Senate's latest attempt at a gun control deal falls apart

[basquebromance]

what did you expect from the do-nothing Congress?

Senate's latest attempt at a gun control deal falls apart

But Connecticut Democrat Chris Murphy said he was still hopeful for a compromise with the GOP.

www.politico.com

 

[JackOfNoTrades]

what did you expect from the do-nothing Congress?

Senate's latest attempt at a gun control deal falls apart

But Connecticut Democrat Chris Murphy said he was still hopeful for a compromise with the GOP.

www.politico.com

You mean the do nothing Republicans who are useless and the do nothing moderate Democrats who are too spineless to take a stand.

 

[Sunsettommy]

what did you expect from the do-nothing Congress?

Senate's latest attempt at a gun control deal falls apart

But Connecticut Democrat Chris Murphy said he was still hopeful for a compromise with the GOP.

www.politico.com

You mean the do nothing Republicans who are useless and the do nothing moderate Democrats who are too spineless to take a stand.

How come THOUSANDS of existing Gun control laws are not enough for you?

 

[airplanemechanic]

what did you expect from the do-nothing Congress?

Senate's latest attempt at a gun control deal falls apart

But Connecticut Democrat Chris Murphy said he was still hopeful for a compromise with the GOP.

www.politico.com

You mean the do nothing Republicans who are useless and the do nothing moderate Democrats who are too spineless to take a stand.

Can you tell me what law needs to be written to stop every shooting from now until eternity?

 

[Colin norris]

what did you expect from the do-nothing Congress?

Senate's latest attempt at a gun control deal falls apart

But Connecticut Democrat Chris Murphy said he was still hopeful for a compromise with the GOP.

www.politico.com

It's about the same old chestnut of background checks. They have NOT tried to restrict the purchases as you are suggesting.
In your crusade to ensure your right to weapons comes the addition of nut cases joining your ranks. Mass slaughters are now regarded as collateral damage to preserve the right to include nut cases in the your ranks. It hasn't even dawned in you guys yet that to eliminate idiots with guns would give you cause respectability and demonstrate your concern for the remainder of innocent people who die from guns.
But I don't expect any gun owners to think like that.

 

[JackOfNoTrades]

what did you expect from the do-nothing Congress?

Senate's latest attempt at a gun control deal falls apart

But Connecticut Democrat Chris Murphy said he was still hopeful for a compromise with the GOP.

www.politico.com

You mean the do nothing Republicans who are useless and the do nothing moderate Democrats who are too spineless to take a stand.

How come THOUSANDS of existing Gun control laws are not enough for you?

If there were thousands of gun control laws, there would hardly be any shootings. Because almost no one would be able to own a gun.
Yet, mass shootings still happen frequently. Why? Well, when you have a gun proliferation problem with almost no checks, no national registration
database, and a free flow of guns from gun friendly states into urban areas (which are supposed to be gun free zones), you get chaos.
This has been documented multiple times. All you have to do is search.

 

[Sunsettommy]

what did you expect from the do-nothing Congress?

Senate's latest attempt at a gun control deal falls apart

But Connecticut Democrat Chris Murphy said he was still hopeful for a compromise with the GOP.

www.politico.com

You mean the do nothing Republicans who are useless and the do nothing moderate Democrats who are too spineless to take a stand.

How come THOUSANDS of existing Gun control laws are not enough for you?

If there were thousands of gun control laws, there would hardly be any shootings. Because almost no one would be able to own a gun.
Yet, mass shootings still happen frequently. Why? Well, when you have a gun proliferation problem with almost no checks, no national registration
database, and a free flow of guns from gun friendly states into urban areas (which are supposed to be gun free zones), you get chaos.
This has been documented multiple times. All you have to do is search.

Mass shooting isn't frequent and they are but a small percentage of total gun related deaths.

Gun free zones are stupid since Criminal don't give a shit about them.

Gun Free Zones​

 

[fncceo]

what did you expect from the do-nothing Congress?

A do nothing Congress is my favorite kind.

 

[Flash]

Background checks are as useless as tits on a boar hog in addition to be anti Constitutional.

The checks will never stop a bad guy from getting a firearm to use for a criminal act.

If you have to get permission from the government to enjoy a right guaranteed under the Bill of Rights then the BoRs ain't worth the parchment it is written on.

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

what did you expect from the do-nothing Congress?

Senate's latest attempt at a gun control deal falls apart

But Connecticut Democrat Chris Murphy said he was still hopeful for a compromise with the GOP.

www.politico.com

Do nothing?

They blocked you freaks, didn't they?

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

what did you expect from the do-nothing Congress?

Senate's latest attempt at a gun control deal falls apart

But Connecticut Democrat Chris Murphy said he was still hopeful for a compromise with the GOP.

www.politico.com

It's about the same old chestnut of background checks. They have NOT tried to restrict the purchases as you are suggesting.
In your crusade to ensure your right to weapons comes the addition of nut cases joining your ranks. Mass slaughters are now regarded as collateral damage to preserve the right to include nut cases in the your ranks. It hasn't even dawned in you guys yet that to eliminate idiots with guns would give you cause respectability and demonstrate your concern for the remainder of innocent people who die from guns.
But I don't expect any gun owners to think like that.

Stop being Democrats. Lock the bad guys up permanently, or kill them. Then they can't get guns.

Easy.

 

[Auld Phart]

what did you expect from the do-nothing Congress?

Senate's latest attempt at a gun control deal falls apart

But Connecticut Democrat Chris Murphy said he was still hopeful for a compromise with the GOP.

www.politico.com

It's about the same old chestnut of background checks. They have NOT tried to restrict the purchases as you are suggesting.
In your crusade to ensure your right to weapons comes the addition of nut cases joining your ranks. Mass slaughters are now regarded as collateral damage to preserve the right to include nut cases in the your ranks. It hasn't even dawned in you guys yet that to eliminate idiots with guns would give you cause respectability and demonstrate your concern for the remainder of innocent people who die from guns.
But I don't expect any gun owners to think like that.

It hasn't even dawned in you guys yet that to eliminate idiots with guns would give you cause respectability and demonstrate your concern for the remainder of innocent people who die from guns.

Tell us, Einstein...

How do we keep firearms out of the hands of idiots, without infringing on the rights of non idiots?

 

[AZrailwhale]

It's simple really, just stop trying to regulate the tool used and regulate the criminal. If you are a felon in possession of a firearm of any description (rifle, shotgun, pistol, whatever) ten years in prison, no possibility of parole. Use a gun in a crime (violent or not) thirty years, no parole. Shoot someone in the commission of a crime, life with no parole. Kill someone in a crime, death penalty. Gun violence drops seventy to eighty percent within a couple of years because the criminals who use guns are locked up. Remove the HIPPAA protections that prevent mentally ill people from being added to the "no legal purchase" data base, gun violence drops even more. Prosecute the people who lie on their background check forms and straw purchasers and it drops even more. The laws to do most of this already exist, with the exception of the sentencing ones, they just need mandatory enforcement. No plea bargains for criminals who either posses or use a gun, have or use a gun; go to jail for a long time. Criminals behind bars don't commit crimes.

 

[ClaireH]

what did you expect from the do-nothing Congress?

Senate's latest attempt at a gun control deal falls apart

But Connecticut Democrat Chris Murphy said he was still hopeful for a compromise with the GOP.

www.politico.com

You mean the do nothing Republicans who are useless and the do nothing moderate Democrats who are too spineless to take a stand.

How come THOUSANDS of existing Gun control laws are not enough for you?

If there were thousands of gun control laws, there would hardly be any shootings. Because almost no one would be able to own a gun.
Yet, mass shootings still happen frequently. Why? Well, when you have a gun proliferation problem with almost no checks, no national registration
database, and a free flow of guns from gun friendly states into urban areas (which are supposed to be gun free zones), you get chaos.

"If there were thousands of gun control laws, there would hardly be any shootings. Because almost no one would be able to own a gun." At first glance, this statement appears to be logical. It lacks evidence however. Suicide by guns outweighs homicides in the US significantly, and if we separate those two groups, homicides by guns within the US would be lower as a stated stat. These two are often grouped together to make a point about the need for more gun laws.

Thugs couldn't care less about laws ya know. They'll not be giving up anything under some law saying they need to turn in their guns. When ruthless types know for sure potential victims are without a doubt disarmed, they'll amp up their activity tenfold not stop killing.

 

[52ndStreet]

We do not need Gun control, we need more mental health options, and facilities. We have a lot of mentally ill people who use guns to harm others. That is at the root of these shootings. We are focusing on the wrong issue. The problem is not Guns, but mentally ill people with guns.

 

[Blues Man]

what did you expect from the do-nothing Congress?

Senate's latest attempt at a gun control deal falls apart

But Connecticut Democrat Chris Murphy said he was still hopeful for a compromise with the GOP.

www.politico.com

People are better off when Congress does nothing.

 

[alang1216]

what did you expect from the do-nothing Congress?

Senate's latest attempt at a gun control deal falls apart

But Connecticut Democrat Chris Murphy said he was still hopeful for a compromise with the GOP.

www.politico.com

You mean the do nothing Republicans who are useless and the do nothing moderate Democrats who are too spineless to take a stand.

Can you tell me what law needs to be written to stop every shooting from now until eternity?

There is no 'magic bullet' (get it?), a complex issue requires many different solutions.

 

[Batcat]

Hunter Biden lied on his gun application. CNN;Of course nothing happened. Why bother asking people questions before they buy a firearm and letting them get away with lying?

I understand that in many cities today if you are caught carrying an illegal firearm in public you don’t even have to worry about bail. You just walk away.

Why bother passing new gun control laws when the older ones are not enforced?

Hunter Biden should be charged for lying on his gun application

“Lie and try.” That’s what the feds call cases in which people who are disqualified from owning guns under federal law try to get a gun by concealing the disqualification. It is maddening but true …

nypost.com

Bail reform analysis by Cook County chief judge based on flawed data, undercounts new murder charges

A Tribune investigation has found shortcomings in a report from Chief Judge Timothy Evans that evaluates the impact of bail reform in Cook County criminal courts. The issues minimize the number of defendants charged with new violent crimes after being released from custody.

www.chicagotribune.com

 

[miketx]

The same pos spewing the same bullshit. Eternal.

 

[SavannahMann]

what did you expect from the do-nothing Congress?

Senate's latest attempt at a gun control deal falls apart

But Connecticut Democrat Chris Murphy said he was still hopeful for a compromise with the GOP.

www.politico.com

You mean the do nothing Republicans who are useless and the do nothing moderate Democrats who are too spineless to take a stand.

How come THOUSANDS of existing Gun control laws are not enough for you?

If there were thousands of gun control laws, there would hardly be any shootings. Because almost no one would be able to own a gun.
Yet, mass shootings still happen frequently. Why? Well, when you have a gun proliferation problem with almost no checks, no national registration
database, and a free flow of guns from gun friendly states into urban areas (which are supposed to be gun free zones), you get chaos.
This has been documented multiple times. All you have to do is search.

Actually. There are thousands of laws.

Let’s take a favorite. Columbine. Here is the list of laws violated before the first shot was fired.

Conspiracy. They had to plan the action. Planning a criminal action with at least one other person is Conspiracy to commit that crime. In this case. Murder.

Illegal possession of firearms. The shooters were under 18. By law people under 18 are prohibited from owning or possessing firearms except in very specific circumstances. An example a youth at a gun range with their parent or guardian or under the supervision of a designated adult instructor.

Possession of a firearm on school property. This is another felony. It is illegal for even concealed carry permit holders to enter school properties. Police are the only exception.

We haven’t fired a shot yet in the timeline. Yet we have three felonies and none has prevented the crime.

Laws are used after the event to prosecute the offender. Your car does not shut down if you exceed the speed limit or make an illegal U turn. The laws don’t prevent you from exceeding the speed limit. If you are caught they are used to punish the behavior.

But we are talking about guns. There are hundreds. Thousands of Federal Laws. Describing what a firearm is. How it can be transported. Who can legally own them. How it can be shipped. Who is authorized to receive a shipment. The list goes on and on.

As an example. Let’s say you want to buy an AR-15 over the internet. You order the rifle. You pay for it. And it is shipped out. But it is against the law for you to receive the rifle. By law it must be received by a Federal Firearms Licensed Dealer. If the person shipping the rifle doesn’t send it to one, and he must have confirmation that the person is a FFL dealer, they committed a crime.

Now it is yours. You have purchased it. You go down and it is handed to you no questions asked right? Wrong. By law. Again. The transfer must be checked by the background check system. You have to fill out the transfer form and pass the check. If you are a concealed carry permit holder it is legal in Georgia to use that as a background check.

This is true for any weapon that fires a cartridge. The only exception is black powder firearms that for not use cartridges. In other words muzzle loaders or cap and ball pistols.

So you can have a Kentucky Rifle shipped to your home direct. Or a weapon that would be at home reenacting the civil war battle of your choice.

Laws and regulations are practically endless. And often the experts who enforce the laws are in disagreement over what law applies when.