Seattle judge rules that firearms deals should pay for crimes committed with weapons they sold

[Rustic]

Good call, finally a judge with good sense...

Let all the Mayonnaise monkeys in the South open Carry,, and when folks get shot and killed that will be fine , I love guns as long as inbred Rednecks keep whacking each other..

Yes...this stupid point was brought up everytime a state wanted to pass concealed carry........that just putting on a gun would turn the owner crazy and every little traffic fender bender would be a shootout......

You are wrong....more than 13 million Americans carry guns for self defense now and even more own guns...and our gun murder rate went down, not up....every single time......

Hate to burst your bubble dude.

The murder rates with a gun started to decline AFTER the Brady Law with those backgroud checks was implemented.

BBBBBuuuuuutttttttttt.........you said armed mercians brought down the gun violence rate.

Maybe those restrictions on gun availability do work.
And maybe a few Americans stopped shootings with their gun by shooting someone.

The background check law has been more effective though.

Enforce the current laws, no new laws are needed. It's a fairytale to think these stupid in the head laws are nothing more than retardation of control freaks....

Better you post a single sentence ad hominem, such as "I hate gun grabbers"; anything more adds nothing more to your emotional rant.

No, it's 100% childish emotion to think more laws will do anything more than take freedoms away, gun ownership is a constitutional right.

 

[Rustic]

Seattle judge rules that firearms deals should pay for crimes committed with weapons they sold

good luck with that

Remington is STILL dodging wrongful death suits because their 700 had a shitty safety that killed or injured dozens of people who bought their crappy gun.

Having a gun company pay for a crime ain't gonna happen.

Emotional silliness on your part, shit happens.
Drunk driving is the most preventable crime on the planet, I don't see you bleeding hearts trying to take away alcohol??
Take your bleeding heart and shoot it, it's worthless and weak...

 

[Siete]

Seattle judge rules that firearms deals should pay for crimes committed with weapons they sold

good luck with that

Remington is STILL dodging wrongful death suits because their 700 had a shitty safety that killed or injured dozens of people who bought their crappy gun.

Having a gun company pay for a crime ain't gonna happen.

Emotional silliness on your part, shit happens.
Drunk driving is the most preventable crime on the planet, I don't see you bleeding hearts trying to take away alcohol??
Take your bleeding heart and shoot it, it's worthless and weak...

emotional my gun owning ass ... apparently you're not familiar with the history of the 700 ... you and your ignorance are excused ... dumbass.

 

[Wry Catcher]

The first of many examples which the gun fraternity has yet to comprehend. People are fed up with gun violence and as long as the gun industry fails to police itself more laws will be passed in an effort to raise revenue.

Understand that every person shot receives an immediate response by the local LE Agency, the Fire Department and EMT's, the nearest hospital for surveyors and the coroner's office when their are deaths.

Then the agency in charge of investigating the shooting will interview witnesses, collect evidence and prepare reports for the prosecutor; who will then assign the case to a deputy prosecutor and an investigator for follow up.

Then there are court costs for arraignment, pre trail conferences, a preliminary hearing, and upon being held to answer the costs to the local taxpayer begin to spiral up as other agencies - the SO and the Jail, Probation, Public Defender and or appointed private council, the Health Dept. the Victim Witness Department and other specialties provide by law or necessity.

Why shouldn't a gun buyer pay a tax when so much local money is expended when guns are misused? Drivers and car owners pay taxes for roads, stop sighs, signals and signs as well as traffic divisions.

Are you stupid??
Hell no, gun ownership is a right... Car ownership is not...
Dumba$$

Better. still a bit long for an emotion driven ad hominem.

Both rights and privileges carry with them responsibilities. It's all about personal responsibility. Don't you believe in personal responsibility?

 

[Siete]

Seattle judge rules that firearms deals should pay for crimes committed with weapons they sold

good luck with that

Remington is STILL dodging wrongful death suits because their 700 had a shitty safety that killed or injured dozens of people who bought their crappy gun.

Having a gun company pay for a crime ain't gonna happen.

Emotional silliness on your part, shit happens.
Drunk driving is the most preventable crime on the planet, I don't see you bleeding hearts trying to take away alcohol??
Take your bleeding heart and shoot it, it's worthless and weak...

pretend you're in deer camp, pretend you never touch the trigger and you kill your kid, or buddy ..




now pretend you're not an idiot.

 

[Rustic]

Seattle judge rules that firearms deals should pay for crimes committed with weapons they sold

good luck with that

Remington is STILL dodging wrongful death suits because their 700 had a shitty safety that killed or injured dozens of people who bought their crappy gun.

Having a gun company pay for a crime ain't gonna happen.

Emotional silliness on your part, shit happens.
Drunk driving is the most preventable crime on the planet, I don't see you bleeding hearts trying to take away alcohol??
Take your bleeding heart and shoot it, it's worthless and weak...

emotional my gun owning ass ... apparently you're not familiar with the history of the 700 ... you and your ignorance are excused ... dumbass.

I know all about it, it's the best selling bolt action rifle of all time.
Your emotions have you deflecting... Grow up

 

[Rustic]

The first of many examples which the gun fraternity has yet to comprehend. People are fed up with gun violence and as long as the gun industry fails to police itself more laws will be passed in an effort to raise revenue.

Understand that every person shot receives an immediate response by the local LE Agency, the Fire Department and EMT's, the nearest hospital for surveyors and the coroner's office when their are deaths.

Then the agency in charge of investigating the shooting will interview witnesses, collect evidence and prepare reports for the prosecutor; who will then assign the case to a deputy prosecutor and an investigator for follow up.

Then there are court costs for arraignment, pre trail conferences, a preliminary hearing, and upon being held to answer the costs to the local taxpayer begin to spiral up as other agencies - the SO and the Jail, Probation, Public Defender and or appointed private council, the Health Dept. the Victim Witness Department and other specialties provide by law or necessity.

Why shouldn't a gun buyer pay a tax when so much local money is expended when guns are misused? Drivers and car owners pay taxes for roads, stop sighs, signals and signs as well as traffic divisions.

Are you stupid??
Hell no, gun ownership is a right... Car ownership is not...
Dumba$$

Better. still a bit long for an emotion driven ad hominem.

Both rights and privileges carry with them responsibilities. It's all about personal responsibility. Don't you believe in personal responsibility?

Ya, the criminals are responsible... Everything else is "shit happens"
I don't see you ranting about drunk driving??dumba$$

 

[2aguy]

The first of many examples which the gun fraternity has yet to comprehend. People are fed up with gun violence and as long as the gun industry fails to police itself more laws will be passed in an effort to raise revenue.

Understand that every person shot receives an immediate response by the local LE Agency, the Fire Department and EMT's, the nearest hospital for surveyors and the coroner's office when their are deaths.

Then the agency in charge of investigating the shooting will interview witnesses, collect evidence and prepare reports for the prosecutor; who will then assign the case to a deputy prosecutor and an investigator for follow up.

Then there are court costs for arraignment, pre trail conferences, a preliminary hearing, and upon being held to answer the costs to the local taxpayer begin to spiral up as other agencies - the SO and the Jail, Probation, Public Defender and or appointed private council, the Health Dept. the Victim Witness Department and other specialties provide by law or necessity.

Why shouldn't a gun buyer pay a tax when so much local money is expended when guns are misused? Drivers and car owners pay taxes for roads, stop sighs, signals and signs as well as traffic divisions.

Why shouldn't a gun buyer pay a tax when so much local money is expended when guns are misused?

Because they didn't misuse the gun.....they didn't shoot anyone, they didn't commit a robbery they didn't commit a rape or a murder with the gun....

That is what you call an innocent person.....

We have laws for people who break the law and use guns to commit those crimes.....you punish the person who actually committed the offense, you don't punish the people who had nothing to do with the offense.

Drivers and car owners pay taxes for roads, stop sighs, signals and signs as well as traffic divisions

As do gun owners when they own a car........

but you don't charge a fine to the driver who didn't run the red light do you? You don't penalize the driver who doesn't drive drunk...do you........

 

[Rustic]

Seattle judge rules that firearms deals should pay for crimes committed with weapons they sold

good luck with that

Remington is STILL dodging wrongful death suits because their 700 had a shitty safety that killed or injured dozens of people who bought their crappy gun.

Having a gun company pay for a crime ain't gonna happen.

Emotional silliness on your part, shit happens.
Drunk driving is the most preventable crime on the planet, I don't see you bleeding hearts trying to take away alcohol??
Take your bleeding heart and shoot it, it's worthless and weak...

pretend you're in deer camp, pretend you never touch the trigger and you kill your kid, or buddy ..




now pretend you're not an idiot.

No longer a problem... Next

 

[Wry Catcher]

Good call, finally a judge with good sense...

Let all the Mayonnaise monkeys in the South open Carry,, and when folks get shot and killed that will be fine , I love guns as long as inbred Rednecks keep whacking each other..

Yes...this stupid point was brought up everytime a state wanted to pass concealed carry........that just putting on a gun would turn the owner crazy and every little traffic fender bender would be a shootout......

You are wrong....more than 13 million Americans carry guns for self defense now and even more own guns...and our gun murder rate went down, not up....every single time......

Hate to burst your bubble dude.

The murder rates with a gun started to decline AFTER the Brady Law with those backgroud checks was implemented.

BBBBBuuuuuutttttttttt.........you said armed mercians brought down the gun violence rate.

Maybe those restrictions on gun availability do work.
And maybe a few Americans stopped shootings with their gun by shooting someone.

The background check law has been more effective though.

Enforce the current laws, no new laws are needed. It's a fairytale to think these stupid in the head laws are nothing more than retardation of control freaks....

Better you post a single sentence ad hominem, such as "I hate gun grabbers"; anything more adds nothing more to your emotional rant.

No, it's 100% childish emotion to think more laws will do anything more than take freedoms away, gun ownership is a constitutional right.

Your right to own a gun can be taken away...


[The Gun Control Act of 1968 prohibits certain people from possessing a firearm. The possession of any firearm by one of these "prohibited persons" is a felony offense. It is also a felony for any person, including a registered Federal Firearms Licensee to sell or otherwise transfer any firearm to a person knowing or having "reasonable cause" to believe that the person receiving the firearm is prohibited from firearm possession. There are nine categories of persons prohibited from possessing firearms under the Gun Control Act:

• Persons under indictment for, or convicted of, any crime punishable by imprisonment for a term exceeding on year;
• Fugitives from justice;
• Persons who are unlawful users of, or addicted to, any controlled substance;
• Persons who have been declared by a court as mental defectives or have been committed to a mental institution;
• Illegal aliens, or aliens who were admitted to the United States under a nonimmigrant visa;
• Persons who have been dishonorably discharged from the Armed Forces;
• Persons who have renounced their United States citizenship;
• Persons subject to certain types of restraining orders; and
• Persons who have been convicted of a misdemeanor crime of domestic violence.]

...so stop lying. And if you sell, give. loan or otherwise provide a gun to any of those noted in the bullet points above, you too will lose your right to own, possess or ever again have a gun under your custody and control.

 

[2aguy]

The first of many examples which the gun fraternity has yet to comprehend. People are fed up with gun violence and as long as the gun industry fails to police itself more laws will be passed in an effort to raise revenue.

Understand that every person shot receives an immediate response by the local LE Agency, the Fire Department and EMT's, the nearest hospital for surveyors and the coroner's office when their are deaths.

Then the agency in charge of investigating the shooting will interview witnesses, collect evidence and prepare reports for the prosecutor; who will then assign the case to a deputy prosecutor and an investigator for follow up.

Then there are court costs for arraignment, pre trail conferences, a preliminary hearing, and upon being held to answer the costs to the local taxpayer begin to spiral up as other agencies - the SO and the Jail, Probation, Public Defender and or appointed private council, the Health Dept. the Victim Witness Department and other specialties provide by law or necessity.

Why shouldn't a gun buyer pay a tax when so much local money is expended when guns are misused? Drivers and car owners pay taxes for roads, stop sighs, signals and signs as well as traffic divisions.

People are fed up with gun violence and as long as the gun industry fails to police itself more laws will be passed in an effort to raise revenue.

You aren't payiing attention.....polls now show that Americans have wised up to your antics....they no longer support more gun control laws, they do not think that disarming law abiding people makes them safer and they do not support banning AR-15s that commit fewer crimes than knives, blunt objects and bare hands do........

 

[Siete]

Seattle judge rules that firearms deals should pay for crimes committed with weapons they sold

good luck with that

Remington is STILL dodging wrongful death suits because their 700 had a shitty safety that killed or injured dozens of people who bought their crappy gun.

Having a gun company pay for a crime ain't gonna happen.

Emotional silliness on your part, shit happens.
Drunk driving is the most preventable crime on the planet, I don't see you bleeding hearts trying to take away alcohol??
Take your bleeding heart and shoot it, it's worthless and weak...

emotional my gun owning ass ... apparently you're not familiar with the history of the 700 ... you and your ignorance are excused ... dumbass.

I know all about it, it's the best selling bolt action rifle of all time.
Your emotions have you deflecting... Grow up

I own 2 Pre 64 Winchester 70's ... 1 .270 - 1 .300 Win Mag.

Police forces all across the country took your " best all time seller" out of service.

sooo you own time bombs, not me.

 

[Rustic]

Yes...this stupid point was brought up everytime a state wanted to pass concealed carry........that just putting on a gun would turn the owner crazy and every little traffic fender bender would be a shootout......

You are wrong....more than 13 million Americans carry guns for self defense now and even more own guns...and our gun murder rate went down, not up....every single time......

Hate to burst your bubble dude.

The murder rates with a gun started to decline AFTER the Brady Law with those backgroud checks was implemented.

BBBBBuuuuuutttttttttt.........you said armed mercians brought down the gun violence rate.

Maybe those restrictions on gun availability do work.
And maybe a few Americans stopped shootings with their gun by shooting someone.

The background check law has been more effective though.

Enforce the current laws, no new laws are needed. It's a fairytale to think these stupid in the head laws are nothing more than retardation of control freaks....

Better you post a single sentence ad hominem, such as "I hate gun grabbers"; anything more adds nothing more to your emotional rant.

No, it's 100% childish emotion to think more laws will do anything more than take freedoms away, gun ownership is a constitutional right.

Your right to own a gun can be taken away...


[The Gun Control Act of 1968 prohibits certain people from possessing a firearm. The possession of any firearm by one of these "prohibited persons" is a felony offense. It is also a felony for any person, including a registered Federal Firearms Licensee to sell or otherwise transfer any firearm to a person knowing or having "reasonable cause" to believe that the person receiving the firearm is prohibited from firearm possession. There are nine categories of persons prohibited from possessing firearms under the Gun Control Act:

• Persons under indictment for, or convicted of, any crime punishable by imprisonment for a term exceeding on year;
• Fugitives from justice;
• Persons who are unlawful users of, or addicted to, any controlled substance;
• Persons who have been declared by a court as mental defectives or have been committed to a mental institution;
• Illegal aliens, or aliens who were admitted to the United States under a nonimmigrant visa;
• Persons who have been dishonorably discharged from the Armed Forces;
• Persons who have renounced their United States citizenship;
• Persons subject to certain types of restraining orders; and
• Persons who have been convicted of a misdemeanor crime of domestic violence.]

...so stop lying. And if you sell, give. loan or otherwise provide a gun to any of those noted in the bullet points above, you too will lose your right to own, possess or ever again have a gun under your custody and control.

Of course, but your deflections are weak...

 

[2aguy]

The first of many examples which the gun fraternity has yet to comprehend. People are fed up with gun violence and as long as the gun industry fails to police itself more laws will be passed in an effort to raise revenue.

Understand that every person shot receives an immediate response by the local LE Agency, the Fire Department and EMT's, the nearest hospital for surveyors and the coroner's office when their are deaths.

Then the agency in charge of investigating the shooting will interview witnesses, collect evidence and prepare reports for the prosecutor; who will then assign the case to a deputy prosecutor and an investigator for follow up.

Then there are court costs for arraignment, pre trail conferences, a preliminary hearing, and upon being held to answer the costs to the local taxpayer begin to spiral up as other agencies - the SO and the Jail, Probation, Public Defender and or appointed private council, the Health Dept. the Victim Witness Department and other specialties provide by law or necessity.

Why shouldn't a gun buyer pay a tax when so much local money is expended when guns are misused? Drivers and car owners pay taxes for roads, stop sighs, signals and signs as well as traffic divisions.

Are you stupid??
Hell no, gun ownership is a right... Car ownership is not...
Dumba$$

Better. still a bit long for an emotion driven ad hominem.

Both rights and privileges carry with them responsibilities. It's all about personal responsibility. Don't you believe in personal responsibility?

Yes...personal responsibility....but that is not what you advocate here......you want people who have committed no crime, injured no person and obeyed all laws to pay for the irresponsible behavior of other people....

You don't care about personal responsibility....otherwise you would be punishing the criminals and focusing your efforts on them...instead....you want to punish the real sinners....the normal people who own guns.

 

[Rustic]

Seattle judge rules that firearms deals should pay for crimes committed with weapons they sold

good luck with that

Remington is STILL dodging wrongful death suits because their 700 had a shitty safety that killed or injured dozens of people who bought their crappy gun.

Having a gun company pay for a crime ain't gonna happen.

Emotional silliness on your part, shit happens.
Drunk driving is the most preventable crime on the planet, I don't see you bleeding hearts trying to take away alcohol??
Take your bleeding heart and shoot it, it's worthless and weak...

emotional my gun owning ass ... apparently you're not familiar with the history of the 700 ... you and your ignorance are excused ... dumbass.

I know all about it, it's the best selling bolt action rifle of all time.
Your emotions have you deflecting... Grow up

I own 2 Pre 64 Winchester 70's ... 1 .270 - 1 .300 Win Mag.

Police forces all across the country took your " best all time seller" out of service.

sooo you own time bombs, not me.

I personally don't like the 700 and don't own one, but they are perfectly safe and if anyone wants to buy one they can.
Find a more up-to-date issue for your Deflection if you would please...

 

[Siete]

Hate to burst your bubble dude.

The murder rates with a gun started to decline AFTER the Brady Law with those backgroud checks was implemented.

BBBBBuuuuuutttttttttt.........you said armed mercians brought down the gun violence rate.

Maybe those restrictions on gun availability do work.
And maybe a few Americans stopped shootings with their gun by shooting someone.

The background check law has been more effective though.

Enforce the current laws, no new laws are needed. It's a fairytale to think these stupid in the head laws are nothing more than retardation of control freaks....

Better you post a single sentence ad hominem, such as "I hate gun grabbers"; anything more adds nothing more to your emotional rant.

No, it's 100% childish emotion to think more laws will do anything more than take freedoms away, gun ownership is a constitutional right.

Your right to own a gun can be taken away...


[The Gun Control Act of 1968 prohibits certain people from possessing a firearm. The possession of any firearm by one of these "prohibited persons" is a felony offense. It is also a felony for any person, including a registered Federal Firearms Licensee to sell or otherwise transfer any firearm to a person knowing or having "reasonable cause" to believe that the person receiving the firearm is prohibited from firearm possession. There are nine categories of persons prohibited from possessing firearms under the Gun Control Act:

• Persons under indictment for, or convicted of, any crime punishable by imprisonment for a term exceeding on year;
• Fugitives from justice;
• Persons who are unlawful users of, or addicted to, any controlled substance;
• Persons who have been declared by a court as mental defectives or have been committed to a mental institution;
• Illegal aliens, or aliens who were admitted to the United States under a nonimmigrant visa;
• Persons who have been dishonorably discharged from the Armed Forces;
• Persons who have renounced their United States citizenship;
• Persons subject to certain types of restraining orders; and
• Persons who have been convicted of a misdemeanor crime of domestic violence.]

...so stop lying. And if you sell, give. loan or otherwise provide a gun to any of those noted in the bullet points above, you too will lose your right to own, possess or ever again have a gun under your custody and control.

Of course, but your deflections are weak...

have someone call me when you two figure this one out ...

lol

 

[Siete]

Seattle judge rules that firearms deals should pay for crimes committed with weapons they sold

good luck with that

Remington is STILL dodging wrongful death suits because their 700 had a shitty safety that killed or injured dozens of people who bought their crappy gun.

Having a gun company pay for a crime ain't gonna happen.

Emotional silliness on your part, shit happens.
Drunk driving is the most preventable crime on the planet, I don't see you bleeding hearts trying to take away alcohol??
Take your bleeding heart and shoot it, it's worthless and weak...

emotional my gun owning ass ... apparently you're not familiar with the history of the 700 ... you and your ignorance are excused ... dumbass.

I know all about it, it's the best selling bolt action rifle of all time.
Your emotions have you deflecting... Grow up

I own 2 Pre 64 Winchester 70's ... 1 .270 - 1 .300 Win Mag.

Police forces all across the country took your " best all time seller" out of service.

sooo you own time bombs, not me.

I personally don't like the 700 and don't own one, but they are perfectly safe and if anyone wants to buy one they can.
Find a more up-to-date issue for your Deflection if you would please...

now that there was a recall they're safe, before not so much.

 

[candycorn]

It has everything to do with them. Normal people don't think that way.

Even normal lawyers dont think that way. There is no other area where legal responsibility is imposed like that.

Sure it is; if you serve a drunk customer at the bar, the bar can be held liable.

Can Your Bartender Be Arrested for Your DUI? | DrivingLaws.org

Yes they can because the server knew well ahead of time that they were contributing to a potential deadly situation. How about if we hold the convenience store or grocery store liable if a person buys alcohol and gets drunk on it a week later and runs somebody over in their car?

Don't b

I don't think it's that sinister. I think the judge is just underdeveloped mentally like all the other liberals. They blame the gun so the person that sold it is evil and should pay. Any firearm dealer in Seattle these days gets what they deserve.

Every time a dealer sells a firearm to a guy, they must first call the Fed Govt who does a background check (NICS check). The govt issues a "Yes" or "No" on whether the guy is allowed to buy a gun.

So, shouldn't the Fed govt be as liable as the dealer was? If not more so?

Perhaps I missed it.

Where was the call to the Federal Government made during these purchases?

First this dumba$$ in the video calls magazines clips(that means he's uneducated) second he's talking about the exception not the rule, most tables in these gun shows require an ID check/background check.
Your whining over spilt milk...

So the guy illegally selling and the host (High Caliber or Saxet) can be sued. Cool

There is no gun show "loophole".... Shit happens.
You and the a$$hole who made the video are barking up the wrong tree...

We just saw evidence that the gun show loophole exists big time

 

[Wry Catcher]

Everyone who wants to drive a car has to fill out an application, pay for a test and a license. They have not broken a law.

Anyone who buys a car, pays a sales tax, pays a fee for a license and pays a fee for registration. They have not broken a law.

 

[2aguy]

Even normal lawyers dont think that way. There is no other area where legal responsibility is imposed like that.

Sure it is; if you serve a drunk customer at the bar, the bar can be held liable.

Can Your Bartender Be Arrested for Your DUI? | DrivingLaws.org

Yes they can because the server knew well ahead of time that they were contributing to a potential deadly situation. How about if we hold the convenience store or grocery store liable if a person buys alcohol and gets drunk on it a week later and runs somebody over in their car?

Don't b

Every time a dealer sells a firearm to a guy, they must first call the Fed Govt who does a background check (NICS check). The govt issues a "Yes" or "No" on whether the guy is allowed to buy a gun.

So, shouldn't the Fed govt be as liable as the dealer was? If not more so?

Perhaps I missed it.

Where was the call to the Federal Government made during these purchases?

First this dumba$$ in the video calls magazines clips(that means he's uneducated) second he's talking about the exception not the rule, most tables in these gun shows require an ID check/background check.
Your whining over spilt milk...

So the guy illegally selling and the host (High Caliber or Saxet) can be sued. Cool

There is no gun show "loophole".... Shit happens.
You and the a$$hole who made the video are barking up the wrong tree...

We just saw evidence that the gun show loophole exists big time

You are wrong...as always...

7 Gun Control Myths That Just Won't Die

Nine Myths About Gun Control

1) The ‘Gun Show Loophole’ Allows Anyone, Even Criminals, To Get Guns

In reality, the so-called “gun show loophole” is a myth. It does not exist. There is no loophole in federal law that specifically exempts gun show transactions from any other laws normally applied to gun sales. Not one.

If you purchase a firearm from a federal firearms licensee (FFL) regardless of the location of the transaction — a gun store, a gun show, a gun dealer’s car trunk, etc. — that FFL must confirm that you are legally allowed to purchase that gun. That means the FFL must either run a background check on you via the federal NICS database, or confirm that you have passed a background check by examining your state-issued concealed carry permit or your government-issued purchase permit. There are zero exceptions to this federal requirement.

If an individual purchases a gun across state lines — from an individual or FFL which resides in a different state than the buyer — the buyer must undergo a background check, and the sale must be processed by an FFL in the buyer’s home state.



What does exist, however, is a federal exemption for sales between two private, non-FFL residents of the same state, regardless of whether that transaction happens at a gun show or not.

The identity of the parties involved in the transaction, not the venue of the sale, is what matters under federal law.

This federal exemption makes perfect sense: there’s no federal nexus for a purely private transaction between two private individuals who reside in the same state. Many states, including Oregon,Colorado, and Illinois, have enacted universal background checks in order to eliminate the exemption for same-state private firearms transactions.

Federal universal background checks may or may not be a wise idea — the U.S. Senate in 2013 explicitly refused to enact them — but referring to the federal exemption for private, same-state sales as a “gun show loophole” is misleading and factually inaccurate.