Sen. Lindsey Graham: "Tea Party Unsustainable"

[JakeStarkey]

Lindsey Graham should retire along with John McCain to a nursing home where they can massage each other.

You do realize that intensely independent, anti-immigration, conservative Arizonians are polling McCain double digits higher than Tea Party wannabe gas bag Hayworth don't you?

Never confuse the far right with objectivity. They resent being continually wrong on these matters.

 

[Cuyo]

And the point of this thread would be? Amnesty graham cannot say what will happen with the tea party. He is incorrect to say they have no direction.

Really? What is their direction? Wave bigger American flags while being politically illiterate?

If you support the current government then you are politically illiterate

I support their efforts, while I would do some things differently.

You can approve of or not approve of the current admin without being completely illiterate. Political competence is not linked inextricably to ones political persuasion, although liberals are consistently proven the more intelligent of the two.

You and your teabagger contemporaries screaming that everything they do is wrong, and everything they didn't do is still their fault, while clearly not understanding what they're doing, is illiterate.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Let's post that again: "You and your teabagger contemporaries screaming that everything they do is wrong, and everything they didn't do is still their fault, while clearly not understanding what they're doing, is illiterate."

Best post of the week.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Really? What is their direction? Wave bigger American flags while being politically illiterate?

If you support the current government then you are politically illiterate

I support their efforts, while I would do some things differently.

You can approve of or not approve of the current admin without being completely illiterate. Political competence is not linked inextricably to ones political persuasion, although liberals are consistently proven the more intelligent of the two.

You and your teabagger contemporaries screaming that everything they do is wrong, and everything they didn't do is still their fault, while clearly not understanding what they're doing, is illiterate.

You need to step back from your holier then thou bullshit you are to incompetent and stupid to see just how wrong you are. If you support anything obama has pushed off on the people of this country you have a very bad problem.

 

[JakeStarkey]

bigrebnc1775's is projecting his inner agony on those with whom he disagrees.

Stop thinking your smarmy comments mean a thing, son, because you are speaking for maybe seven people.

 

[Cuyo]

If you support the current government then you are politically illiterate

I support their efforts, while I would do some things differently.

You can approve of or not approve of the current admin without being completely illiterate. Political competence is not linked inextricably to ones political persuasion, although liberals are consistently proven the more intelligent of the two.

You and your teabagger contemporaries screaming that everything they do is wrong, and everything they didn't do is still their fault, while clearly not understanding what they're doing, is illiterate.

You need to step back from your holier then thou bullshit you are to incompetent and stupid to see just how wrong you are. If you support anything obama has pushed off on the people of this country you have a very bad problem.

OK I did this for Rabbi, now I'll do it for you too. This is not an easy thing for me, and you should really be hearing it from a therapist in the presence of people who love you. But here we go... Deep breath... You're an idiot.

OK you're going to go through what we call the "7 Stages of being an Idiot." The first is denial... Let's see if you've cleared this first hurdle yet... Did you realize that you were an idiot?

 

[bigrebnc1775]

I support their efforts, while I would do some things differently.

You can approve of or not approve of the current admin without being completely illiterate. Political competence is not linked inextricably to ones political persuasion, although liberals are consistently proven the more intelligent of the two.

You and your teabagger contemporaries screaming that everything they do is wrong, and everything they didn't do is still their fault, while clearly not understanding what they're doing, is illiterate.

You need to step back from your holier then thou bullshit you are to incompetent and stupid to see just how wrong you are. If you support anything obama has pushed off on the people of this country you have a very bad problem.

OK I did this for Rabbi, now I'll do it for you too. This is not an easy thing for me, and you should really be hearing it from a therapist in the presence of people who love you. But here we go... Deep breath... You're an idiot.

OK you're going to go through what we call the "7 Stages of being an Idiot." The first is denial... Let's see if you've cleared this first hurdle yet... Did you realize that you were an idiot?

Speak for yourself you need to seek some mental health therapist. Do you realize you are an idiot?

 

[JakeStarkey]

bigrebnc1775 continues to make no sense, and if he is the example of the typical Tea Party member, then his neighbors laugh at him.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

bigrebnc1775 continues to make no sense, and if he is the example of the typical Tea Party member, then his neighbors laugh at him.

Only a simpleton would have a problem understanding what I have to say. But I guess the village always laugh at you. idiot.

 

[JakeStarkey]

bigrebnc1775 continues to make no sense, and if he is the example of the typical Tea Party member, then his neighbors laugh at him.

Only a simpleton would have a problem understanding what I have to say. But I guess the village always laugh at you. idiot.

You are so cute, in your little bad-boy red-rimmed eye way, standing in the corner.

 

[Gadawg73]

CNN Political Ticker: All politics, all the time Blog Archive - TRENDING: Graham: Tea Party ‘unsustainable’ - Blogs from CNN.com

The Tea Party thing is more of an ideology, not something that, if carried out, could realistically govern millions of people.

And the point of this thread would be? Amnesty graham cannot say what will happen with the tea party. He is incorrect to say they have no direction.

Senator Graham sounds like a partisan Democrat doesn't he? The same kind of mantra you hear from the numbnuts and even a few of the more sensible leftists here on USMB. An almost desperate hope that the Tea Partiers aren't for real because they are anathema to lefists and to wishy washy RINOs like Graham.

There have been shining moments for Graham in his long political career and at times I have cheered him on when he has gotten something spot on right.

But he is no conservative as the Tea Partiers define conservative. And I think we can no longer afford to tolerate a Republican Party that is little more than liberal lite. Graham is part of the liberal lite group.

Such an uppidity Repblican Graham is.
He speaks the views of his constituents and gets labeled.
Graham is a real conservative unbossed by the likes of Jerry Falwell, Sean Hannity, Lush Rimbaugh and the religous right.
Get used to it. The fraud side show is over.

 

[Rinata]

Gee, this is impressive. Never thought I'd see him say anything like that.

 

[Foxfyre]

And the point of this thread would be? Amnesty graham cannot say what will happen with the tea party. He is incorrect to say they have no direction.

Senator Graham sounds like a partisan Democrat doesn't he? The same kind of mantra you hear from the numbnuts and even a few of the more sensible leftists here on USMB. An almost desperate hope that the Tea Partiers aren't for real because they are anathema to lefists and to wishy washy RINOs like Graham.

There have been shining moments for Graham in his long political career and at times I have cheered him on when he has gotten something spot on right.

But he is no conservative as the Tea Partiers define conservative. And I think we can no longer afford to tolerate a Republican Party that is little more than liberal lite. Graham is part of the liberal lite group.

Such an uppidity Repblican Graham is.
He speaks the views of his constituents and gets labeled.
Graham is a real conservative unbossed by the likes of Jerry Falwell, Sean Hannity, Lush Rimbaugh and the religous right.
Get used to it. The fraud side show is over.

Real conservatives don't support amnesty with unrestricted benefits for illegals.
Real conservatives don't support an anti-business, freedom diminishing cap & trade bill.
Real conservatives don't go along to get along.
Real conservatives don't hold important legislation hostage in order to oppose other legislation.
Real conservatives do not hold the core principles expressed by Tea Partiers in contempt or fail to understand what the Tea Partiers are all about.

Graham isn't a flaming liberal extremist but he is too often on the left side of issues to be called conservative. He is liberal lite.

And as I keep saying, the fact that he only supports half the liberalism that has diminished our freedoms and prosperity is not particularly commendable, and it is Republicans like him and his ilk that the American conservatives and right leaning moderates rejected in 2006 and 2008.

It isn't good enough to simply not suck as badly as the other side sucks.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Senator Graham is obviously a far better Republican than Foxfyre based on his record. Foxfyre does not define real Republicanism, only her version of what it should be.

 

[bucs90]

"The problem with the Tea Party, I think it's just unsustainable because they can never come up with a coherent vision for governing the country," Graham told the magazine, recounting his private meetings with members of the movement. "It will die out."

CNN Political Ticker: All politics, all the time Blog Archive - TRENDING: Graham: Tea Party ‘unsustainable’ - Blogs from CNN.com

The Tea Party thing is more of an ideology, not something that, if carried out, could realistically govern millions of people.

Hmmmmmmmmmm. Well, lets put Lindsey's ideals to the test, and find out what a "coherent" government would look like:

A) The Tea Party celebrates and yearns for the days of 1776 and what followed in drafting the most brilliant government document of all time, the US Constitution. That document lead to the blooming of the richest and most powerful nation the world has ever known. On those fundamentals of the founding fathers this nation was built.

B) The Lindsey Graham style politicians who've been in power from 1990-2010. Hmmmm. Our government the last 20 years has been very "coherent", hasn't it?


How this douchebag Graham keeps winning here in SC baffles me. In fact, the Charleston local City Paper (google it) ran a bit in which Graham was asked by a reported why he pulled back is support for climate change legislation. His answer was "It was a business deal for me, but the people I was cooperating with were religious about climate change".

Bingo. The far left folks he allied with, albeit wrong imo, truly, deeply believed in that cause. Graham? He supported it because it was a good business deal. Probably invested in some green stuff, and voted accordingly.

Yeah, thats it Lindsey, very "coherent" way to govern dipshit.

BTW, Lindsey Grahamnesty is one of the many examples I use when I say liberalism comes in all forms, even with a big red "R" next to it. This clown needs to be voted out of office in SC.

 

[Gadawg73]

Senator Graham sounds like a partisan Democrat doesn't he? The same kind of mantra you hear from the numbnuts and even a few of the more sensible leftists here on USMB. An almost desperate hope that the Tea Partiers aren't for real because they are anathema to lefists and to wishy washy RINOs like Graham.

There have been shining moments for Graham in his long political career and at times I have cheered him on when he has gotten something spot on right.

But he is no conservative as the Tea Partiers define conservative. And I think we can no longer afford to tolerate a Republican Party that is little more than liberal lite. Graham is part of the liberal lite group.

Such an uppidity Repblican Graham is.
He speaks the views of his constituents and gets labeled.
Graham is a real conservative unbossed by the likes of Jerry Falwell, Sean Hannity, Lush Rimbaugh and the religous right.
Get used to it. The fraud side show is over.

Real conservatives don't support amnesty with unrestricted benefits for illegals.
Real conservatives don't support an anti-business, freedom diminishing cap & trade bill.
Real conservatives don't go along to get along.
Real conservatives don't hold important legislation hostage in order to oppose other legislation.
Real conservatives do not hold the core principles expressed by Tea Partiers in contempt or fail to understand what the Tea Partiers are all about.

Graham isn't a flaming liberal extremist but he is too often on the left side of issues to be called conservative. He is liberal lite.

And as I keep saying, the fact that he only supports half the liberalism that has diminished our freedoms and prosperity is not particularly commendable, and it is Republicans like him and his ilk that the American conservatives and right leaning moderates rejected in 2006 and 2008.

It isn't good enough to simply not suck as badly as the other side sucks.

I will start with one issue at a time you have brought up:
Do you even know what the amnesty proposal was that Graham supported and Tea Partiers oppose Fox?
Are you knowledgeable to the realities of the issue of immigration?
Do you know that the amnesty proposals were a bi-partisan bill proposed and supported by conservative Republicans in the Bush era and administration?
Tea partiers oppose amnesty. Do you side with them?
Amnesty allows a path to citizenship to those that have been here and have established families here in America.
Are you sure you want to side with Tea Partiers that fully support the deportation of the adults that are not citizens and leave school age children, that ARE legal citizens, here to fend for themselves without their parents?
Many of us seek a humane answer to the immigration issue. Tea Partiers do not. We seek your support. Being a conservative does not mean you seperate children that are US citizens of illegal immigrants frrom their parents.
Fox, you look like a thinking man. The Tea Party movement puts mouth in motion before brain in gear. Either you are with them or you think and come up with rational legislation and oppose their sophomoric approach.
Next issue tomorrow.

 

[Foxfyre]

Such an uppidity Repblican Graham is.
He speaks the views of his constituents and gets labeled.
Graham is a real conservative unbossed by the likes of Jerry Falwell, Sean Hannity, Lush Rimbaugh and the religous right.
Get used to it. The fraud side show is over.

Real conservatives don't support amnesty with unrestricted benefits for illegals.
Real conservatives don't support an anti-business, freedom diminishing cap & trade bill.
Real conservatives don't go along to get along.
Real conservatives don't hold important legislation hostage in order to oppose other legislation.
Real conservatives do not hold the core principles expressed by Tea Partiers in contempt or fail to understand what the Tea Partiers are all about.

Graham isn't a flaming liberal extremist but he is too often on the left side of issues to be called conservative. He is liberal lite.

And as I keep saying, the fact that he only supports half the liberalism that has diminished our freedoms and prosperity is not particularly commendable, and it is Republicans like him and his ilk that the American conservatives and right leaning moderates rejected in 2006 and 2008.

It isn't good enough to simply not suck as badly as the other side sucks.

I will start with one issue at a time you have brought up:
Do you even know what the amnesty proposal was that Graham supported and Tea Partiers oppose Fox?
Are you knowledgeable to the realities of the issue of immigration?
Do you know that the amnesty proposals were a bi-partisan bill proposed and supported by conservative Republicans in the Bush era and administration?
Tea partiers oppose amnesty. Do you side with them?
Amnesty allows a path tocitizenship to those that have been here and haveestablished families here in America.
Are you sure you want to side with Tea Partiers that fully support thye deportationof the adults that are not citizens and leave school age children, that ARE legal citizens, here to fend with themselves without their parents?
Many of us seek a humane answer to the immigration issue. Tea Partiers do not. We seek your support. Being a conservative does not mean you seperate children that are US citizens of illegal immigrants frrom their parents.
Fox, you look like a thinking man. The Tea Party movement puts mouth in motion before brain in gear. Either you are with them or you think and come up with rational legislation and oppose their sopomoric approach.
Next issue tomorrow.

We can't catch all the speeders and sometimes radar guns malfunction, so lets don't enforce speed limits. We can't catch all the bank robbers, so lets don't even try to stop them. We can't catch all the welfare cheats so lets just let people take whatever they want from the public treasury.

I do not support amnesty for 12 to 20 thousand people who are breaking our laws just because it is 'difficult' to enforce those laws. Neither do the Tea Partiers. Once that concept is established, then you figure out what else needs to be addressed. You don't pick out the most difficult things and say some things are hard, therefore we can't do anything.

And you don't zero in on a few hardship cases and say oh well, we can't deal with that so just give amnesty to everybody, let them bring all their other relatives in, and we'll just take care of every poor or disadvantaged person that wants to come here. Never mind who gets hurt or what damage it does to the economy or the culture. If Gadawg feels noble giving away other people's money to whomever, that makes it all worth it.

 

[Intense]

And the point of this thread would be? Amnesty graham cannot say what will happen with the tea party. He is incorrect to say they have no direction.

Senator Graham sounds like a partisan Democrat doesn't he? The same kind of mantra you hear from the numbnuts and even a few of the more sensible leftists here on USMB. An almost desperate hope that the Tea Partiers aren't for real because they are anathema to lefists and to wishy washy RINOs like Graham.

There have been shining moments for Graham in his long political career and at times I have cheered him on when he has gotten something spot on right.

But he is no conservative as the Tea Partiers define conservative. And I think we can no longer afford to tolerate a Republican Party that is little more than liberal lite. Graham is part of the liberal lite group.

Such an uppidity Repblican Graham is.
He speaks the views of his constituents and gets labeled.
Graham is a real conservative unbossed by the likes of Jerry Falwell, Sean Hannity, Lush Rimbaugh and the religous right.
Get used to it. The fraud side show is over.

Graham give good time fo 5 dollah!!!!

The first man in history to bring knee pads and fruit flavored condoms into battle. Please don't use Conservative and Graham in the same sentence again.

 

[JimH52]

bigrebnc1775 continues to make no sense, and if he is the example of the typical Tea Party member, then his neighbors laugh at him.

Only a simpleton would have a problem understanding what I have to say. But I guess the village always laugh at you. idiot.

You know, you really shouldn't take yourself so seriously, NO ONE ELSE DOES!

 

[Zona]

"The problem with the Tea Party, I think it's just unsustainable because they can never come up with a coherent vision for governing the country," Graham told the magazine, recounting his private meetings with members of the movement. "It will die out."

CNN Political Ticker: All politics, all the time Blog Archive - TRENDING: Graham: Tea Party ‘unsustainable’ - Blogs from CNN.com

The Tea Party thing is more of an ideology, not something that, if carried out, could realistically govern millions of people.

But this Dick Armey backed movement was so grass roots.....