Serious Question For the Conservatives Here Who Voted For Donald

[dcbl]

Let me sum up your post in four words.

if you're looking for a summary, I don't give a fuck about this.

I want this SCOTUS appointment & the judicial appointments that are forthcoming

And I want lower business taxes

 

[Lewdog]

Something I never saw much of over the past year was discussion about Trump's blatant admissions of affairs with married women. I find this interesting, and it makes me wonder -- is adultery a conservative value?

Forgiveness is a Christian value. Especially since he's behaving himself at the moment...

Y'all didn't give a shit about Slick Willie's shenanigans while he was President, hell, most of my friends on the left and in the media have always pushed the narrative that we were creating a national incident over a blowjob.

Y'all didn't care that he lied about it.

Y'all didn't care about Obama's lies, nor did you care about Mrs Clinton's lies and malfeasance.

So no, I ain't fixin to get worked up over something my guy bragged about doing 20 - 40 years ago.

Serious answer.

Let me sum up your post in four words. "Bill did it too!" (Lame)

Are you saying he didn't?

I'm saying it isn't relevant to this argument... because it's not. Can I go kill someone and when the cops ask me about it, say, "Bush killed people in Iraq so I can do it too!"

 

[saveliberty]

Something I never saw much of over the past year was discussion about Trump's blatant admissions of affairs with married women. I find this interesting, and it makes me wonder -- is adultery a conservative value?

Hmm. Well, we understand the concept of forgiveness. You apparently don't.

I don't forgive sociopath scumbags. Never forget, never forgive sociopaths -- because if you do, they'll just do it again.

Interesting perspective sociopath scumbag. I forgive you and realize you will do it again.

 

[Lewdog]

And what's that hypocrisy?

Liberals claiming moral superiority.

I'm not a liberal, and this thread isn't about moral superiority. It's about the hypocrisy of saying you have morals and then ignoring it for political reasons.

so are you saying that Hillary is without sin as far as the bible goes? What makes her sins any better or worse than any other candidates.
Or maybe, Christians, or anyone that has belief in a religion should never vote?

Nothing. I didn't vote for her. That's why in my initial post I said people put aside their religious beliefs when it involves someone within their political party.

Religious or not adultery is immoral. And everyone knows it.

Ok, so show who I supported that committed adultery?

 

[SYTFE]

Something I never saw much of over the past year was discussion about Trump's blatant admissions of affairs with married women. I find this interesting, and it makes me wonder -- is adultery a conservative value?

For those who don't know what I'm talking about, here's Trump admitting to affairs in his book, The Art of the Comeback:

"If I told the real stories of my experiences with women, often seemingly very happily married and important women, this book would be a guaranteed best-seller."
​

He also said:

"I have too much respect for women in general, but if I did [write about my love life], the world would take serious notice. Beautiful, famous, successful, married — I've had them all, secretly, the world's biggest names..."
​

We also know that Donald began a sexual relationship with his second wife, Marla Maples, while he was still married to his first wife, Ivanka, in the months after she said he raped her.

We also know that Christian evangelists report being "very excited" about Trump's win.

Is this because adultery, affairs and sex outside of marriage are conservative values?

Ive been having sex with the same married woman for the last 25 years now. I have no shame in admitting this.

You are far, FAR more loyal to your wife than Trump apparently is.

If you cant give your wife enough respect not to cheat on her, maybe you picked the wrong woman in the first place. She certainly picked the wrong man.
but thinking about that, it has to be something other than sex that causes Trump to step out on his wives. His wives have all been beautiful, they are not the type of women you cheat on, they would be the type of woman you cheat with, if you were so inclined to be an ignorant disrespectful husband.

I agree. Personally I think it's the combination of being wealthy + being married to a beautiful woman that brings the women out of the woodwork. They probably pursued him in many situations. This is an unfortunate fact of life, the more money you have, the more romantic opportunity you have. And if you are married to a beautiful women -- other women will want to be with you. Women are a bit fucked up like that.

He simply took the opportunities that were available to him, rather than remaining faithful. But this does reveal a lot about his character.

Those of you who supported him need to take a long look in the mirror.

 

[dcbl]

Are you saying he didn't?

wow man, I didn't realize that you were everybody's whipping boy when I ran into you before, I said IDGAF

Acting like you're stupid or just obtuse is a great shtick for you, don't ever change.

 

[TemplarKormac]

See, that's where you're wrong. Your vote says, "This man's behavior is reprehensible and in direct conflict with my own morals, but I'm going to go ahead and push them aside because I'm a moral relativist." You are broadcasting to the world who YOU are as a person via your endorsement.

You make the mistake of attributing his values to me because I voted for him. You (presumably) voted for Hillary despite obvious breaches of the law, should I therefore assume that you support people who intentionally break the law? That's a lazy argument.

And you know it.

You are announcing to the world that your values are context-dependent, only applicable when you want them to be, and discard them when they become inconvenient.

My morals are context dependent? Just what were you doing when you posted this thread? Where are your morals outside of this discussion?

You are announcing to the world that your word is completely and utterly meaningless. You're admitting that you have ZERO conviction.

Are you willing to say that to anyone who voted for Hillary Clinton?

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

No it's not. A lot of us dont go to church we just know hypocrisy when we see it.
AndI'm seeing it right now.

And what's that hypocrisy?

Liberals claiming moral superiority.

I'm not a liberal, and this thread isn't about moral superiority. It's about the hypocrisy of saying you have morals and then ignoring it for political reasons.

So you're saying you have no morals?

Nope... never said anything like that. And that isn't what the thread is about. When I do chose who I vote for, I pick the person that best represents me, and that includes their morals. I voted Bernie... and he was the most honest candidate in the election... show me where he cheated on his wife.

Choosing socialism tells me you have no morals, religious or otherwise.

 

[Lewdog]

Are you saying he didn't?

wow man, I didn't realize that you were everybody's whipping boy when I ran into you before

Acting like you're stupid or just obtuse is a great shtick for you, don't ever change.

Is that quote from you? Because if you are going to talk shit to me, at least learn how to post correctly.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Liberals claiming moral superiority.

I'm not a liberal, and this thread isn't about moral superiority. It's about the hypocrisy of saying you have morals and then ignoring it for political reasons.

so are you saying that Hillary is without sin as far as the bible goes? What makes her sins any better or worse than any other candidates.
Or maybe, Christians, or anyone that has belief in a religion should never vote?

Nothing. I didn't vote for her. That's why in my initial post I said people put aside their religious beliefs when it involves someone within their political party.

Religious or not adultery is immoral. And everyone knows it.

Ok, so show who I supported that committed adultery?

You're a socialist. Not having morals comes with your political persuasion.

 

[SYTFE]

See, that's where you're wrong. Your vote says, "This man's behavior is reprehensible and in direct conflict with my own morals, but I'm going to go ahead and push them aside because I'm a moral relativist." You are broadcasting to the world who YOU are as a person via your endorsement.

You make the mistake of attributing his values to me because I voted for him. You (presumably) voted for Hillary despite obvious breaches of the law, should I therefore assume that you support people who intentionally break the law? That's a lazy argument.

And you know it.

You are announcing to the world that your values are context-dependent, only applicable when you want them to be, and discard them when they become inconvenient.

My morals are context dependent? Just what were you doing when you posted this thread?

You are announcing to the world that your word is completely and utterly meaningless. You're admitting that you have ZERO conviction.

Are you willing to say that to anyone who voted for Hillary Clinton?

There were NO "breaches of the law" dipshit. There were no convictions, and she wasn't found guilty of ANYTHING despite hearings and investigations. They were right wing witch hunts -- period.

Try again.

 

[Lewdog]

And what's that hypocrisy?

Liberals claiming moral superiority.

I'm not a liberal, and this thread isn't about moral superiority. It's about the hypocrisy of saying you have morals and then ignoring it for political reasons.

So you're saying you have no morals?

Nope... never said anything like that. And that isn't what the thread is about. When I do chose who I vote for, I pick the person that best represents me, and that includes their morals. I voted Bernie... and he was the most honest candidate in the election... show me where he cheated on his wife.

Choosing socialism tells me you have no morals, religious or otherwise.

And your post tells me you are a selfish dipshit hypocrite. Then again I really knew that.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Something I never saw much of over the past year was discussion about Trump's blatant admissions of affairs with married women. I find this interesting, and it makes me wonder -- is adultery a conservative value?

Hmm. Well, we understand the concept of forgiveness. You apparently don't.

I don't forgive sociopath scumbags. Never forget, never forgive sociopaths -- because if you do, they'll just do it again.

I don't forgive sociopath scumbags. Never forget, never forgive sociopaths -- because if you do, they'll just do it again.

We agree, no more Clintons.

 

[LeftofLeft]

Something I never saw much of over the past year was discussion about Trump's blatant admissions of affairs with married women. I find this interesting, and it makes me wonder -- is adultery a conservative value?

For those who don't know what I'm talking about, here's Trump admitting to affairs in his book, The Art of the Comeback:

"If I told the real stories of my experiences with women, often seemingly very happily married and important women, this book would be a guaranteed best-seller."
​

He also said:

"I have too much respect for women in general, but if I did [write about my love life], the world would take serious notice. Beautiful, famous, successful, married — I've had them all, secretly, the world's biggest names..."
​

We also know that Donald began a sexual relationship with his second wife, Marla Maples, while he was still married to his first wife, Ivanka, in the months after she said he raped her.

We also know that Christian evangelists report being "very excited" about Trump's win.

Is this because adultery, affairs and sex outside of marriage are conservative values?

What I find interesting is that you people think you have the moral ground to hold Christians accountable to Christian standards when it is you, Liberals, who have no standards. What you are doing is simply classic Alinsky..........attempt to hold other people to those peoples' standards. We tried your way and it failed. In fact, why don't you ask yourselves as to why you say you are for women, speak out against rape and assault against women, yet multiple women come out with allegations against Bill Clinton, and your knee jerk reaction is to smear and ridicule the women?

 

[SYTFE]

Something I never saw much of over the past year was discussion about Trump's blatant admissions of affairs with married women. I find this interesting, and it makes me wonder -- is adultery a conservative value?

For those who don't know what I'm talking about, here's Trump admitting to affairs in his book, The Art of the Comeback:

"If I told the real stories of my experiences with women, often seemingly very happily married and important women, this book would be a guaranteed best-seller."
​

He also said:

"I have too much respect for women in general, but if I did [write about my love life], the world would take serious notice. Beautiful, famous, successful, married — I've had them all, secretly, the world's biggest names..."
​

We also know that Donald began a sexual relationship with his second wife, Marla Maples, while he was still married to his first wife, Ivanka, in the months after she said he raped her.

We also know that Christian evangelists report being "very excited" about Trump's win.

Is this because adultery, affairs and sex outside of marriage are conservative values?

What I find interesting is that you people think you have the moral ground to hold Christians accountable to Christian standards when it is you, Liberals, who have no standards. What you are doing is simply classic Alinsky..........attempt to hold other people to those peoples' standards. We tried your way and it failed. In fact, why don't you ask yourselves as to why you say you are for women, speak out against rape and assault against women, yet multiple women come out with allegations against Bill Clinton, and your knee jerk reaction is to smear and ridicule the women?

"But but but but but CLINTOOOOONNNN!!!!!!!!"

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Liberals claiming moral superiority.

I'm not a liberal, and this thread isn't about moral superiority. It's about the hypocrisy of saying you have morals and then ignoring it for political reasons.

So you're saying you have no morals?

Nope... never said anything like that. And that isn't what the thread is about. When I do chose who I vote for, I pick the person that best represents me, and that includes their morals. I voted Bernie... and he was the most honest candidate in the election... show me where he cheated on his wife.

Choosing socialism tells me you have no morals, religious or otherwise.

And your post tells me you are a selfish dipshit hypocrite. Then again I really knew that.

You're going to have to explain why I'm selfish because I just dont see it.

 

[Lewdog]

Something I never saw much of over the past year was discussion about Trump's blatant admissions of affairs with married women. I find this interesting, and it makes me wonder -- is adultery a conservative value?

For those who don't know what I'm talking about, here's Trump admitting to affairs in his book, The Art of the Comeback:

"If I told the real stories of my experiences with women, often seemingly very happily married and important women, this book would be a guaranteed best-seller."
​

He also said:

"I have too much respect for women in general, but if I did [write about my love life], the world would take serious notice. Beautiful, famous, successful, married — I've had them all, secretly, the world's biggest names..."
​

We also know that Donald began a sexual relationship with his second wife, Marla Maples, while he was still married to his first wife, Ivanka, in the months after she said he raped her.

We also know that Christian evangelists report being "very excited" about Trump's win.

Is this because adultery, affairs and sex outside of marriage are conservative values?

What I find interesting is that you people think you have the moral ground to hold Christians accountable to Christian standards when it is you, Liberals, who have no standards. What you are doing is simply classic Alinsky..........attempt to hold other people to those peoples' standards. We tried your way and it failed. In fact, why don't you ask yourselves as to why you say you are for women, speak out against rape and assault against women, yet multiple women come out with allegations against Bill Clinton, and your knee jerk reaction is to smear and ridicule the women?

Looks like someone has to hold you to certain standards, because obviously you don't hold each other to your own standards.

 

[LeftofLeft]

Something I never saw much of over the past year was discussion about Trump's blatant admissions of affairs with married women. I find this interesting, and it makes me wonder -- is adultery a conservative value?

For those who don't know what I'm talking about, here's Trump admitting to affairs in his book, The Art of the Comeback:

"If I told the real stories of my experiences with women, often seemingly very happily married and important women, this book would be a guaranteed best-seller."
​

He also said:

"I have too much respect for women in general, but if I did [write about my love life], the world would take serious notice. Beautiful, famous, successful, married — I've had them all, secretly, the world's biggest names..."
​

We also know that Donald began a sexual relationship with his second wife, Marla Maples, while he was still married to his first wife, Ivanka, in the months after she said he raped her.

We also know that Christian evangelists report being "very excited" about Trump's win.

Is this because adultery, affairs and sex outside of marriage are conservative values?

You should have learned this by now, the majority of those that consider themselves religious, are only religious when it is convenient to them. If another religious person is hiring? They are religious. If another religious person is a buyer and they are a seller? They are religious. If the person they favor running for President is a liar, adulterous, person who makes fun of handicap people and talks about sexual assault? They aren't religious as long as that person is a person within their political party.

Just like Liberals who say they are for all women.

 

[TemplarKormac]

You admitted that even though you wouldn't cheat on your hand, you don't care to vote for someone to represent you that is a sinner who would commit things that don't represent your own values.

What? I voted for the guy. But somehow that makes me culpable for supporting adultery. Using guilt by association is dishonest.

Wrong... you voted for him to represent you and your COUNTRY.

And? Does that make me racist, bigoted, or xenophobic too? You can't just sit there and apply Trump's values to the values of his voters because they voted for him. Should I simply define you by who you did or didn't vote for?

 

[EvilCat Breath]

In all seriousness. I don't care. I am not looking at Donald Trump to be my pastor, spiritual advisor or moral compass. I expect him to bring the same kind of drive, experience and ability to running the nation as he did to building an international empire.

Alan Turing cracked the Nazi code. He built the very beginnings of the modern computer. He was a homosexual who treated his wife as a gay beard. He hid behind his marriage while he sucked dick and got fucked in the ass. Yes he was unfaithful to his wife. What kind of moral example did he set? Did his homosexuality affect Steve Jobs or Bill Gates?

Nope, do not care about Trump's infidelity at all.