Sean Penn on Charley Kirk and the health care CEO who was shot

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Sean Penn Says Charlie Kirk Assassination Was ‘Different’ From Health Insurance CEO, Others: ‘We Need That Debate’

The shooting death of Charlie Kirk was "different" than that of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson and of Minnesota House of Representatives Speaker Emerita Melissa Hortman and her husband, Sean Penn...

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As we all know, Sean is far left of the political spectrum, and as such, had nothing in common with Charlie Kirk.

Though Penn also said he didn’t follow Kirk’s work, he said he suspected the conservative podcaster was “one of these people who certainly I disagree with on almost everything.”

“I didn’t get the sense that he was one of these snake oil salesmen. I think we need that guy. We need that debate,” he continued. “We’ve gotta fight it out and find a compromise. These things do come into fashion, and the way we kill the fashion of it is people of conscience on both sides recognizing that if somebody really believes something, that’s your friend.”

But Sean said something even more profound.

After Penn was asked whether his answer depends on what someone believes, he clarified: “ I’m not talking about some sociopathic Nazism. I’m talking about if somebody believes that a human being starts at conception, if you can’t understand that concept, you’re just stupid. And if you’re not willing to tolerate the concept as a concept that’s held as deeply as I may have a belief that, I don’t know, let the woman decide. All of these are valid opinions. What’s the consensus in society, civilly? This murderer who shot the insurance executive? I’m no fan of health insurance companies, but Jesus, man, is that the best argument you got?”

So, this is the issue. When someone reaches the sociopathic form of Nazism, debate ends. But who determines this? Maybe after murdering some 6 million Jews? I think that would be a good place to start. I think we can all agree that the only way to deal with the actual Nazi regime was to hang them from an end of a rope after their reign of terror. But the shooter viewed Charlie as a Nazi, convinced by the media and the DNC, but how many people did Charlie and Trump murder?

In fact, how many here think Charlie was a Nazi like the shooter?

And I keep finding threads on here saying ICE is the Gestapo.

So long as this continues, people will die and debate is stopped.

It is so bad that people can't even mention Charlies name at work or online in fear of the "crazies" who go ape shit crazy on them.

As for the health care CEO, I'm sure Sean Penn thinks that that shooting was completely unrelated to the shooting of Charlie, but that simply is not the case. The shooter of the CEO was fed up with corporations running health care policies and wanted government run health care no doubt. But did the shooter know that the government turns more people down for health care related requests than private companies?

Probably not.

Again, this is the fault of the Left-wing media that is inciting these loons to violence, and all based upon pure ignorance and baseless lies. such as Charlie being a Nazi.

Always blame. the other party, because Only your party has perfect people. Get real.

 

[Frankenstein]

Bravo, so you agree........NOTHING.

It was a start of civil debate on college campus, it was cancelling the indoctrination from the left, and the killed him for it, you sick twisted little Ghoul!

 

[Frankenstein]

I can tell you lack any knowledge of what exactly rhetorical propaganda is...

Rhetorical propaganda involves using persuasive communication to promote a specific viewpoint, often through biased or misleading information to achieve a particular agenda or ideology. While propaganda uses rhetoric, it differs by manipulating people into thinking a certain way rather than encouraging thoughtful consideration.

I can tell you will find any reasoning for murder of a peaceful man, get bent! Shame on you!

 

[Votto]

This political spectrum scale is a prime example of propaganda.

If true, what is the scale measuring here?

Is it really measuring freedom and slavery?

Anarchists own a lot of slaves do they?



I think this the best political scale I have seen.

Although, I would argue that Anarchists belong with the other side of the spectrum because the end result of anarchists having there was always devolves into the despotism of either fascism or communism.

I also don't buy into the notion that just being a Republican or democrat makes you a Nazi or communist as the spectrum above implies.

This is the sort of propaganda crap we deal with every day, so it is no wonder people are shooting at each other.

 

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This political spectrum scale is a prime example of propaganda.

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If true, what is the scale measuring here?

Is it really measuring freedom and slavery?

Anarchists own a lot of slaves do they?



I think this the best political scale I have seen.

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Although, I would argue that Anarchists belong with the other side of the spectrum because the end result of anarchists having there was always devolves into the despotism of either fascism or communism.

Thinking out side the box we paint our self's into.
Not easy. But maybe necessary for a healthier America.

 

[Winco]

It was a start of civil debate on college campus, it was cancelling the indoctrination from the left, and the killed him for it, you sick twisted little Ghoul!

College Debate........ that's the great Accomplishment.

What a Low Bar.

 

[marvin martian]

I've accomplished PLENTY.
You will just deny it, so FO loser.

So, once again, what did CK accomplish.

Please marvin martian , make a list of his accomplishments.

Most recently, Charlie Kirk created a massive national movement towards conservatism.

He also very likely delivered President Trump his historic 2024 election victory.

He also inspired an entire generation of young people to value debate and free speech, adopt conservative constitutional principles, and respect the civil rights of others.

He also raised a family. At least until he was murdered by a piece of shit Nazi.

You haven't done shit.

 

[Moonglow]

I can tell you will find any reasoning for murder of a peaceful man, get bent! Shame on you!

I can tell yer abnormally upset.

 

[Darkwind]

What did CK accomplish?

What have you?

Is that how you value free speech? Tell Me, who determines what is a valuable accomplishment?

Certainly never left. The left has no moral ground to stand on.

 

[Darkwind]

College Debate........ that's the great Accomplishment.

What a Low Bar.

So, to you going into the den of snakes, bent on harming you, and getting people to listen and reevaluate their beliefs is not an accomplishment?

What is the name of the multi-billion-dollar company you started?

 

[Blaster]

Charlie Kirk died a hero to millions of folks young and old.

 

[marvin martian]

Charlie Kirk died a hero to millions of folks young and old.

And in his wake, a million more Charlie Kirks were created.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

Most recently, Charlie Kirk created a massive national movement towards conservatism.

He also very likely delivered President Trump his historic 2024 election victory.

He also inspired an entire generation of young people to value debate and free speech, adopt conservative constitutional principles, and respect the civil rights of others.

He also raised a family. At least until he was murdered by a piece of shit Nazi.

You haven't done shit.

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Charlie also very literally yanked many young people's souls out of the grasp of the devil.

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[Votto]

Bibi himself was not the shooter. He was the puppet master, but not the shooter.

Are you suggesting Bibi cannot walk and chew gum at the same time?

Sounds pretty antisemitic to me.

 

[Votto]

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Charlie also very literally yanked many young people's souls out of the grasp of the devil.

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Here is the deal, so long as Charlie does not go round murdering people and championing people who do, he is free to enter his ideas and arguments into the political spectrum. And those that do go round murdering people, LIKE NAZIS!!! should be shouted down and arrested. May the best man win.

It's called democracy, but the Left hates that.

 

[Votto]

I can tell you lack any knowledge of what exactly rhetorical propaganda is...

Rhetorical propaganda involves using persuasive communication to promote a specific viewpoint, often through biased or misleading information to achieve a particular agenda or ideology. While propaganda uses rhetoric, it differs by manipulating people into thinking a certain way rather than encouraging thoughtful consideration.

You are just pissed Charlie was good at presenting his ideas.

You are even more pissed you have no ability to counter them.

That then only leaves you with beliefs and feelings about things to cling too.

Just know that.

 

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You are just pissed Charlie was good at presenting his ideas.

You are even more pissed you have no ability to counter them.

That then only leaves you with beliefs and feelings about things to cling too.

Just know that.

 

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So wrong that we kill people in our frustration.
Half the supporters if honest Never went to hear him speak on a college campus.
& the other half did not even know who he was.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

So wrong that we kill people in our frustration.
Half the supporters if honest Never went to hear him speak on a college campus.
& the other half did not even know who he was.

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Your opinion.





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[Frankenstein]

College Debate........ that's the great Accomplishment.

What a Low Bar.

Gets kids thinking outside the left wing indoctrination station hive mind, dangerous for lefties for sure!