Secret Service Driver Says Cassidy Hutchinson Lied and Trump Did Not Grab for Steering Wheel in Limo on J6

[Marener]

So, obviously why we don’t accept hearsay in trials…But for you, you’ll believe anything…

Hearsay is good enough when it’s accusations against democrats for you.

What isn’t debated is that Trump was fully intent on going to the Capitol that day, which speaks to his ill intent.

 

[SeaMajor7]

Hearsay is good enough when it’s accusations against democrats for you.

What isn’t debated is that Trump was fully intent on going to the Capitol that day, which speaks to his ill intent.

What the FUCK is this? A declaration by YOU about what's NOT debatable?
Who the FUCK are YOU to determine what Trump was "fully intent" on???
That's just YOU reenforcing you NARRATIVE.
Cool story, brah!

 

[surada]

Who said Ornato told her a story?

Did Ornato say that?

Ornato resigned.

 

[surada]

So, obviously why we don’t accept hearsay in trials…But for you, you’ll believe anything…

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[surada]

So, obviously why we don’t accept hearsay in trials…But for you, you’ll believe anything…

You don't know the rules on hearsay.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

The best thing Hutchinson can do is say the truth. Liz Cheney coached her to perjure herself in order to get the sensational story about Trump grabbing for the steering wheel, which is ridiculous on its face because the prez is seated four feet back in the passenger cabin. If there was any back-talk all Trump would have to say is "Mister I am giving you a direct order." All these guys are military veterans and would never dare defy an order directly from the President of the United States.

It's Hutchie's best bet because either she or Liz Cheney are going to jail. Cheney brought down would be a huge step forward for the country because she is part of the Deep State cabal through her father 9/11, Iraq War mastermind Dick Cheney, as evil a man as ever walked the Earth.

Let's see if Cassidy meets up with a tree stepping in front of her car one dark night in a mysterious one-car accident.

House GOP report debunks ex-Trump aide Cassidy Hutchinsonâs testimony on ex-prez trying to wrangle SUV to Jan. 6 panelÂ

A Republican-led House committee on Monday released a report debunking claims by ex-Trump aide Cassidy Hutchinson that the former president attempted to commandeer a Secret Service SUV on Jan. 6, 2…

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"Hutchinson, who at the time was an aide to former White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows, testified to the select committee that she was told Trump had shouted: “I’m the f—ing president! Take me up to the Capitol now!” before he tried to grab the steering wheel from the driver in a desperate effort to join his supporters marching towards the Capitol.

Loudermilk’s report notes that Hutchinson’s testimony was “directly refuted” by White House Deputy Chief of Staff for Operations Anthony Ornato – the man who according to Hutchinson, told her the anecdote – and the Secret Service agent driving the SUV.

“Ornato testified that the first time he had ever heard the story Hutchinson claims Ornato told her on January 6, was during Hutchinson’s public testimony,” the oversight subcommittee report states.

“Hutchinson’s testimony was also contradicted by the [Secret Service] agent who was with President Trump on January 6,” the subcommittee found, which notes that “Hutchinson’s accusation came up only after the Secret Service agent’s attorney proactively brought up the subject” to select committee investigators. "
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Lying to Congress is a crime, what about lying from Congress

 

[surada]

The best thing Hutchinson can do is say the truth. Liz Cheney coached her to perjure herself in order to get the sensational story about Trump grabbing for the steering wheel, which is ridiculous on its face because the prez is seated four feet back in the passenger cabin. If there was any back-talk all Trump would have to say is "Mister I am giving you a direct order." All these guys are military veterans and would never dare defy an order directly from the President of the United States.

It's Hutchie's best bet because either she or Liz Cheney are going to jail. Cheney brought down would be a huge step forward for the country because she is part of the Deep State cabal through her father 9/11, Iraq War mastermind Dick Cheney, as evil a man as ever walked the Earth.

Let's see if Cassidy meets up with a tree stepping in front of her car one dark night in a mysterious one-car accident.

House GOP report debunks ex-Trump aide Cassidy Hutchinsonâs testimony on ex-prez trying to wrangle SUV to Jan. 6 panelÂ

A Republican-led House committee on Monday released a report debunking claims by ex-Trump aide Cassidy Hutchinson that the former president attempted to commandeer a Secret Service SUV on Jan. 6, 2…

nypost.com

"Hutchinson, who at the time was an aide to former White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows, testified to the select committee that she was told Trump had shouted: “I’m the f—ing president! Take me up to the Capitol now!” before he tried to grab the steering wheel from the driver in a desperate effort to join his supporters marching towards the Capitol.

Loudermilk’s report notes that Hutchinson’s testimony was “directly refuted” by White House Deputy Chief of Staff for Operations Anthony Ornato – the man who according to Hutchinson, told her the anecdote – and the Secret Service agent driving the SUV.

“Ornato testified that the first time he had ever heard the story Hutchinson claims Ornato told her on January 6, was during Hutchinson’s public testimony,” the oversight subcommittee report states.

“Hutchinson’s testimony was also contradicted by the [Secret Service] agent who was with President Trump on January 6,” the subcommittee found, which notes that “Hutchinson’s accusation came up only after the Secret Service agent’s attorney proactively brought up the subject” to select committee investigators. "
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Hutchinson wasn't there. She was told the story by Tony Ornato who was....and it's not hearsay if Ornato can be brought to court.

 

[surada]

Hearsay is good enough when it’s accusations against democrats for you.

What isn’t debated is that Trump was fully intent on going to the Capitol that day, which speaks to his ill intent.

Hearsay is an out-of-court statement offered to prove the truth of whatever it asserts, which is then offered in evidence to prove the truth of the matter. The problem with hearsay is that when the person being quoted is not present, it becomes impossible to establish credibility.
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[Care4all]

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It was the SUV, not the Limo....

 

[surada]

It was the SUV, not the Limo....

Cassidy Hutchinson wasn't there.

hearsay

www.law.cornell.edu

 

[Care4all]

You can't accuse her of lying under oath, when she was repeating a story she was told....

 

[Care4all]

Cassidy Hutchinson wasn't there.

hearsay

www.law.cornell.edu

Yep, I know!

 

[SeaMajor7]

It's amazing that you demented zombies are holding on to this completely ridiculous story.
Do any of you think for a second that this is really helping you?
Do any of you have a modicum of self-awareness?

 

[Care4all]

It's amazing that you demented zombies are holding on to this completely ridiculous story.
Do any of you think for a second that this is really helping you?
Do any of you have a modicum of self-awareness?

We are not holding on to the whole story....we are simply saying that she simply repeated a story she was told, inaccurate or not.... We knew two years ago that the part she was told about grabbing the steering wheel was inaccurate.

 

[SeaMajor7]

We are not holding on to the whole story....we are simply saying that she simply repeated a story she was told, inaccurate or not.... We knew two years ago that the part she was told about grabbing the steering wheel was inaccurate.

That makes sense.........in the Twilight Zone.

 

[surada]

It's amazing that you demented zombies are holding on to this completely ridiculous story.
Do any of you think for a second that this is really helping you?
Do any of you have a modicum of self-awareness?

See the rules of hearsay. She's fine. They'll just bring Tony Oranato to court.

 

[Chillicothe]

Let's see if Cassidy meets up with a tree stepping in front of her car one dark night in a mysterious one-car accident.

Spit it out, poster Munkle.
Just exactly what are you alleging?
If you are hinting that she will be assassinated by either NeverTrumpers or by MAGA/QAnon......well, say it then.
Cowboy up, and talk straight.

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she was told which should have never been admitted as evidence she would be on trial for felony perjury...

Ummm, poster Rambunctious your partisan-slip is showing. "Admitted as evidence"?? Look, my friend, this was a 'hearing'......it was not a trial.

Cassidy, a well vetted, Republican political worker-bee, who had worked for Ted Cruz an Steve Scalise, did such sterling work it brought her to the attention of the White House and the Chief of Staff's insistence she work for him.
That doesn't at all sound like an unstable unreliable employee who isn't supporting Administration goals. You don't move up, even by admirable merit....if you are disloyal.
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. anyone who believed this lie should never be allowed to vote ever again....

What was the lie she told?
Or retold?
Was it Ornato's?
And was Hutchinson careful and precise in describing that she was TOLD the tale by Ornato?
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Having watched Biden for decades I suspect he is even using death threats. Hunter has professional killers among his crowd so it fits

QAnon still lurks in the USMB digital Twilight Zone.
The above comment is silly conspiracy nonsense. Another break from reality that we can see somewhat regularly from RWNJ/QAnon/MAGA fangurls......and fanboys, on this venue. IMHO
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Correct, makes you wonder why they wouldn't want to put the testimony of the folks actually there on prime television, instead of people just repeating rumors.....

Well, they did want to do that. Made attepts to do that. But the two agents wouldn't testify under oath. At the time, they claimed some kind of 'Secret Service' policy so to protect the confidentiality of those they guard.
Thus, the Committee felt that if there were no consequences if they lied.....then they may very well lie to cover up the 'tall-tale' they had relayed to impress a young and pretty staffer.
Plus Ornato was widely viewed as a Trump uber-loyalist.

The Committee felt that once they were under oath they would more likely be truthful, as they had some skin in the game....like their careers. But they refused to speak 'under-oath'.
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she retold a lie she knew was untrue to harm Trump... she should be charged with treason....

Poster Rambuncitous, you are hyper-ventilating.
Do you know what "Treason" is?
Do you know you are using the term wrongly?
Learn it.
Google is your friend.
And try to be a more accurate and reliable poster.
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This is a non-story about a very, very tiny part of her testimony.

Indeed, it is M'58. A distraction. The alleged 'tussling-with-POTUS' is small potatoes compared to the meat of the issue ---- the attempted theft of an American election for President.

Hutchinson's testimony was a minor part of the several hearings the Committee held. To be sure, it was sensational. She was attractive, humble, careful, credible, and in a position to know. And not unimportantly, she was under oath. But some of her testimony....e.g., the SUV-Lunge, was hearsay, as Hutchinson carefully and precisely articulated it as such in front of the cameras so we all could watch as it happened.

The bigger picture is that Don Trump and a circle of enablers tried to steal the 2020 Election. Don Trump knew he lost. Multiple people in a position to know and who testified under oath that they had informed him of that. Some have said Trump himself acknowledged that he had lost.

Yet, he, and Eastman, and Giuiliani, and Cheseboro, and Jordan, and Perry, and multiple others continued the attempt at stealing the election.

America needs the trial prosecuted by Jack Smith to lay out all the facts of that attempted theft. To be sure, the J6 Committee has already done a careful and pretty thorough job of informing us (*see their full report linked below). But a court of law is where it now needs to be. Where everybody is under oath. THAT is how we will know as much as can be known. And that is where justice can and should be delivered.



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Select January 6th Committee Final Report and Supporting Materials Collection

www.govinfo.gov

 

[SeaMajor7]

See the rules of hearsay. She's fine. They'll just bring Tony Oranato to court.

I'll take that as a "no".
Go get em', tiger.

 

[SeaMajor7]

Spit it out, poster Munkle.
Just exactly what are you alleging?
If you are hinting that she will be assassinated by either NeverTrumpers or by MAGA/QAnon......well, say it then.
Cowboy up, and talk straight.

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Ummm, poster Rambunctious your partisan-slip is showing. "Admitted as evidence"?? Look, my friend, this was a 'hearing'......it was not a trial.

Cassidy, a well vetted, Republican political worker-bee, who had worked for Ted Cruz an Steve Scalise, did such sterling work it brought her to the attention of the White House and the Chief of Staff's insistence she work for him.
That doesn't at all sound like an unstable unreliable employee who isn't supporting Administration goals. You don't move up, even by admirable merit....if you are disloyal.
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What was the lie she told?
Or retold?
Was it Ornato's?
And was Hutchinson careful and precise in describing that she was TOLD the tale by Ornato?
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QAnon still lurks in the USMB digital Twilight Zone.
The above comment is silly conspiracy nonsense. Another break from reality that we can see somewhat regularly from RWNJ/QAnon/MAGA fangurls......and fanboys, on this venue. IMHO
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Well, they did want to do that. Made attepts to do that. But the two agents wouldn't testify under oath. At the time, they claimed some kind of 'Secret Service' policy so to protect the confidentiality of those they guard.
Thus, the Committee felt that if there were no consequences if they lied.....then they may very well lie to cover up the 'tall-tale' they had relayed to impress a young and pretty staffer.
Plus Ornato was widely viewed as a Trump uber-loyalist.

The Committee felt that once they were under oath they would more likely be truthful, as they had some skin in the game....like their careers. But they refused to speak 'under-oath'.
-------------------------------------------------------

Poster Rambuncitous, you are hyper-ventilating.
Do you know what "Treason" is?
Do you know you are using the term wrongly?
Learn it.
Google is your friend.
And try to be a more accurate and reliable poster.
----------------------------------------------------


Indeed, it is M'58. A distraction. The alleged 'tussling-with-POTUS' is small potatoes compared to the meat of the issue ---- the attempted theft of an American election for President.

Hutchinson's testimony was a minor part of the several hearings the Committee held. To be sure, it was sensational. She was attractive, humble, careful, credible, and in a position to know. And not unimportantly, she was under oath. But some of her testimony....e.g., the SUV-Lunge, was hearsay, as Hutchinson carefully and precisely articulated it as such in front of the cameras so we all could watch as it happened.

The bigger picture is that Don Trump and a circle of enablers tried to steal the 2020 Election. Don Trump knew he lost. Multiple people in a position to know and who testified under oath that they had informed him of that. Some have said Trump himself acknowledged that he had lost.

Yet, he, and Eastman, and Giuiliani, and Cheseboro, and Jordan, and Perry, and multiple others continued the attempt at stealing the election.

America needs the trial prosecuted by Jack Smith to lay out all the facts of that attempted theft. To be sure, the J6 Committee has already done a careful and pretty thorough job of informing us (*see their full report linked below). But a court of law is where it now needs to be. Where everybody is under oath. THAT is how we will know as much as can be known. And that is where justice can and should be delivered.



*

Select January 6th Committee Final Report and Supporting Materials Collection

www.govinfo.gov

 

[surada]

I'll take that as a "no".
Go get em', tiger.

Lol. Read the rules of hearsay.