Self-Proclaimed "Obamacare" Protester, Katy Abram, Found To Be A Bloody Liar

[Kevin_Kennedy]

That's part of why there is so much anger now. All these people coming out to town hall meetings were likely a part of the tea parties and heard the nonsense they were being called. "Tea baggers" and "astro-turf" may tend to upset some people.

Stop being so dishonest Kevin, you know full-well that "Tea-Baggers" was the term that they, unwittingly and ignorantly, gave themselves. Too bad for them, it stuck. Dems and Liberals took that and ran with it.

No, I'm pretty sure the term "tea-bagger" came from MSNBC.

 

[xsited1]

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She claimed that due to Obama turning her country into Russia, it has caused "the sleeping [political] giant" in her to awaken to all things politics...she lied...she has been an active member and leader of Glenn Beck's 9-12 group.

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If she were a politician, she could simply say that athough she had an interest in politics since at least 2006, it wasn't until Obama proposed his healthcare initiative that the 'sleeping politic giant' in her was awakened to all things politics.

 

[Ravi]

Is she the one that claimed Obama would ration toilet paper?

Of course she's full of shit.

 

[Vast LWC]

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She claimed that due to Obama turning her country into Russia, it has caused "the sleeping [political] giant" in her to awaken to all things politics...she lied...she has been an active member and leader of Glenn Beck's 9-12 group.

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If she were a politician, she could simply say that athough she had an interest in politics since at least 2006, it wasn't until Obama proposed his healthcare initiative that the 'sleeping politic giant' in her was awakened to all things politics.

And then she would debate what the meaning of "is" is, right?

This woman is a proven liar, and her example makes it clear that: contrary to what right-wingers are claiming, this is not some sort of voluntary upswelling of ordinary people, but a focused effort led and organized by political hacks, and fed by the right-wing media.

Excellent thread.

 

[Vast LWC]

that doesnt prove shit and you know it

Oh, and DiveCon, you really need to learn that saying "No it doesn't" isn't an effective argument.

 

[Vast LWC]

No, I'm pretty sure the term "tea-bagger" came from MSNBC.

Actually I thought this at first too, but then a "tea-bagger" friend of mine corrected me.

It developed through the "tea-bagging" motions and suggestions many of them made at various protests...

Sort of a way of saying they were "tea-bagging" president Obama.

Comes from a habit that online gamers have of "tea-bagging" their opponents after a victory.

 

[geauxtohell]

I watched her on the Chris Matthews show and it was pretty obvious she was making shit up. The stand-in for Matthews knew it too, but he didn't press her too hard since she was an amature.

She's a private citizen so, big whoop.

 

[geauxtohell]

I know you are allergic to facts DiveCon, but one day soon the hard truth will smack you dead in the jaw and you'll finally wake up from your Wonderland slumber.

What is untrue here?

How can one "demonize" a liar?

Remember what the old folks said, "A liar is a thief, and a thief is a murderer."

it doesnt matter if it is true
someone cant be truely opposed to this AND be in the 9-12 group?
that is a strawman

It does matter Dive when you consider that Abrams claimed she was apolitical until the healthcare issue.

She is obviously a partisan, and has been since (at least) 2006. That's fine and her right, but why did she need to lie?

It's because she was trying to portray herself as "middle of the road" when she is not.

 

[Kevin_Kennedy]

No, I'm pretty sure the term "tea-bagger" came from MSNBC.

Actually I thought this at first too, but then a "tea-bagger" friend of mine corrected me.

It developed through the "tea-bagging" motions and suggestions many of them made at various protests...

Sort of a way of saying they were "tea-bagging" president Obama.

Comes from a habit that online gamers have of "tea-bagging" their opponents after a victory.

So you're claiming that these people refer to themselves as "tea-baggers?"

 

[geauxtohell]

MarcATL, lets just say Katy has been actively involved in political issues since 2006. Big fuking deal! We are talking only 3 years! Katy is only 35 years old and a mother of I don't know how many children. She is looking at her familys' future and doesn't like the direction our Country is going. I believe her statement in that a sleeping giant has been awaken in her personal view is not a lie. You are calling Katy a liar and an activist because she got so pissed off, she finally decided to take action. I know I just didn't wake up one day and decide I was going to write my Congressman. First you have to become educated on the issues. Then you get upset enough that you start writing letters to your elected representatives. Then you see your letters mean absolutely nothing. Then if you have the opportunity you may attend town hall meetings and speak out. So Marc, does that make one an activist? Better yet does posting on this message board, make us unorganized activists? And I'm curious Marc, what would you call Obama's organized army?

That's all good and fine, but for the fact that Abrams claimed she was apolitical until the healthcare debate.

That's what makes her a liar. She has a right (obviously) to join any group and voice any opinion she wants.

We have a right to point out that she's a liar.

See how that works?

 

[driveby]

Yep, thanks to the good work of at least one patriotic Democrat who just hated to see such a liar and hood-winker tear the country down with such vicious lies and rhetoric, did some Googling and, low and behold, some revealing facts were discovered.

She claimed that due to Obama turning her country into Russia, it has caused "the sleeping [political] giant" in her to awaken to all things politics...she lied...she has been an active member and leader of Glenn Beck's 9-12 group.

Behold.

Another Astro-Turfer bites the dust...well before her 2 minutes of fame were up.

 

[geauxtohell]

For those of you who aren't getting what we are talking about, here is the interview. The stand-in nails her at around 4:20.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzCoPh8DZ7M]YouTube - Hardball-Specter Town Hall guest Katy Abram not political until "Obama Socialism" appeared[/ame]

 

[xsited1]

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She claimed that due to Obama turning her country into Russia, it has caused "the sleeping [political] giant" in her to awaken to all things politics...she lied...she has been an active member and leader of Glenn Beck's 9-12 group.

...

If she were a politician, she could simply say that athough she had an interest in politics since at least 2006, it wasn't until Obama proposed his healthcare initiative that the 'sleeping politic giant' in her was awakened to all things politics.

And then she would debate what the meaning of "is" is, right?

This woman is a proven liar, and her example makes it clear that: contrary to what right-wingers are claiming, this is not some sort of voluntary upswelling of ordinary people, but a focused effort led and organized by political hacks, and fed by the right-wing media.

Excellent thread.

She distorts the truth like a Clinton. Good observation.

 

[driveby]

For those of you who aren't getting what we are talking about, here is the interview. The stand-in nails her at around 4:20.

YouTube - Hardball-Specter Town Hall guest Katy Abram not political until "Obama Socialism" appeared

After watching that "interview" it's Katy Abram's credibilty that's questionable ? ......

 

[geauxtohell]

For those of you who aren't getting what we are talking about, here is the interview. The stand-in nails her at around 4:20.

YouTube - Hardball-Specter Town Hall guest Katy Abram not political until "Obama Socialism" appeared

After watching that "interview" it's Katy Abram's credibilty that's questionable ? ......

Only because she lied. Other than that, she's a normal person.

 

[Vast LWC]

No, I'm pretty sure the term "tea-bagger" came from MSNBC.

Actually I thought this at first too, but then a "tea-bagger" friend of mine corrected me.

It developed through the "tea-bagging" motions and suggestions many of them made at various protests...

Sort of a way of saying they were "tea-bagging" president Obama.

Comes from a habit that online gamers have of "tea-bagging" their opponents after a victory.

So you're claiming that these people refer to themselves as "tea-baggers?"

Some of them did, apparently, yes. As I stated, that's what I was told, by a "tea-bagger".

You really have to understand this facet of serious video-gamers to understand why.

 

[BolshevikHunter]

For those of you who aren't getting what we are talking about, here is the interview. The stand-in nails her at around 4:20.

YouTube - Hardball-Specter Town Hall guest Katy Abram not political until "Obama Socialism" appeared

After watching that "interview" it's Katy Abram's credibilty that's questionable ? ......

Only because she lied. Other than that, she's a normal person.

Got it wrong again dipshit. ~BH

 

[Vast LWC]

If she were a politician, she could simply say that athough she had an interest in politics since at least 2006, it wasn't until Obama proposed his healthcare initiative that the 'sleeping politic giant' in her was awakened to all things politics.

And then she would debate what the meaning of "is" is, right?

This woman is a proven liar, and her example makes it clear that: contrary to what right-wingers are claiming, this is not some sort of voluntary upswelling of ordinary people, but a focused effort led and organized by political hacks, and fed by the right-wing media.

Excellent thread.

She distorts the truth like a Clinton. Good observation.

Hey, I never said Bill Clinton didn't distort the truth. Personally I voted for Ross Perot.

 

[geauxtohell]

After watching that "interview" it's Katy Abram's credibilty that's questionable ? ......

Only because she lied. Other than that, she's a normal person.

Got it wrong again dipshit. ~BH

Sure, bag.

All because you say so.

 

[Vast LWC]

Wow...

"I wasn't involved in politics", "I didn't watch the news really", "I wasn't really interested in politics up until now"...

This woman lied in this interview dozens of times.