater because there are instances of problems.

The other way for corporations to fight regulations is to simply pump a lot of money into agitprop that convinces the populace that regulations are harmful.

Riigggghttt, there is a "baby" with government regulation. What is the "baby" you're referring to again? They are corrupt, inefficient and for sale to the highest bidder. I see why the thought of losing that would make you nervous...

 

[WinterBorn]

Share Our Wealth - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The bottom of your post tells all we need to tell about share the wealth. "Power comes from the barrel of a gun". Stealing what you don't earn from those that earn it. Want to create wealth? Turn off your computer, get off your ass and get a job and invest what you earn. Don't steal it from those with intelligence to create their own wealth and quit feeling sorry for yourself because nobody will give you their well earned wealth.

Working to make shit for rich people who don't give you your fair share. So its just merely taking what's owed to you.

How is it owed to you?

If a rich man builds a factory, buys materials with which to make something, and hires workers to work producing it, he has spent a huge sum to start his business. He has taken enormous risk. The line worker has spent days working.

To claim that the owner and the line worker both deserve equal shares is ludicrous.

 

[WinterBorn]

Obviously people in he 20/30's had more common sense than they do now. Long was extremely popular.

Most people on these forums are losers whose priority is to sound smart rather than to understand anything. they view it like a boxing rink where by insulting ideas of others they score points. In real life people are not as bad, but on the media it's the same as here.

Speaking of people "trying to sound smart..."


That would be "boxing ring" not "rink."


You have a "hockey rink" and an "ice skating rink," you even have a "curling rink."

Roller skating? In a "rink."

But when you box, it's done in a ring, the "squared circle."


Trying to sound smart indeed...

Would a "boxing rink" be where they play hockey?

 

[History]

The bottom of your post tells all we need to tell about share the wealth. "Power comes from the barrel of a gun". Stealing what you don't earn from those that earn it. Want to create wealth? Turn off your computer, get off your ass and get a job and invest what you earn. Don't steal it from those with intelligence to create their own wealth and quit feeling sorry for yourself because nobody will give you their well earned wealth.

Working to make shit for rich people who don't give you your fair share. So its just merely taking what's owed to you.

How is it owed to you?

If a rich man builds a factory, buys materials with which to make something, and hires workers to work producing it, he has spent a huge sum to start his business. He has taken enormous risk. The line worker has spent days working.

To claim that the owner and the line worker both deserve equal shares is ludicrous.

The hilarious thing about this, is the worker would have quit in a free society if he thought he was worth more to that employer.. But still, the worker signs the agreement and starts work at the job,,

 

[WinterBorn]

Long advocated free higher education and vocational training, pensions for the elderly, veterans benefits and health care, and a yearly stipend for all families earning less than one-third the national average income – enough for a home, an automobile, a radio, and the ordinary conveniences. Long also proposed shortening the work week and giving employees a month vacation to boost employment, along with greater government regulation of economic activity and production controls. He later proposed a debt moratorium to give struggling families time to pay their mortgages and other debts before losing their property to creditors.

I tell ya that's some horrible shit right there! Taking care of the elderly,making sure people can get a good education,making enough to own a home,car etc. Some horrible shit! OMG! The Horror!

Your problem is you are mistakenly judging this idea on it's intentions not it's viability or it's results.

Liberalitis at work.

And capitalism has led to the worst disparity between the rich and the poor.

Your problem is you are mistakenly judging this idea on it's intentions not it's viability or it's results.

Liberalitis at work.

Road to SERFDOM is paved by politicians with good intent...

Capitalism has led us straight to that...we are serfs and the capitalists are the slave masters.

Yes, the difference between the rich and the poor is huge. But look at the average standard of living in capitalist countries and it is far above what it is under socialist or communist governments.

And look at the poor in this country versus the poor around the world. Poor? They have food, shelter, and access to medical care. It is a far cry from the poor you will see in many other countries.

Just because the gap between the top & bottom is greater, does not mean the bottom is nearly as low as in other places. Nor does it mean theft should be made legal.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Capitalism PERIOD is evil. Allowing it to run wild will only be worse for the poor. I have heard to libertarian drivel...its not new to me.

Capitalism isn't evil. It has done more to help the poor than any other method to date.

 

[O.R.I.O.N]

I am not advocating communism..

You are advocating thievery.

That's exactly what capitalism is. Stealing labor to get things made and not paying the workers for it. We can split hairs all night long.

 

[O.R.I.O.N]

Capitalism PERIOD is evil. Allowing it to run wild will only be worse for the poor. I have heard to libertarian drivel...its not new to me.

Capitalism isn't evil. It has done more to help the poor than any other method to date.

That's why the gap between rich and poor continues to expand in capitalist countries?

 

[WinterBorn]

Capitalism PERIOD is evil. Allowing it to run wild will only be worse for the poor. I have heard to libertarian drivel...its not new to me.

Capitalism isn't evil. It has done more to help the poor than any other method to date.

That's why the gap between rich and poor continues to expand in capitalist countries?

That gap is the only place you can focus and try to anger the masses.

The truth is the bottom of the economic ladder in a capitalist nation is FAR better off than the same group in communist or socialist nations. There is a large gap, but the standard of living at the bottom is still pretty high.

And no other system allows people to rise up that ladder. No other system rewards hard work & creativity.

 

[WinterBorn]

I am not advocating communism..

You are advocating thievery.

That's exactly what capitalism is. Stealing labor to get things made and not paying the workers for it. We can split hairs all night long.

Are the workers producing for free? No, they are not.

You demand that those who risk the least get an equal share. That is theft.

If they learn skills that further their advancement, then they have received more than their pay.

 

[Meister]

You are advocating thievery.

That's exactly what capitalism is. Stealing labor to get things made and not paying the workers for it. We can split hairs all night long.

Are the workers producing for free? No, they are not.

You demand that those who risk the least get an equal share. That is theft.

If they learn skills that further their advancement, then they have received more than their pay.

Exactly, good post.